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Knifedge
20th Jul 2002, 15:05
Flying along merrily this morning and heard Scottish saying the runway was blocked due to a flapless landing and subsequent brake overheat. The A/c needed to be towed from the runway and they were starting to stack the hold.
I never heard the conclusion, anyone familiar with the outcome?
A BMI Embraer 145 overheated its brakes after a flapless landing about mid-day.It was towed off the runway about 20 minutes later followed by four fire engines and passengers disembarked as normal at the gate.No major problem but it did use every single inch of runway !!
Hotel Tango
20th Jul 2002, 19:05
Ballpark figure - what would Vref be for a 145 flapless? (Just out of interest).
SmolaTheMedevacGuy
20th Jul 2002, 21:34
160 kts, as far as I remember. Did it have thrust reversers?
What_does_this_button_do?
20th Jul 2002, 22:28
The 145 doesn't have reversers.
spancan
21st Jul 2002, 00:15
160 knots my *ss.
Hotel Tango
21st Jul 2002, 08:23
I was hoping to get a factual reply from a 145 driver. It seems, however, that I've managed to get the kids squabbling instead! So, is it 160 kts or not?
145qrh
21st Jul 2002, 08:55
THe flapless speed for the 145 is somewhere between 140 and 155 knots , depending on the weight
Tinstaafl
21st Jul 2002, 12:28
For comparison, what's the full flap Vref range?
Fly on the Wall
22nd Jul 2002, 17:59
The full flap VRef range is 108 to 140.
ladbroke
22nd Jul 2002, 19:34
Flapfail Vref 162KIAS( Vref 45 +30) Try looking at the QRH or asking a rated pilot before commenting.
Jacksman
23rd Jul 2002, 10:24
Better still, buy those gorgeous Canadair CRJ 200's - they come complete with thrust reversers and are built better than the cheap brazilian junglejets.
SmolaTheMedevacGuy
23rd Jul 2002, 20:50
But they COST a lot more - nothing is for free. Besides, EMB-145 is a really nice airplane, though it has some flaws.
Greetings
Smola