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FlyingForFun
9th Sep 2002, 13:45
It's taken me a long time to pluck up the courage to make this post. I think I was scared of publicly admitting that I screwed up. But now my screw-up has been resolved, I feel like I can talk about it. We don't have time to make every mistake ourselves, we have to learn from other peoples' mistakes if we're going to stay safe. So I hope that someone out there learns from my mistake. Please bear with me - it's a long story, but there is a point to it.

Earlier this year, when I bought a share in my Europa, I had around 200 hours total time, around 100 hours of which was on tail-draggers. I got my initial tail-dragger check-out at my home club - it was quick and basic, but it got me flying. Shortly after that, I went to America, where I learnt to fly tail-draggers properly, with some of the best instructors in the world, IMHO. They taught me to fast-taxi and to do wheel-landings, they showed me that it's not necessary to fly a Super Cub like an airliner, that this type of aircraft actually likes you to use full aileron, and they corrected a couple of bad habits that I'd got into, the most noticeable one of which was keeping the tail on the ground too long during take-off, which resulted in the aircraft trying to get off the ground before it had enough airspeed. By the time I was signed off to solo the club's Super Cubs, I believed (and I still do believe) that I'd had the best training in tail-dragger flying that it's possible to get. I logged about another 80 hours of tail-dragger flying, 70 of which was in the Super Cub, before I came back to England and bought my Europa share.

Common sense and my insurance company required that I get some training on the Europa. The rest of my group recommended an instructor who had checked all of them out on the aircraft, and also did the initial test-flight of the aircraft after the building was complete. So, together with another new member of the group, we met our instructor at White Waltham early one morning. The other guy I was training with didn't have any tail-dragger experience, so our instructor gave us a detailed ground-school in the difference between tricycles and tail-draggers (mainly for the other guy's benefit), as well the differences between Europa mono-wheels and other tail-draggers, for both of our benefits, before we went flying.

The Europa is a little strange. The mono-wheel itself really isn't that much of a problem - it's a little more unstable on the ground than a Super Cub, but no big deal. However, describing the suspension as "basic" would be doing it too much justice - the design principle was to build a retractible gear system, and make it as light as possible, and that means there really isn't any suspension at all. Because of that, the Europa really notices any bumps at all when it's on the ground, even at a fairly slow taxi speed. During take-off and landing, bumps on the runway will throw the aircraft around, and there's nothing you can do about it. The other interesting thing is the lack of prop clearance, especially when you have a larger propellor fitted, as we have on ours. The combination of these two points means that, unlike the Super Cub, you need to keep the tail-wheel on the ground as much as possible in the Europa, to avoid letting the propellor get too close to the ground, and to provide a little extra stability over the bumps.

Still, with my tail-wheel experience, it only took an hour or two before the instructor was ready to sign me off for solo flight - which he was very pleased with, because it gave him more time to spend with the other guy I was training with. I was also pretty pleased with my fast progress, because it meant I was signed off in good time to go to the PPRuNe fly-in at Popham in June!

The fly-in came and went, and I flew on few other occassions as well. But the weather through most of June and the first part of July was pretty bad, and I always seemed to be busy on the days when the weather was good. Then came my ATPL exams, and I knew I had to fly before the exams if I was going to stay current. I hadn't flown for 5 weeks (the group has a currency rule of 6 weeks, but even so that was longer than I'd ever gone without flying since I started my PPL training), and I'd only logged 10 hours on type, which was pretty poor considering one of the reasons I bought a share was so I could log more time.

I booked the aircraft for a Saturday, and arranged to meet a friend at a small private airfield near Banbury. But, on the day, the weather wasn't really suitable to be flying cross-country. Besides which, some circuits would probably do me some good since I hadn't flown for so long.

I took off, and the aeroplane veered over to the left hand side of the runway. I was rusty, and it was showing. I flew a below-average circuit, but made it onto final, flared, and managed a pretty good landing. I was pleased with myself - I added power, and headed off again. Although my landings were generally good, my take-offs continued to be poor. But, over the course of an hour or so, I gradually improved, until eventually I was happy with my overall performance, and happy that I'd decided to do some circuits in order to work out the rust.

