Passenger Briefing

[tomahawk1673]

I'm about to take my first passenger up in an 172 when I get a chance.

I've read a previous thread on a passenger brief, but I was wondering if anyone else could share what they say to the non-aviators?

I've already drafted up one, and was wondering if it is reasonable to construct a brief checklist on the topic so I don't forget something?

ALso wondering on the topic of the Brace position, I know the position for a rear passenger (as shown in the Safety Sense Leaflet from the CAA), but what about the front passenger?

Thanks.

[AerBabe]

This (http://www.pprune.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63178) recent thread should help you out. It should vary from passenger to passenger, depending on a number of factors, including knowledge, age, interest, flying experience etc etc. Most important thing is not to swamp them with so much information that they forget it all! Good luck ;)

[big.al]

I tend to keep the briefing fairly.... brief!

I tell the passenger not to touch any controls, and to tell me if they touch something inadvertantly. Most important is keep feet well away from pedals.

I explain that in the unlikely event of an emergency landing, it may be necessary to unlatch the door just prior to touchdown to prevent the door being jammed if the airframe bends (but this is dependent on a/c type - it's OK in C150/152/172 or PA28, I would probably NOT do this with a bubble canopy that's hinged at the back, like a Katana!).

Advise the passenger to let you know if they feel ill, and as mentioned in a previous thread by Aerbabe (I think) keep an eye on them just in case they go pale or quiet, or start to sweat (sure sign of airsickness or terror, or both).

Tell the passenger how to adjust their seat but ensure that it locks in place - no good having the pax sliding forward into the control column as you start your descent! Show them how to fasten and undo the seatbelt. Tell them NEVER to touch the prop. and to always walk away from the aircraft rearwards (unless a pusher prop aircraft of course!) when getting out, and to keep clear of other 'planes/taxiways etc.

I think that's basically what I did on Wednesday evening when I took up my boss for the first time. The bit I forgot until back on the ground was to tell him my demands for a pay rise and my threat to operate the ficticious ejector seat if he didn't agree.:D

[Piper Warrior Pilot]

There is a good publuication on the caa's website:

www.caa.co.uk

Unfortunately im unsure of the title of the publication but its definately there somewhere in the 'Publications' section. Ive downloaded it and found it a good sourse of information.

Hope his helps, with a good search you should find it. Sorry i cant help further.

regards

[28thJuly2001]

Sit down, shut up, touch nowt, pay half.
Walt,,

[stiknruda]

Took one of Mrs Stik's babalicious friends up for a quick hurtle around E Anglia in a Pitts last night. My first pax for several months.

As I strapped her in - I explained egress and emergency procedures. I tried hard not to dwell too much on the negatives.

She loved the flight.

Tonight though (24 hrs after the event) she wanted to know more about the canopy jettisoning procedure - when/why. etc

I reminded her that I'd gone thru' all of this last night - yeah well I was so excited/scared I don't think I grasped it.

Stik, now very shaken, swears that he will ensure pax understand their role in an emergency more fuly!!

You don't want to terrify them but you want them to be able to help themselves/you.

Tough, eh?




stik

[djk]

I was looking for exactly the same info,

cheers chaps and chapess :D

[Evo7]

PWP - the document you are looking for is one of the Safety Sense Leaflets (http://www.caa.co.uk/srg/general_aviation/document.asp?groupid=231) - number 2, but the rest are so useful that I thought I'd post a link to the whole lot :)

[Piper Warrior Pilot]

Thanks for that Evo 7. Im sure tomohawk1627 will find the publications very useful. I did even though ive just started my PPL. After reading them i was able to answer a few questions from friends about emergency procedures etc...

[tomahawk1673]

Thanks Evo, but as I mentioned in my post, I already have the Safety Sense Leaflet.

Does anyone know the Brace position for a front passenger (ie, one with a control column in front of them)?

TIA

[Evo7]

T'hawk - I realized that. I was just trying to make PWP's link a bit more useful :)

[EGCC4284]

1, Always explain to your passenger how the
button for transmitting on the radio works in
case you pass out and they need to talk to ATC

A flying instructor friend of mine passed out and
the guy having the trial lesson managed to fly
to a near by airfield and be talked down to
finals with help off ATC.

At that point my friend came around and took
over the controls and landed the plane.

He doesn't instruct any more but is thankfully still alive.

[GRP]

I think the front seat brace position is to sit with your back pressed as hard as you can against the seat back with your hands on the seat either side of your legs and your feet flat on the floor away from the pedals. You then brace yourself with your arms and press down with your feet. No idea where I saw that.

Also read that stuffing something like a folded-up jacket on your head can help reduce the knock if you do hit the things in front of you, although quite how you do that practically whilst using both hands to brace I don't know!

As an aside... When I took my 6 year old son over the channel I bought and wore a helmet on the basis that I didn't want to end up knocking myself out and leave a child to fend for himself! Only put the thing on for the water crossing. I try to keep it out of sight at the airfield to avoid having people give me funny looks!