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GWACU2208
6th Apr 2014, 08:14
Hi all

Apologies in advance for this but I have a couple of questions that I know have been asked many times but I am still looking for definitive answers to them.

I have a CAA JAR-FCL SEP(land) licence that expires in June 2016. I have 80 hours flying (45 solo) all on a Cessna 152. Due to increasing costs I am now starting to fly microlights, an Ikarus C42, and at this moment I'm not sure if I will go back to the Cessna any time soon. Therefore, based on this information I ask the following.

1. Do I have to convert my existing JAR licence to the new EASA licence or will it wait until it expires?

2. Should I apply for the NPPL or keep my existing licence and take the 2 year test?

3. Do I log my microlight hours in my existing logbook or should I keep them in a separate logbook?

I have scoured this site and others and tried to read the CAP 804 document but I can't quite put my finger on the right solutions. My new instructor, who has 25+ years experience, has given me some guidance but even he isn't 100% sure!

Any help is appreciated in advance.

Neil

Whopity
6th Apr 2014, 10:35
1. Do I have to convert my existing JAR licence to the new EASA licence or will it wait until it expires?Your JAA licence is now an EASA licence; you don't need to do anything untill it expires then you renew it as a lifetime EASA licence. Any CAA licencing action prior to that date will require the issue ofa new EASA licence at that point. Should I apply for the NPPL or keep my existing licence and take the 2 year test?Thats your choice, bear in mind that if you fly an EASA aircraft you will need an EASA licence. For the sake of a 2 yearly proficiency check, why throw away a licence that has cost you a lot of time and effort!3. Do I log my microlight hours in my existing logbook or should I keep them in a separate logbook?Its your log book, do as you wish. If you are unlikely to ever fill it, why would you want two books?

Jim59
6th Apr 2014, 15:07
I have a CAA JAR-FCL SEP(land) licence that expires in June 2016. I have 80 hours flying (45 solo) all on a Cessna 152. Due to increasing costs I am now starting to fly microlights, an Ikarus C42, and at this moment I'm not sure if I will go back to the Cessna any time soon. Therefore, based on this information I ask the following.

1. Do I have to convert my existing JAR licence to the new EASA licence or will it wait until it expires?The previous answer was incomplete - some JAR licences don't need to be converted until they expire - some do.

If a JAA licence does not include words “Valid for United Kingdom registered aircraft” then your licence is already deemed to be an EASA licence and you will receive a lifetime EASA licence when it is renewed at the end of it’s 5 year life.

If it does include the words above you must convert it before 8th April 2014 to continue to use full privileges or before 8th April 2015 it you are happy to be restricted to the privileges of a LAPL(A) during that last year.

Whopity
6th Apr 2014, 16:33
Any licence that contains the words: “Valid for United Kingdom registered aircraft”is not a JAA licence! It is a National licence

A JAA licence contains the words:By the application of JAR-FCL 1.015(a)(1), the licence holder is entitled to exercise licence pivileges on aircraft registered in any Member State of the Joint Aviation Authority
So my answer was complete and did not introduce red herrings!

Jim59
6th Apr 2014, 18:58
Sorry Whopity you are correct. My comments apply only some CPL and ATPL 'JAA' licences not to PPLs.

GWACU2208
8th Apr 2014, 19:14
Thanks for the response guys.