Circuits in any aircraft never get boring, but especially so in the Europa. But, after an hour, I was considering landing for some lunch, and to see if the weather was going to improve enough for me to get away from the airfield in the afternoon. Just one more circuit, I decided. So, after the next landing, I added power again, and the engine was buzzing away nicely (while most aircraft engines roar, Rotax engines only manage a feeble buzz). I lifted the tail. Then I hit a small bump. The engine note dropped momentarilly, and then I was off the ground. I set the correct attitude, pulled the power back to max continuous, retracted the gear, and then started wondering why the engine note had dropped. Then it hit me - I must have had a prop strike.

I flew a pretty nice circuit, lined up on final, and managed another good landing, then I taxied off the runway. There is no time for emotion when you're in the circuit, and it was only now that I was able to wonder about the possible prop strike. I half-hoped that I was wrong, that there was some other explaination, but I knew that wasn't possible. I parked the aircraft and stopped the engine, and immediately I could see a huge gash in the tip of one of the propellor blades. My heart sank. I was totally gutted. I couldn't find the energy to move for several minutes, while I got over the shock of what had happened.

Eventually, I got out of the aircraft, and inspected the damage. All 3 blades were damaged, one worse than the others. As I wondered back to the club house, I passed my old PPL instructor. She saw I didn't look happy, and asked me what the problem was. She was very sympathetic - "it could happen to anyone, it's not your fault, I've flown with you enough to know you're a good pilot so don't let it bother you." But the words didn't help, I still wanted to find a corner to curl up in and hide away from the world.

I phoned the coordinator of our group, who was also one of the two guys who built the aircraft, and he came down to inspect the aircraft. He gave me the same sympathetic lines, "it could have happened to any of us, runways here are bumpy and the Europa's no good on bumps, don't let it bother you." As he inspected the broken prop, he commented "Hmm, so the blades are made of carbon fibre, I never realised that!" A true engineer, I thought, and it made me smile!

I took me a day or two before I got over the shock. Even then, I was happy to let the other members of the group sort everything out. The propellor was removed and sent back to the factory in France. An engine specialist was called in to inspect the crankshaft and gearbox. The rest of the group were superb - not once did one of them complain or moan, at least not to my face, which was great, because they'd been inconvenienced as much as I had by the grounding of our 'plane. We took the opportunity to do a 50-hour inspection which was due in a couple of hours time anyway. And before the aircraft was serviceable again, the annual inspection and permit renewal became due. So, all in all, it was several weeks before everything was back in one piece and ready to be flown again.

Although none of the other group members even mentioned it, I knew that I wanted to fly with an instructor again. I'd never flown the Europa on a hard runway. This seemed like the perfect opportunity to book some dual time, and not only go to a hard runway, but also have the instructor check out my technique on a grass runway to check I wasn't doing anything wrong that could explain the prop strike. So I booked the instructor, and last week I went flying again.

Within the first couple of circuits, it was obvious to my instructor what the problem had been. I was flying the Europa like a Super Cub. Remember way back at the start of the story, I told you that I used to lift the tail on the Super Cub too late, and my instructors had taught me to lift the tail earlier? But that, on the Europa, you have to lift the tail as late as possible? Well, in the 5 weeks that I hadn't flown, I'd forgotten all my Europa training, and gone back to Super Cub flying techniques. What probably happened was that, when I hit a bump, the momentum of the counter-weight that balances the stabilator had resulted in the stick moving forward slightly in my hand. Combine this with the fact that the tail was already raised off the ground when it shouldn't have been, and it was a little higher than it should be raised anyway, and the prop clearance was down to zero.

You always read about the chain of events which leads up to an accident. There were a couple of obvious problems in this case. First of all, I hadn't flown for 5 weeks. I know there are lots of pilots out there who fly less regularly than this, but I wasn't used to such a long break. Then, when I did the first couple of circuits and realised my take-offs weren't going according to plan, I should have stopped. Sometimes just stopping for a cup of tea gives you the chance to think about what you're doing wrong, then you can go back out and put it right. But I didn't stop for a cup of tea.

But I think the chain of events in this case probably goes right back to the day I started my training. As the instructor was explaining about tail-dragger flying, my eyes glazed over slightly. Not much - I'm always interested in listening or talking about flying - but I didn't pay as much attention as I should have done, because most of the introduction, I thought, was for the benefit of the other guy, who hadn't flown tail-draggers before. And, because of that, I never really understood how to fly a Europa. And, when it came to having a few weeks off flying, the little Europa knowledge I had was replaced by the much greater knowledge of Super Cubs.

That's been put right now. I have a much better understanding of how my aircraft flies. But it would have saved a lot of hassle if I'd paid attention in the first place.

