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ORAC
21st Feb 2016, 13:34
HT to SNAFU!

Tied together with his statement that they are going to move against Assad, and the statements from Turkey, this is a big flag being waved at not only Iran, but also Moscow.........

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Saudi Political Analyst Dahham Al-'Anzi: KSA Has Obtained Nuclear Bomb. Test May Be Held Soon (http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/5327.htm)

Saudi political analyst Dahham Al-‘Anzi spoke on Russia Today Arabic TV channel on February 15 and claimed that Saudi Arabia has obtained a nuclear bomb. Al-‘Anzi said that the Saudis have acquired the bomb two years ago and that a nuclear test is expected soon. “The superpowers know about this,” he added.

Courtney Mil
21st Feb 2016, 14:04
Ooh, goody. We might be able to watch a nuclear war at last. Do you think Russia will leave the West alone if we promise not to get involved, or will the UK want to use theirs before Corbyn takes all the warheads out?

MPN11
21st Feb 2016, 14:27
Time to buy shares in molten glass/sand?

What a cheerful thought for a wet, grey, day ... yet another extremist branch of a religion with a nuke :(

ORAC
21st Feb 2016, 14:29
The threats are escalating on both sides......

Risking Nuclear War for Al Qaeda? (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/18/risking-nuclear-war-for-al-qaeda/)

".......A source close to Russian President Vladimir Putin told me that the Russians have warned Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan that Moscow is prepared to use tactical nuclear weapons if necessary to save their troops in the face of a Turkish-Saudi onslaught. Since Turkey is a member of NATO, any such conflict could quickly escalate into a full-scale nuclear confrontation."...........

glad rag
21st Feb 2016, 14:49
So the Iranian's give up their programm and are invited back into the family of nations, so how about doing just the opposite for SA??

Just a thought.

MPN11
21st Feb 2016, 14:58
The only family the Kingdom of Saud is interested is it's own 'extended Royal family', and oil money. Oh, and extending their extreme version on Islam everywhere else.

They exist in the 'family of nations' due to oil ... tax that away and they would be the new Albania.

Trash 'n' Navs
21st Feb 2016, 16:19
this is a big flag being waved at not only Iran, but also Moscow.........


Don't believe it. A quote on Russian TV seems like propaganda to me - great to stir up trouble for a domestic audience.

A_Van
21st Feb 2016, 17:40
Can hardly believe that. Smells like one more kilo/pound of b-sh-t thrown upon the media fan.

First, the Saudis cannot produce the toy themselves. This would become clear quite soon (like with the Iran case). The only way to get it is to buy from a friendly islamic regime (we know one, which BTW did not sign the Treaty on the non-proliferation).

Second, the world intelligences would uncover any talks, if any, between the buyer and seller at their early stages and raise a serious point (both confidentially and publicly).

Third, even the subject is delivered, whatever are the delivery means (surface-to-suface or air-to-surface), they remain vulnarable for hi-tech military powers (including Israel in the first place) and could be destroyed by conventional hi-pres weapons.

NutLoose
21st Feb 2016, 18:36
And meanwhile around the other side of the World

Expert: North Korea's H-bomb is 'Super-EMP' weapon | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/expert-north-koreas-h-bomb-is-super-emp-weapon/article/2579715)

AreOut
21st Feb 2016, 19:04
I guess Israel would know about that if it were true. And they certainly wouldn't be happy.

racedo
21st Feb 2016, 19:09
Like this is a surprise ?

Rosevidney1
21st Feb 2016, 21:34
I think it was Oscar Wilde who said "Believe only half the lies you are told".

(If it wasn't him it should have been!)

bcgallacher
22nd Feb 2016, 00:34
I spent quite a few years in Saudi and frankly the idea of them having a nuclear weapon scares me ****less. A more incompetent race of people would be hard to find,they would be totally incapable of designing or constructing such a weapon and would not have the ability to maintain it safely - remember the 'Inshallah' philosophy.

gr4techie
22nd Feb 2016, 01:16
Saudi Join the Nuclear Weapon Club

I wonder if theres a SLBM or two that have just had their target coordinates re-programmed ?

Thelma Viaduct
22nd Feb 2016, 01:31
They've had them for 10 years, old news matey.

Thelma Viaduct
22nd Feb 2016, 01:46
I guess Israel would know about that if it were true. And they certainly wouldn't be happy.

House of saud (that were put in power by the British) descend from jews, Israel helped them technically along with Pakistan, Saudis financed it.

Iran is the common enemy.

Do the math, as folk from the US&A say.

ORAC
22nd Feb 2016, 06:51
it's been an open secret for years the Saudi's funded the Pakistani bomb on the agreement thy got warheads you don't buy and install IRBMs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Saudi_Strategic_Missile_Force) to throw 1K HE warheads (incidentally, all launch pads aimed east at Iran, none to the west at Israel.)

But this is the first public admission of their existence.......

dallas
22nd Feb 2016, 06:51
It's a sensational story, which on the basis of that very reaction leads me to think it's just that. The US simply wouldn't let the Saudis have nukes as it would destabilise the region and only fuel the Arab arms race they're so keen to avoid. Or, put another way, the US may be underwriting the Saudis militarily in the event of Iran etc getting boisterous, but that will be conditional on them shelving their nuclear ambitions.

Thelma Viaduct
22nd Feb 2016, 08:15
The US&A dance to the Saudi tune, they're bankrupt like us.

