A380 AOG in JFK

[nolimitholdem]

hmmm yet another A380 with a minor problem, this time one needing the small fix-it of a new engine in New York.

Heard they paxed the crew on another carrier to IAD to return to DXB on hmmm, a B777, and are sending out a replacement engine on, let's see, oh yeah, a B777 freighter. Good thing they haven't gotten rid of all the "cripple sevens" yet, or who would rescue that awesome money-spinning machine (over and over and over...)?

Hope they sent out two engines, since it'll be all 380 starting January....

:ok:

[clear to land]

Ahh ex A380- I agree with you re : pp windup-but don't go down the ASR path-people in glass houses etc etc (mountain wave overspeeds anyone?)

[CAYNINE]

Yep more intelligent 777 non input to the forum ho hum!

[falconeasydriver]

Ho hum, so an A380 is AOG, won't be the first or the last...so what, 777's go AOG as well.
I wonder if they can add the engine to the wing bill? mayby something to do with dynamic resonance due to a defect widget or thermrosterthingi?

[Praise Jebus]

Falcon I think you might be referring to the 'Gravimetric Field Displacement Manifold' in the 380. 777's I believe we're the last type to have the old Thermrosterthingi, perhaps someone could correct me. Back in the day it was the unrealiable Flux Capacitor that was at the centre of many an AOG....Oh I long for those days again....

[Dropp the Pilot]

I heard that on the infrequent occasions that an A380 rolls off the assembly line and first exceeds a groundspeed of two knots they play an audio tape of Scotty saying "she cannae take any more, Captain, she's breaking up".

Not very funny but hey, this is a nation that gave Jerry Lewis a Legion of Honour so what can they know about comedy?

They are quite good at building comically inept airplanes though.

[Gulfstreamaviator]

Departing EK 204 ???? a 380 actually asked for descent, on departure to avoid severe CAT, Do not know the outcome, perhaps he returned, but it did strike me as rather ODD he was not willing to go above (IIRC) 280.

glf

[Laker]

Ex380,

Made me laugh with the ASR comments! The "i thought we made a mistake but we actually didn't" reports are a waste of everybody's time.

[pissedoffpilotek]

Isn't EK204 a 777?

[nolimitholdem]

hahah just having some fun with A380 guy, but do you actually deny anything I say is true? No doubt a B777 has had an engine change, but not recently on the JFK apron! Keep telling yourself that thing is even remotely reliable compared to the 99.99% B777...and enjoy the 0255 departure on 203, with the 21 hour block-to-block layover! lol No doubt there will be a B777F to follow now anyway, for the freight, just like LHR...

[Rich8a10]

Another Post Full Of 'mine Is Better Than Yours'. Come On Guys Seriously

[glofish]

Let's gloat some more, it's fun to imagine the red-steaming heads.

So it's down to comparisons again:

Trips to Vulcan with two big and heavy Romulan Warbirds where eight warp-cores can go bezerk versus three smaller Enterprise-like starships with only six warp-cores than can backfire.

Resistance is futile .....

Enjoy your tin cans!

[Gulfstreamaviator]

Re 777, with 20/20 I did not hear the suffix SUPER...... thanks for correction.

glf

[Reinhardt]

"They are quite good at building comically inept airplanes though" Very funny.
Keep insulting people, that's normal here (and then if others get angry as a result, just tell them they have no humor, it's so typical)

Some "comically inept airplanes" :
- Mirage family,
- Falcon business jets (read in FLIGHT about their 7X assessment)
- Airbus family
- ATR (80% of world market)
- Rafale (the one the Royal Navy would enjoy so much)
- Dauphin, Squirrel, Super-Puma, EC135 and other helicopters (still the biggest manufacturer in the world)
- Surface to air missiles SAMP, Mistral, Crotale, Roland, (the ones used to shoot down Tornadoes during the 1st Gulf War)
- Exocet missiles (any memory, RN and USN ?)
- Air-to-air missiles (Magic, MICA)
- ASMP airborne nuclear missile with statoreactor
- Intercontinental ballistic missiles ICBM (one of them was seen offshore US East Coast a couple of years ago, during a very normal and successful test launch)
- and nuclear carrier and submarines to go along with...

all that from a very buoyant industry, +17% on orders last year.