So, if you're in the process of checking out on a new type, please make sure you really take the time to understand it. My non-flying friends are often amused at the fact that I need an instructor to check me out on a new type - they compare it to having a driving instructor check you out when you get a new car. But the machines we fly aren't cars. and we owe it to ourselves to learn as much about our aircraft as we can.

Safe flying!

FFF
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28thJuly2001
9th Sep 2002, 14:23
I think I will wait until this comes out on video, I didn't have time to read the book. :D
Walt,,

expedite_climb
9th Sep 2002, 14:30
Excellent post ....

You want it when?
9th Sep 2002, 14:33
Great post FFF - takes courage to own up to mistakes like these.

One question - I presume the repairs were covered by insurance or have you spent all the beer money (hint)? And if covered by insurance did you pay the excess or does the group I'm interested in how the mechanics of group flying work. :)

Who has control?
9th Sep 2002, 14:40
Admire your honesty FFF.

Someone once said that we learn from our mistakes and I'm sure that you learnt a lot. I know I've made a few and learnt my lessons.

Albatros6
9th Sep 2002, 14:52
is much easier, than to change something you learnt before...
however, a prop strike is like a gear's up touchdown, there are those who did it, and those who will
(fortunately most of the pilots are'nt in possession of a licence that long)

Keep enjoying!

Rod1
9th Sep 2002, 14:53
FFF,

Your story strikes a cord with me. I to had quite a bit of tail wheal experience before trying a mono-wheel Europa. I was very surprised how tricky it was, and also suffered from the same problem as you, raising the tail too early.

I have a friend who sells propellers, some of which are suitable for Europas. He rubs his hands together with glee every time he supplies one for a mono-wheel. Apparently, two or three propellers a year is not uncommon, in his experience! So you are now a member of a large and rapidly growing group! You could always convert it to a tri-gear!

On your point about Checkouts, do remember that the Europa is a fairly extreme case. I was once of a similar opinion to you about checkouts, but having flown in single seaters, I now realise it is possible to solve the problem in many different ways. As you say it is all about taking the time to understand the aircraft. If you have sufficient experience and an appropriate briefing from someone who knows the aircraft, it is possible to fly safely; otherwise no one would ever learn to fly single seat aircraft! The Europa, on the other hand, is another matter.

Do not worry about your prop strike; you are probably the last person it will ever happen to again!

Rod

dublinpilot
9th Sep 2002, 15:22
Thanks for the post fff.

We can all learn something from it.

While it's difficult to admit to our mistakes, it will no doubt help prevent some of the rest of us here making the same one.

I have just recently been checked out on a different type, as the usual one I fly is away on annual service.

Did check out ride 2 weeks ago. It was more difficult than I though it would be (different perspective on flare), but after about 1 hour, I was cleared on it. I did a few solo circuits afterwards.

Last weekend I could not fly because of bad weather. And this week I'm going on holidays to the US. I am planning on doing a checkride and hiring a C172 while away, which is a new type for me.

My club doesn't insist on currency checkrides for a specific period of inactavity....only if the instructor thinks you need it. So I may not be asked to do a checkride when I return, and I was not planning on "wasting money" on doing one if I was not asked to. I was also reasoning to myself that having been checked out onto two different types within 2 months would help broden my experience, and reduce the need to currency on a particular type.

However having read your post, I now realise how stupid that would be. When I get back, I will ask for an instructor to come with me for a few circuits, in both the plane I was recently checked out on, and the one I'm used to flying.

Thank you for your honesty. It's helped save me from making the same mistake.

FlyingForFun
9th Sep 2002, 16:28
YWIW,

I was very lucky as far as the cost is concerned. The guys in France managed to repair the prop, which is much cheaper than buying a new one. The gearbox and crankshaft were both declared "better than new" after being inspected. The total cost was split roughly equally between the prop repair, the cost of shipping the prop to and from France, and the engine inspection, and came to not very much more than the insurance excess.

Because of that, we decided not to claim on the insurance. I was quite prepared to pay the whole cost myself. But my group agreed that this wasn't fair. Instead, they asked me to pay an amount equivalent to the insurance excess, which is what I'd have paid if we had claimed. The rest of the cost, they argued, was a group cost, because the reason that we were incurring the cost was to avoid an increase in insurance premium the next year. So we split the remainder of the cost between us. More than fair, IMHO - like I said, I'd have been more than happy to have paid the whole amount myself.

