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MightyGem
5th Dec 2014, 21:48
Not seen this on here yet. Doesn't concern me though. :E
EHA Challenges in-the-works Flight-time Limits | Business Aviation: Aviation International News (http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2014-12-03/eha-challenges-works-flight-time-limits)

GoodGrief
5th Dec 2014, 22:30
...Pilots work seven days on/14 off/seven on/21 off, a system that provides availability of 97 to 98 percent...

That's 105 working days and 260 days off per year. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Bravo73
5th Dec 2014, 22:47
That's 105 working days and 260 days off per year. Correct me if I'm wrong.

IIRC, the seven days 'on' is 7 x 24hr duties. So not just your regular 'days' work.

EESDL
6th Dec 2014, 21:37
Any companies out there distinguish between night and day totals for duty?
I find it strange why fatigue is not linked to night flying.
Yes, total hours change depending upon check-in time, but that does not account for shorter days during winter, for example?

Sloppy Link
6th Dec 2014, 22:04
Not so much night flying but the amount of hours in a duty is governed by the time you "clock on".

EESDL
7th Dec 2014, 08:39
That's my point - if we are serious about "fatigue" then why does night manoeuvring eat up the same 'duty' as AP-in day cruise?
All the safety wisdom clearly states night operations as more stressful - therefore more fatiguing......and yet no differentiation is made.
The FTDL considers circadian rythems etc but not the obvious, imho.

Brilliant Stuff
7th Dec 2014, 11:35
As long as NPAS are allowed to work the dangerous 3/3/3 shift system......:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

handysnaks
7th Dec 2014, 12:43
What dangerous 3/3/3 system is that?
What NPAS units are working it?