Saudi funded the 9/11 terrorists, US&A turned a blind eye, then they invaded Iraq to find 'wmd', then 'regime change', then install 'democracy', then hunt 'terrorists', then fight 'ISIS'.

They didn't touch a drop of oil either.

All the places that welcomed Christians like Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria are now full of extremists since the CIA got bored of the western installed puppet governments.

Maybe chaos is exactly what the US&A wants now they're skint. War makes money for the elite, life is cheap.

AreOut
22nd Feb 2016, 08:20
"House of saud (that were put in power by the British) descend from jews, Israel helped them technically along with Pakistan, Saudis financed it.

Iran is the common enemy.

Do the math, as folk from the US&A say."

I understand your math however Israelis wouldn't believe them even if they descended from Juda himself.

A_Van
22nd Feb 2016, 11:31
Thelma Viaduct, let me disagree on two points of your sharp posts.

1. Quite a strange statement about Saidis and Jews. Do you have a proof link? All the official publications say that the current dynasty of the Suadi kings could only be traced back to the 15th century as oldest. The legend about a jew who deceived Bedouins, killed their leaders and then declared himself a king does exist in the folklore, but sounds as realistic as dragons killed in multitude by the knights of the King Arthur.

2. "CIA et al" did not get bored of their "western installed puppet governments". In think it was indeed a great achievement that secular regimes were installed in some islamic countries in the XX-th century and nobody was interested to change this order. IMHO, some western establishments got bored and irritated about particular puppets like Gaddafi, Husein, etc. who got out of control. But a great mistake was to underestimate the level of religious extremism of the mob that came after. Why to fall into the forth pitfall in Syria after Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia? That "baby Assad" is not a good guy and clearly should be replaced, but he managed to continue the secular regime of this dad for about 10 years until a so-called "arab spring" was implanted in Syria.

ORAC
22nd Feb 2016, 12:11
The suggestion it is a bluff is somewhat contraindicated by the inclusion of the statement that there will be a test "in the near future".

Just to make sure no one panics when a ball of sunshine appears somewhere in the Saudi desert.......

Heathrow Harry
22nd Feb 2016, 14:53
It's been rumoured for years that the Saudi arrangement with Pakistan was for the provision on N weapons IF they were attacked or threatened with N weapons by either Iran or Israel

As people have pointed out why buy an IRBM for an HE warhead?

The enemy tho' are realy Iran - the Saudi leadership can really see a possible "incident" involving a Shia uprising and their fraternal brothers waltzing in (nothing to with the oil of course).

Israel is an enemy but not really a likely risk to the regime - sure as hell the last thing they want is another bunch of Muslims and they already have enough issues regarding Jerusalem to want to take on Holy Places which have absolutely nothing to with Judaism

Pontius Navigator
22nd Feb 2016, 15:54
A Van, Gaddafi was your puppet not ours. While King Idris reigned we had a superb free airspace training area and a live bombing range. The USAF also benefitted to the same extent.

Lonewolf_50
22nd Feb 2016, 16:04
I understand your math however Israelis wouldn't believe them even if they descended from Juda himself.
What about Father Abraham?


Hmm, that would be a great name for a nuke missile: Father Abraham, or maybe Alab Ibrahim?

27mm
22nd Feb 2016, 16:24
Launch windows will be outside prayer times?

skippedonce
23rd Feb 2016, 11:42
I was quite alarmed by this until I saw the source as Russia Today; a propaganda mouthpiece for the Putin kleptocracy, making mischief with useful idiots.

The only other quote I can find about the apparent political analyst, regarding Saudi involvement in Yemen in Apr 15 - 'Al-Anzi stated: "I can make ready one million suicide to in 15 minutes because many people are willing to enter heaven"!'. Yep, sounds like a balanced, credible source to me!

ORAC
23rd Feb 2016, 11:55
"Founding Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Counter-Terrorism Operations Center publicly confirms Saudi Arabia has deliverable nuclear bombs.

Last week, on “The Hal Turner Show” Mr. Turner told his audience that, based on his years of experience as a National Security Intelligence Asset with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, Saudi Arabia is in possession of nuclear weapons. He also made clear that a CIA asset had (earlier) made this revelation in public, on Fox News, and this revelation was a staggering breach of Classified Information protocols.

Turner went on to say that “the only way a guy from the CIA would reveal such information is if Washington wanted the information revealed; otherwise the person who exposed the classified material could be criminally prosecuted.”........

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teeteringhead
23rd Feb 2016, 12:01
Hmm, that would be a great name for a nuke missile: Father Abraham, or maybe Alab Ibrahim? But the Israelis already have a good name .....

......... Jericho! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho_(missile))

.... "and the walls came a-tumbling down!" And just about everything else as well!

skippedonce
23rd Feb 2016, 13:45
Courtesy of Wiki: Harold Charles "Hal" Turner (born March 15, 1962) is an American white nationalist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism), Holocaust denier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial)[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner#cite_note-1) and blogger from North Bergen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Bergen,_New_Jersey), New Jersey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey). In August 2010, he was convicted for making threats against three federal judges with the 7th U.S. Circuit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Circuit) Court of Appeals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_courts_of_appeals). Prior to Turner's arrest, his radio program, The Hal Turner Show, was a webcast (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webcast) from his home once a week.

Yep, sounds like (another) balanced, credible source!

downsizer
23rd Feb 2016, 13:58
The Saudis won't be going into Syria at any time, they're too busy having their ass handed to them by the houthis in Yemen.

27mm
23rd Feb 2016, 15:11
Wonder how things are at Khamis, bearing in mind what's happening not too far away........