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Jude098
13th Jul 2014, 15:28
Nice one Amelia Earhart
Flying solo: the Amelia Earhart who made it - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10964007/Flying-solo-the-Amelia-Earhart-who-made-it.html)


Wonder if anyone out there would like to sponsor a similar trip for a 2 woman crew?


OK just asking, lol

Jan Olieslagers
13th Jul 2014, 15:59
Are you really pretending the pilot's sex is relevant? I thought we were beyond that kind of discrimination, in the 21st century.

Mariner9
13th Jul 2014, 16:10
Not the first woman to do it in fact*, but a good effort nonetheless :D

*Eg Polly Vacher, in 2001

fujii
13th Jul 2014, 16:40
Gaby Kennard was the first Australian woman to circumnavigate the globe by airplane. In 1989, she began her journey, following Amelia Earhart's route as much as possible. The trip took 99 days and covered 29,000 nautical miles.

Gabby used a Comanche. The linked news article headlined the latest trip as "Flying Solo" although she had a co-pilot.

Wrong Stuff
13th Jul 2014, 17:00
Just to add another slight fly to the ointment, a Pilatus PC-12 NG is an SET not SEP. Congratulations to her, all the same.

Mike Echo
13th Jul 2014, 18:21
Let's not forget Judith Chisholm who did it in 1980. I think it was a Cessna 210.
M.E.

On Track
13th Jul 2014, 21:29
Lots of misinformation about.

The Daily Telegraph headline is clearly wrong.

And Gaby Kennard actually did her circumnavigation in a Piper Saratoga,VH-GKF.

3 Point
13th Jul 2014, 21:58
Gerrie Mock, Cessna 180, 1964??

Jerrie Mock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrie_Mock)

3 Point

flybymike
13th Jul 2014, 22:12
And how about Sheila Scott.

( Looks like Carol Vorderman's had some wind taken out of her sails as well.)

Genghis the Engineer
13th Jul 2014, 22:20
So basically, not the youngest, not the first, not in an SEP, not solo - although a glance on her website (http://www.ameliaearhartproject.com/foundation/) shows that it's at least trying to raise some money for a halfway worthy cause (although nowhere could I find anything saying how much money had been raised, and it is easily confused with the old and very respectable "Amelia Earhart foundation").

That she's a reasonably recently qualified PPR/IR (PPL for 4 years and it took her 6 years to obtain it, IR for 1 year), with most of her flying time as a helicopter camera operator, and that her "co-pilot" in an instructor with 6,400hrs TT of which 4,500hrs on type, should not be read as implying that she isn't doing the whole thing herself.

Apart from that, jolly well done her!


Why is it that the only aviation reporting in the Telegraph that's ever accurate is that in the obituaries section?

G

Lord Spandex Masher
13th Jul 2014, 22:31
Well, all you negativos, the headline does say the first woman to circumnavigate the globe in tribute to Amelia Mary Earhart.

It appears that one of the headlines is right after all.

So well done all of you for putting a negative slant on something not many people have achieved.

:rolleyes:

Genghis the Engineer
13th Jul 2014, 22:46
Achievement? A 6,400 hr professional pilot with a newly qualified PPL/IR to help him flew around the world in a state of the art high performance turboprop. The biggest achievement was getting somebody else to pay for it.

I'd rather celebrate the achievements of somebody like Dave Sykes, who got largely ignored by the popular press...

Solo Flight Global (http://www.soloflightglobal.com/)

Or Polly Vacher, who did it solo, in a standard club-spec SEP (okay, I think that she had some bigger fuel tanks in her PA28), and genuinely did it to raise money for charity.

G

On Track
14th Jul 2014, 00:46
If you read Gaby Kennard's book, Solo Woman, you will see that she also flew in tribute to Amelia.

The book makes frequent mention of the 1937 flight and contains several photos of Amelia not long before she disappeared.

The Daily Telegraph sub-headline is actually ambiguous. Either way, it's still wrong.

glendalegoon
14th Jul 2014, 00:58
sorry, not impressed. there would be no headline if the woman was named Frankie heck.

