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tartare
28th Jun 2017, 09:07
Is it just me?
I see something in a movie that is clearly powered by a gas turbine and has a high velocity rotor system.
It should make a noise like a powerful fixed wing light plane (as does a 500) or even a light turboprop.
Sometimes said chopper even has a fenestron - and we all know what that sounds like.
But some goddam lazy foley artist has dubbed in either:
*the sound of a UH-1, or even worse
*a Bell 47!
Maybe I'm getting anal in my old age?
But to my ears - your modern helicopter sounds a darn sight better.
Why can't they get it right!!!

heliduck
28th Jun 2017, 09:20
Now you've spoilt my movie going experience! I guess the moon buggy in "Armageddon" wasn't really a V8?
At least Vin Diesels stunts in the F&F movies are real.

Avtrician
28th Jun 2017, 09:21
Along with the revving up as it lift off.

Another thing that gets me, is the starting of a C130, that sounds like a DC3 with low compression.

tartare
28th Jun 2017, 09:33
Yes!!!
To my ear, there's nothing more poetic than the high energy electric whine of a starter motor, the ticking of injectors and then that "whoosh" as the gas lights in the can...

Flying Binghi
28th Jun 2017, 11:58
"Electric whine..." Bah, humbug..;)

What were that Rusky machine with the radials hanging off either side - a Kamov ? Now i reckon that woulda been a sweet stereo system.

Edit to add: The YouTube vid... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J1xKhc77VXk




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Bell_ringer
28th Jun 2017, 16:02
Airwolf sounded like a wounded elephant, or more recently, a member of Theresa May's cabinet watching the election results :cool:

albatross
28th Jun 2017, 16:33
Most helicopters in films usually crash or blow up within minutes. Darn unsafe those things!

419
28th Jun 2017, 19:32
Yes!!!
To my ear, there's nothing more poetic than the high energy electric whine of a starter motor, the ticking of injectors and then that "whoosh" as the gas lights in the can...

If your injectors are ticking then I think you have a serious problem!

albatross
28th Jun 2017, 21:05
If your injectors are ticking then I think you have a serious problem!
Guess you never flew a Huey or Jetranger.

Sloppy Link
28th Jun 2017, 21:34
I know quite a few pilots who are always ticking....

bob2s
28th Jun 2017, 21:35
Yes,but never heard injectors ticking but heard a hell of a lot of igniter ticking!

tartare
28th Jun 2017, 22:54
Er - Igniter - yeah - that's wot I meant.
But they do tick...
Slinks off in embarrassment... :ouch:

Tickle
29th Jun 2017, 02:41
Sound editors annoy me with this habit of making almost all helicopters on film sound like a two-bladed Huey but they are just sound editors, not a helicopter nut like me.

More lately I've noticed they tend to edit together the sound of different machines depending on what the helicopter is doing. Eg. approaching from a distance = Huey. Fast fly by = Gazelle. Landing = Bell 407 or similar four-blader.

A lot of credit must be given to the sound editors on Blue Thunder who kept everything consistent between the three main featured helicopter types. Even when the JetRanger formates with the Gazelle during the "flight check" scene, you can hear on a good sound system that they put a lot of effort into getting it right.

Flying Bull
29th Jun 2017, 02:55
http://www.polizeifliegerstaffel.de/userfiles/downloads/EC155flyby.mp3 If you need a Flyby - EC155...

tartare
29th Jun 2017, 06:10
Now that sounds like a helicopter.
Interesting - three noises there.
The low frequency boom at first I assume is a shockwave ahead of the main rotor?
Then some main rotor tip noise as it flies past - and finally the noise of the fenestron?

Flying Bull
29th Jun 2017, 18:39
Now that sounds like a helicopter.
Interesting - three noises there.
The low frequency boom at first I assume is a shockwave ahead of the main rotor?
Then some main rotor tip noise as it flies past - and finally the noise of the fenestron?

Could well be, just recorded a low flyby
Bit you Fan find lots of Sounds in youtube...

i.e. https://youtu.be/o1SWnUDD5hw


I.e. https://youtu.be/4wHsNcvf3qA

aa777888
30th Jun 2017, 01:30
The predominant noise on the outbound leg of a high speed pass is engine noise. The noise from the fenestron, while present, is quite diminished compared to engine (turbine exhaust) noise.

DonQuixote23
3rd Jul 2017, 09:44
Worst I've seen (heard) is Edge of Tomorrow where they start up an old Schweizer 300 and apparently this one has a turbine...

http://2.bp.********.com/-g8q7AlzS_Bc/U9AU7I897jI/AAAAAAAABkQ/VpQZH6_2bpk/s1600/Edge+of+Tomorrow+helicopter.jpg

Flying Binghi
3rd Jul 2017, 10:18
Worst I've seen (heard) is Edge of Tomorrow where they start up an old Schweizer 300 and apparently this one has a turbine...

http://2.bp.********.com/-g8q7AlzS_Bc/U9AU7I897jI/AAAAAAAABkQ/VpQZH6_2bpk/s1600/Edge+of+Tomorrow+helicopter.jpg

Links not working for me.

Be surprised if aviation and motorbike nut Cruise let that through...

MightyGem
3rd Jul 2017, 20:25
Is it just me?
I see something in a movie that is clearly powered by a gas turbine and has a high velocity rotor system.
It should make a noise like a powerful fixed wing light plane (as does a 500) or even a light turboprop.
Sometimes said chopper even has a fenestron - and we all know what that sounds like.
But some goddam lazy foley artist has dubbed in either:
*the sound of a UH-1, or even worse
*a Bell 47!
Maybe I'm getting anal in my old age?
But to my ears - your modern helicopter sounds a darn sight better.
Why can't they get it right!!!
You mean you've only just noticed? It's always been like that.

Senior Pilot
3rd Jul 2017, 20:36
Worst I've seen (heard) is Edge of Tomorrow where they start up an old Schweizer 300 and apparently this one has a turbine...

http://2.bp.********.com/-g8q7AlzS_Bc/U9AU7I897jI/AAAAAAAABkQ/VpQZH6_2bpk/s1600/Edge+of+Tomorrow+helicopter.jpg

PPRuNe doesn't like the word b l o g and replaces it with stars, but why not use one of the two options available right here to host a photo? Either upload into the post, or put it into your own album: either way will ensure that other Rotorheads see your photo :ok:

AAKEE
3rd Jul 2017, 20:45
Obviously there is only one helicopter sound file(Huey). The same one shared by all studios.

outofwhack
3rd Jul 2017, 21:16
It just confirms the rightful place that the Bell 47 has - the most widely recognised and classic helicopter. There is one hanging in the New York Museum of Modern Art (MOMA).

MightyGem
4th Jul 2017, 19:19
PPRuNe doesn't like the word b l o g
Why not????