Still just about enough money left over to buy you a beer, as long as you're buying me one back afterwards of course ;) That's as long as my tax problems work out ok - but that's a whole different story, and doesn't really belong on PPRuNe!

FFF
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SlipSlider
9th Sep 2002, 18:41
FFF, good post.
BTW it sounds as though you're in a group with a good bunch of people - from bitter experience I can tell you that is more important by far than the aeroplane itself.
Slip

andrewc
10th Sep 2002, 00:12
FFF,

I've had two of my worst takeoffs from White Waltham,
in a well loaded SR-22, on both occasions hit big bumps
just before take off speed...making it more of a hop skip
and a jump into the air.

No physical harm was done but I didn't enjoy the
experience.

The truth is that sometimes things will go wrong, and
you shouldn't beat yourself up to much about stuff that
really you couldn't alter,

-- Andrew

Kermit 180
10th Sep 2002, 02:48
It is very admirable and very brave of you to share your experience. Thankyou FFF.

Kermie

NB Please check your private messages.

LowNSlow
10th Sep 2002, 06:06
10 points for honesty FFF, it's good you've seen the positive side of the experience and learned from it and it didn't cost you too much money :D

foxmoth
10th Sep 2002, 07:26
Just to show it can happen to the more experienced - a VERY experienced member of the CAA came & borrowed an aircraft from the club I fly at, did not bother with a checkout OR a briefing (basically bullied the secretary into letting the a/c go without this) and ended up unable to close the throttle due to difficulties with the friction nut that everyone else in the club knows about from their checkout!

Whirlybird
10th Sep 2002, 08:27
Excellent post FFF. Taught me a lot. Should be read by everybody, but especially by those of us who fly different types, and have enough hours that we occasionally think we know what we're doing up there. I'm talking about myself with that comment, but I daresay I'm not unique.

G SXTY
10th Sep 2002, 11:27
Nice post FFF, and very thought-provoking.

The comments about it ‘happening to any one of us’ are spot on. In my very limited experience of White Waltham, the runways are so bumpy that you were pretty much guaranteed a prop strike sooner or later.

Nice prawn sandwiches though!

AerBabe
10th Sep 2002, 11:27
I wondered whether you'd post about this... see... didn't I tell you at the time it wasn't your fault. No-one ever believes that just after it's happened though. :)

I've got to admit that I'm over-cautious about flying in different types after a break. There's not much dangerous about taking off in a C152 on a 3/4 mile hard strip, but I still got my instructor to sit with me while I did some circuits after a 2.5 month break. I had been flying in that time, but in a Cherokee. Of course everything was fine, but it still made me happier! I just hope I'm still this sensible when I've got another hundred or so hours under my belt...

CBG
10th Sep 2002, 17:22
Probably one of the most interesting post I ever read on this forum.

I admire you for having had the courage to share this with us and thanks a lot for taking the time to write it in such a detailed manner. I'll remember your story next time I go up flying.

Final 3 Greens
12th Sep 2002, 11:24
FFF

Even if one undertakes a full conversion course, there is always a danger of "regression to prior experience" when under pressure.

David Beatty (in the Naked Pilot) highlights an example of this whereby pilots new to 707s reverted to Comet techniques during landings.

So don't be too hard on yourself, we are all hard wired this way and as other posters have said it could happen to any of us at any time.

Thanks for sharing such a thought provoking story.

fu 24 950
17th Sep 2002, 12:50
FOXMOTH, a quick question, what is your company policy (is it the same as your club's) If you have a problem with the throttle ( friction nut ) on your A330/320, dooes evey person in the company get a check ride at great cost or (B) you DEFECT it and get it fixed..

foxmoth
17th Sep 2002, 19:40
This 'problem' (and not dissimilar to the problem of flying a Cessna fitted with a vernier throttle if you have not flown one before), I believe is common to type, so in my company would be covered by either the type course (checkout), or a Flight crew notice (Briefing).:rolleyes:

carbheatcold
18th Sep 2002, 19:36
FFF,

I think your post is worthy of a much greater audience than just Private Flying. Thanks for having the courage to post it. It just goes to prove learning is a continual process.

Good luck

carbheatcold

AMEX
19th Sep 2002, 15:44
Now it's me who is going to get you that Guinness.

The man formerly known as
20th Sep 2002, 13:05
Fascinating Post.

Bill Bedford had a saying he was fond of reciting

'Even a monkey can fall from a tree'.

Excellent that your group took it in the correct manner it could just as easily happen to the rest of them (or us, including CFIs). Its all part of the learning experience.