EASA PPL(A) Night Rating

[Humberprop]

A few quick questions which i'm sure someone will be able to put me straight right away but for some reason i'm struggling to find.

Is there a published syllabus for the EASA PPL(A) Night Rating? If so where?

I have noticed there is one for PPL(H) in FCL-EASA...possible typo meant to cover most PPLs?

Reference SRG 1126, Flying Experience. It requests that student declare they have a minimum of 10 hours dual instrument instruction. Where would this be acquired? All within the PPL course (and maybe inclusive of the Night Rating)?

If a student wishes to complete a Night Rating before sending off for their PPL(A) Licence can they? What is the requirements and where can I find reference to this?

My understanding under JAR is that as long as 25 hour dual and 10 hours solo had been completed (inclusive of exercises 1 -19) this could be done. I have also noted the reference in CAP 804 that an LAPL can complete a Night Rating as long as they have completed exercise 19 in the PPL(A).

Any straight answers appreciated.

[Whopity]

Is there a published syllabus for the EASA PPL(A) Night Rating? If so where?FCL.810 Night rating
(a) Aeroplanes, TMGs, airships.It requests that student declare they have a minimum of 10 hours dual instrument instructionThat applies to Helicopters not Aeroplanes.If a student wishes to complete a Night Rating before sending off for their PPL(A) Licence can they? FCL.810 Night rating(1) If the privileges of an LAPL or a PPL for aeroplanes, TMGs or airships are to be exercised in VFR conditions at night, applicants shall have completed a training course at an ATO.
(2) Before completing the training at night, LAPL holders shall have completed the basic instrument flight training required for the issue of the PPL.

There is nothing to prevent the Night Rating being completed prior to licence application.

[Humberprop]

Thank you.

I am struggling to find that syllabus though, any chance of a link.

I am searching the document below, and the only Night Rating syllabus I am finding is page 267 for PPL(H).

http://easa.europa.eu/agency-measures/docs/agency-decisions/2011/2011-016-R/AMC%20and%20GM%20to%20Part-FCL.pdf

[Whopity]

Wrong document, Try page 43 here (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:311:0001:0193:EN:PDF) Its written into the regulation not the AMC.

[Humberprop]

Cheers, so the theoretical syllabus is whatever the ATO deems appropriate to flying their aircraft in the local area.

[Whopity]

So long as you do 3 hours dual a 1 hour cross country (50km) and 5 solo circuits with a full stop landing. It has never been any different. The helicopter has a lot more considerations at night therefore they have publish a syllabus. The syllabi in the AMC are largely useless in any case, as nothing is quantified, so its always left to the training provider at the end of the day.

[dinsu]

if a lapl needs to fly the 3 hours instrument training before starting the night rating can the 3 hours be flown at night or do they have to be flown during the day?
he would obviously still have to carry out an additional 5 hrs night flying after obtaining the instrument training i assume.

[RTN11]

If it's instrument training, it doesn't matter if it's done day or night.

[Level Attitude]

if a lapl needs to fly the 3 hours instrument training before starting the night
Basic Instrument flight is a requirement of the EASA PPL course but, as far
as I am aware, there is no minimum amount of training required.
(My ref: Part-FCL AMC & GM Page 186)

On this thread people seem to be suggesting a minimum of 3 hours
IF training is required for a PPL and, off forum, I have heard people
say a minimum of 1 hour is required.

Could those who think there is a minimum (time) of IF training required for
a PPL please post a reference.

[BillieBob]

You are correct, there is no minimum amount of instrument flight training required for the issue of a PPL(A). The only requirement is to reach the standard required to execute a 180 deg turn by sole reference to instruments whilst maintaining level flight to within +150ft.

[serhat_gun]

Hello everyone,

I have a question with regards to NIGHT RATING.

I have started my Night rating 9 months ago and finished 3.8 hours.
I need to do solo check and 5 full stop landing.

I was told that '' you need to finish the Night Rating'' within 6 months however I did not find any reference in EASA nor Czech Rebuplic CAA.

I have EASA PPL (A) from Czech Republic.

Thank you very much for your help in advance.

[Whopity]

I was told that '' you need to finish the Night Rating'' within 6 months The purpose of having an ATO is that they train in accordance with an approved "Training Manual" where all this information should be located. I cannot see any 6 month limitation either, so the question is Who told you? and where did they get the information from? Your ATO should be able to answer the question from their Manual.

[MrAverage]

There may or may not be a minimum requirement for IF training in the PPL but I defy anyone to teach it to any meaningful level in less than one hour. Ten minutes of the hour is usually soaked up by taxying, power and pre-take off checks, then another (say) ten minutes for take off, climb and re-join leaves precious little time to develop the correct s & l and turning scan techniques.


IMHO we should have kept the minimum 4 hours that we had back in the day. It certainly saved my life, on my first flight after licence issue in 1982, while 4 Belgians died in the same snow storm that was missing from all forecasts. Their licence had absolutely no IF requirement at the time.