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Jude098
3rd Aug 2014, 12:38
Does anyone know of a 300m+ strip ok for a Eurostar EV97 near to Croydon, Surrey.

I've been denied access to Biggin Hill as the EV97 is a microlight! Biggin suggested Redhill but by the time getting to Redhill station, train and then sorted the other end it's not not to be much fifferent than driving the whole trip from Cheltenham to Croydon and back.

I've a meeting in West Croydon Tuesday or Wednesday this week for a couple of hours. Would be in and out back to Gloucester the same day.

Thanks

Jude

vjmehra
3rd Aug 2014, 15:15
Redhill to West Croydon by train is much quicker than from Biggin Hill!!!

What about Kenley as an alternative (not sure if you can fly micros there or not)?

Capt Kremmen
3rd Aug 2014, 17:09
Tell Biggin - or anyone else for that matter - that you've fitted a fuel pump and consequently your Eurostar qualifies as a Group A !

Ask them what they've got against microlites and if it is performance related ask them what their bottom line performance figures are.

xrayalpha
4th Aug 2014, 08:14
Why not fly in to "Vallance By-Ways Gatwick"

More info in a trip report here:

FLYER Forums ? View topic - Flying to Gatwick in the Maule (http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=32563)

and museum web page here:

Flying in Information (http://www.gatwick-aviation-museum.co.uk/inbound.html)

ChickenHouse
4th Aug 2014, 09:05
Have you tried calling Mr. Wadley, Rushett Farm Cottages, Leatherhead Rd, Chessington, Greater London KT9 2NH - private Rushett Farm Airstrip, 10 miles west to southwest of Croydon, N 51°20'11" W 000°18'52", length varying a bit from year to year between 436m and 499m, RWYs 02/20? TJF Agricultural Services +44 1372 747234 or Woodall BJC Ltd +44 1372 722702 should be able to forward requests to Mr. Wadley.

http://airportnavfinder.com/airport/EG86/
http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/malden-rushett/
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/33875

(You did realize that Croydon is not in Surrey, do you? *smart-arseOFF*)

Curlytips
4th Aug 2014, 18:56
Sounds great idea and this strip has been on my bucket list for a while, but last I heard the gentleman had passed away and even the museum was in doubt. Has anyone any current info?:confused:

Jude098
6th Aug 2014, 14:09
Chicken House: Croydon is in Surrey, lol. Might be a Greater London Borough but in Surrey it is. Lived in South Croydon for 15 years!!


Captain Kremmen: fit a fuel pump and not only becomes a Group A you even get an extra 30kg for MTOW. Wonder if added another layer of paint and could callsign G-XXXX heavy, haha.
Performance speeds in a Eurostar no different, or not much, from a C150. Not as though Easy fly into Biggin. Think it's more snobbery.


Have found Andy Shaw (paragliding instructor) and GreenDragons at Warren Barn Farm on Warlingham/Woldringham border. 700M but a field so could be a bit too soggy.


And typically the wx is mucking it all up.... days and days of lovely flying wx and now +RA possible TS. May have to drive it after all.


But thank you all for your help.


Ought to have a "AIR-STIPS" section

ChickenHouse
6th Aug 2014, 14:30
Interesting, when I was in Croydon a while ago it was not thought to be Surrey and also Google Maps shows Croydon outside Surrey?

Whirlybird
6th Aug 2014, 17:12
I grew up in Croydon and it was definitely in Surrey then. Mind you, that was a very long time ago. :{

Sir Niall Dementia
6th Aug 2014, 17:39
I'd go with ChickenHouse;


Rushett farm is great and often has some interesting bits in the hangar, also a brilliant local taxi guy.


SND

ifonly
6th Aug 2014, 20:02
Interesting, when I was in Croydon a while ago it was not thought to be Surrey and also Google Maps shows Croydon outside Surrey?

The answer - sort of ;)

Is Croydon in Surrey or South London? | Croydon Advertiser (http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Croydon-London-Croydon-Surrey/story-15224175-detail/story.html)

Jude098
6th Aug 2014, 21:17
Chicken House: the road I lived on before I emigrated West to Cheltenham, (post code finder) Harewood Road, SOUTH CROYDON, Surrey, CR2

ChickenHouse
7th Aug 2014, 08:28
The answer - sort of
Is Croydon in Surrey or South London? | Croydon Advertiser

Oh my goodness, I stepped into one of these patriotic local politics traps ... sorry.

treadigraph
7th Aug 2014, 10:37
Look I live 'ere. It's Surrey. Right? Sez me. So there!

(...despite the hidden sign beside the A22 in Kenley that says "Surrey" - that border must also now be wrong according to the Boundary Commission or whatever the department is called...)

Saw the same question on Flyer; never knew about the strip at Woodcote (SW of A2022/A237 roundabout) - I live about a mile from there. I reckon a flexwing microlight that used to buzz round sometimes in the evening was operating from there. Might be out of use now, looks a bit unkempt on Bing.

chevvron
7th Aug 2014, 10:59
Its pretty clear on Bing Maps. I never knew it was there either and I often used to drive past it taking the wife to her mothers in Herne Hill.

pistongone
7th Aug 2014, 12:54
I think the confusion may arise from the post code system differing from the administrative boundaries? Croydon, and many other OUTER LONDON boroughs fall within the administrative jurisdiction of City Hall ie;Greater London. This paragraph might clarify things better?

Greater London is an administrative area and ceremonial county within the London region of England.[1] The administrative area was created on 1 April 1965, and covers the whole of the London region. It comprises the City of London and 32 London boroughs, of which 12 are Inner London and 20 Outer London boroughs.[2] The ceremonial county created at the same time, and used by the Lord Lieutenant of Greater London, does not include the City of London.[3] The Greater London Authority, consisting of the Mayor of London and the London Assembly, headquartered in City Hall, has been responsible for strategic local government since 2000. Greater London occupies the same area as the London European Parliament constituency. It is at the first level of NUTS for statistical purposes, covers 1,572 km2 (607 sq mi)[4] and had a population of 8,174,000 at the 2011 census.[5] It has by far the highest GVA per capita in the United Kingdom. The term Greater London was in use before 1965 to refer to various areas larger than the County of London such as the Metropolitan Police District.[6]

There are further references of aluring to be in a better area so as to increase the value of property etc, Bromley Kent for example is an outer London borough? It would appear to me that Croydon is a part of Greater
London though as its population are considered in the figure of 8,000,000 plus in the Census as being in London?

As always it would seem things can be confusing when you are reaching the boundary, the grey areas? Are you in/out or on the line? The ball was definitely in!

Frightened nose gear
9th Aug 2014, 21:36
When i was a very very young kid in croydon i used to watch search light practice. This was well after the war but before croydon closed mid 50s i was so young i didnt know where the f*** it was Surrey, Kent or London.