Anyway, you probably never heard of all those items. But others did, and that matters.

[SMT Member]

Well all I know is that on a Boeing either the engines drop off or the rudder has a spout of PMS and goes out of whack. 'Busses crash for different, but equally opportunistic, reasons. Such as shedding the entire tail or driving itself into the sea because its nose got a bit cold.

Still, it beats rowing across the Atlantic



















.... and above else, it pays the bills.

[ironbutt57]

Many moons ago I saw an AN-124 on the cargo ramp in Dubai chartered to fly a very large engine to Australia....seems it was for an EK 777:eek:

[glofish]

Many moons ago I saw an AN-124 on the cargo ramp in Dubai chartered to fly a very large engine to Australia....seems it was for an EK 777

Are you sure? With all the 744s and 77Fs in their fleet?

[Check 'Six']

Circa 1996 first B777 delivery flight.
We managed to get as far as Keflavik as the Roller spat all it's oil out, it was meant to go non stop to Dubai.

Soon after it was chocks on and cowls open for a long while on the trip7.

And a few other interesting tech issues at the time. And then some.

Anyway as a "Super" man myself, I must say that the pictures taken from the trip7, as we overfly are pretty awesome. He he he. :p

Check six

[donpizmeov]

Glofish,

I believe the size of the fan vs the size of the cargo door stopped the 77F and 74F from doing the job. The 77F was designed to carry boxes and 380 luggage wasn't it?

The Don

[scandistralian]

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/9/5/8/0410859.jpg

Really Don? Looks like it fits ok... But having just confirmed with a Boeing techy, the fan case, which is not visible in this photo was specifically designed to be transported in a 747F. Also, as much as I trust the Don's word, Air China seem to think a B747 can carry the GE90-115B; Air China Cargo Co., Ltd (http://www.airchinacargo.com/en/index.php?section=0-0149-0151-0164-0236&id=1310374194)

[J.L.Seagull]

That picture is the core of the GE90. The engine was designed to be shipped 'split'. Aan ex-engineer (from EK) who is now cockpit crew, I can confirm that I have personally loaded a fan case on a 777F.

Glofish: The An-124 was probably (I'm guessing here) for the RR T800 to carry the #1 engine for A6-EMM, waaaaay before EK had 777F's.

The last 777 engine change done in Oz was around a year ago, and EK used its own 777F to transport the engine.

[donpizmeov]

Sorry bout that. I thought the BNE engine was sent as a quick change unit, that's with fan attached, on the AN124. Looks like I was wrong again. Huge motor in any case. Still impressed on how much two of them can lift.

The Don.

[ironbutt57]

was parked right next to it, it was indeed a complete QC engine, the AN 124 had shucked a majority of it's tires on arrival and was itself temp grounded...And yes the EK triple in BNE was due to be the reciepient as communicated by the DNATA supervisor handling my 757PF at the time

[recceguy]

They are quite good at building comically inept airplanes though
Thank to Reinhardt for answering to that moron. Yeap, it seems that on pprune some insults are for free.
Dropp, do you have an idea of how many MD11 finished upside down on landing (or at least with a broken gear ?) ? how the 737 rudders had an habit of overcompensating, thus crashing three aircraft in a succession (but nobody ever considered grounding them, how strange (and poor passengers)
Do you have any idea of the aerodynamic glitches which brought down a prototype of the new Gulfstream 650 last yeatr, sadly killing all on board ? and with that US manufacturer answering the NTSB that "the drive containing telemetry traces fo the accident had been accidentally (!) discarded in the trash by an employee !" so yes, comically inept as you said.

[nolimitholdem]

Not to interrupt the bitch-slapping, but did that thing ever get out of JFK before the storm hit? Last I was told it was having a second replacement engine shipped in, for some reason. :D

[Poire]

We should have a permanent forum titled A380 AOG, perhaps :E

[White Knight]

NLH - It's out and about way before Sandy. EDD is the reg.

[nolimitholdem]

WK, ah ok thanks. But I have since heard that after EDD returned to DXB, they did indeed have to replace a different engine for the same reason the first one failed. (Something to do with the HP section going supernova and melting important bits. Hey I'm not an engineer.)

And to be fair, would seem to be an issue with the engines, not Airbus's fault per se...