I wonder how much of the time the plane was on autopilot

fujii
14th Jul 2014, 06:44
Thanks On track about the Saratoga. I have seen the Saratoga with Gabby. My mistake.

keebird
14th Jul 2014, 07:04
Jeana Yeager did it in 1986 and didn't even stop for fuel.
Jeana Yeager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeana_Yeager)

Whirlybird
14th Jul 2014, 07:49
Nothing particularly impressive about this at all - at least no more so than if any other person flies round the world. And a fair number of people, both male and female, have done that. If her name wasn't Amelia Earhart it wouldn't even make it to the papers.

(Edited to remove the word 'solo', even that wasn't the case!)

Pirke
14th Jul 2014, 09:03
Are you really pretending the pilot's sex is relevant? I thought we were beyond that kind of discrimination, in the 21st century.

I agree.

And there is no such thing as positive discrimination: what's positive for one group, is negative for another.

Above The Clouds
14th Jul 2014, 09:04
We did around the world in 80 hours and no one even bothered, it was a challenge to the Phileas Fogg around the world in 80 days, never made any headlines, thankfully.

But to compare modern day events to an attempt in 1937 using a twin-engined Lockheed Model 10 Electra is really chalk and cheese comparisons.

Lord Spandex Masher
14th Jul 2014, 11:25
Ok, I get it. It has to be a first, or solo, or without autopilot, or in an old banger, or impress you lot to be an achievement.

At least she finished what she set out to do.

Above The Clouds
14th Jul 2014, 12:07
LSM

I agree its a great achievement for anyone and well done to her however it was achieved.

I am disagreeing with some of the previous comments.

Lord Spandex Masher
14th Jul 2014, 12:14
Not aimed at you ATC:ok:

Katamarino
14th Jul 2014, 16:33
The achievement is fine; although with a turbine aircraft and a professional pilot to fly it for her, I don't see it as much more noteworthy than if she had bought an airline ticket.

Claiming that it's some great achievement, a first for women, and all that tat is however ridiculous and insulting to the people who have actually achieved far more.

LTCTerry
14th Jul 2014, 18:37
Ann Pelegrino flew an Electra around the world in 1967 (1937+30+1967) - significant anniversary, same plane. Linda Finch flew an Electra around the world in 1997 (has it been that long?!). Finch's flight was the 60th anniversary of the first and the 30th anniversary of the second...

A rather large number of people have flown around the world - with or without some memory of Amelia Earhart. Unless you divide things into the "first woman to fly a PC11 around the world after recently learning that she wasn't a relative of a famous pilot," then her flight isn't much more than "cool, I'd like to fly around the world sometime, too."

Just sayin'

Above The Clouds
14th Jul 2014, 19:05
We completed our manned flight around the world in 80 hours successfully 25 years ago, during the subsequent gathering at the Reform Club in London the next challenge was presented.

Who will do it in 80 minutes :ooh:

I do believe the challenge still exists as even the space shuttle took approx. 90 minutes.

Any takers ;)

Sir Niall Dementia
16th Jul 2014, 09:59
I once met Sheila Scott as a lad, she was film star glamorous and I was somewhat star struck.


As a new PPL I flew G-ATOY (Myth Too) I believe G-ATOY was owned by Max Coote at Sywell in those days, that's certainly where I flew her from.


Her Wiki page shows little about her


Sheila Scott - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Scott)


But her autobiography I Must Fly is still available on Amazon and is riveting.


SND

Above The Clouds
16th Jul 2014, 12:10
SND
I once met Sheila Scott


A very impressive Lady with some amazing records in aviation.

Sir Niall Dementia
16th Jul 2014, 14:54
Above The Clouds;


To be totally sexist her aviation records are incredible as were her legs and gorgeous cleavage in a loosely buttoned blouse. I really didn't know what to be most impressed by at the time! (I was only about 14 when I met her)


SND

Pirke
16th Jul 2014, 14:58
Every female looks interesting when you're 14 :D

flybymike
16th Jul 2014, 20:04
I would have been about seventeen, and felt exactly the same way about her.

I've been an admirer of "the older woman" ever since, but then it's stretching credibility a bit these days...