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OMAAbound
18th Sep 2016, 12:12
Nothing short of pure dangerous yesterday, guys stepping on everyone's toes, and Iranian ATC screaming like little children barking orders like possessed school teachers! Add in the daily ME rush, let's all have a party and make it guess work!

Safe flying through the area chaps!

OMAAbound

pfvspnf
18th Sep 2016, 12:24
Still better than China

OMAAbound
18th Sep 2016, 13:17
I'm lucky I don't have to head in that direction!

But yes, from past experience it's pretty bad

"Fhrufhfb Eeeehad 113 lifbejsba wemain FL310"

Something like that!

3Greens
18th Sep 2016, 19:06
I've always found Tehran And air defence nothing but friendly and welcoming.

High 6
19th Sep 2016, 18:34
Imagine how much busier it's going to get when Iranair get their 300+ shiny new jets and start their proposed expansion program.

Fun, fun, fun .....

lospilotos
19th Sep 2016, 22:36
Perhaps if we pilots paid better attention to the calls, so they don't have to call the same aircraft 3+ times...

And how about this? Listen for 5 seconds on the new freq before keying the mike and you reduce the risk of stepping on someone else...

White Knight
20th Sep 2016, 00:47
Perhaps if we pilots paid better attention to the calls, so they don't have to call the same aircraft 3+ times...

And how about this? Listen for 5 seconds on the new freq before keying the mike and you reduce the risk of stepping on someone else...

That sums it up very well... What is with these clowns who don't listen out before barging in:ugh::ugh:?

speedbirdhopeful1
20th Sep 2016, 07:34
Perhaps if we pilots paid better attention to the calls, so they don't have to call the same aircraft 3+ times...

And how about this? Listen for 5 seconds on the new freq before keying the mike and you reduce the risk of stepping on someone else...

Amen to that! Embarrassing when it's your colleagues doing it.
Mind you about 75% of our colleagues don't know the check-in requirements on first contact with our home base approach or departures so what hope is there really..

Mr Mac
20th Sep 2016, 11:52
Not a pilot but from a number of friends who are, with a number based in Mid East all their negative comments have concerned Turkish ATC and in particular Eastern Turkey where you make your turn to enter Iranian airspace. Always pleased to be past that point as SLF and in particular during bad weather.
Regards
Mr Mac

glofish
20th Sep 2016, 12:13
The controllers are rarely the problem, i would even give them a 4,5 out of 5 in this region.

Iran ATC is good and even Turkish ATC is ok, albeit the high pitched voice of the Ankara sisters can be somewhat annoying.

What bothers me more is, as has been mentioned already, the not listening out and then stepping on everybody of our beloved flying colleagues.

It would especially help if some (especially FOs!) could raise their voice from a unmotivated mumble to a level similar to what you need to raise the attention of the knockout girl next to you at Barasti.

... and EK could buy some decent headsets, because the provided ones deliver not very much more than a poor "flffl s'fllffll zseero slf'aleffl"