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IFLY_INDIGO
17th Jul 2012, 05:17
I have observed myself and tell it confidently that there is shift in human psychology on approach. As I get closer to ground on approach there is shift in my readiness, consciousness about go around. At 1000ft to land, I am fully spring loaded to go-around if it warrants. At 500ft, not so much ready and by 300-200 ft to land I am totally going for landing, going around is no option that I remember.
In simulator, things are different. I am more inclined to go-around to show the instructor/examiner my readiness, since I know it won't spoil my fuel burn record or damage the aircraft.
I wonder if such shift be stopped by some conscious practice?

Check Airman
17th Jul 2012, 07:11
I have observed myself and tell it confidently that there is shift in human psychology on approach. As I get closer to ground on approach there is shift in my readiness, consciousness about go around. At 1000ft to land, I am fully spring loaded to go-around if it warrants. At 500ft, not so much ready and by 300-200 ft to land I am totally going for landing, going around is no option that I remember.
In simulator, things are different. I am more inclined to go-around to show the instructor/examiner my readiness, since I know it won't spoil my fuel burn record or damage the aircraft.
I wonder if such shift be stopped by some conscious practice?

I'd say you should certainly keep that "GA readiness" all the way down to the ground- at least until the reversers are out.

Why would you commit to landing at 200ft? You may keep your excellent fuel burn record, but at the expense of your accident record.:ugh: Your choice.

jeroen79
17th Jul 2012, 07:53
I wonder if such shift be stopped by some conscious practice? Sure.
Determine what standards you find important and remind yourself of them when on approach ("I can still go around and I am not going to force this landing for the sake of my fuel record.") and when confronted with your fuel burn record ("This record may not be perfect but I did not cut any corners.").

IFLY_INDIGO
17th Jul 2012, 08:44
That was the whole point. that the committment is automatic. I would certainly want to keep the option of go-around open till touchdown. But there is a involuntary shift in awareness I noticed closer to ground. I am sure it is a common phenomena and others must have found a way to solve it.

Microburst2002
18th Jul 2012, 06:02
I have thad he same feeling, but I have never had a situation that required a go around and even though I landed, so I am not sure of what I would do...

I think you worry too much. If one day you bounce badly or you come to high and fast and are etring the runway before touch down, or a gust moves the runway away beneath you, you will just go around.

Surely, when during The final stage of approach there is some circumstance making you think that the landing could not go as well as any oter, you will be alert with all options open. If everything is fine, then you, I and I dare say everybody is landing minded

de facto
18th Jul 2012, 06:13
I wonder if such shift be stopped by some conscious practice?

Crews tend to continue a poorly managed landing (ie bounce/long) because they have not been sufficiently trained to go around at low level and they feel being close to ground is safer..(consciently or unconsciently).
Balk landing techniques are not trained sufficiently and results in landing mindset in most cases.

Basil
18th Jul 2012, 08:23
Remember that you're in a much better energy situation in a GA than a T/O.
You're already up in the sky and have a lot of speed.
The trick is remembering to level off at the check alt :ok:

A37575
18th Jul 2012, 14:55
Funny about all this. When I was learning to fly on Tiger Moths I never seemed to worry about psychological mind shifts as I descended for landing. In fact my instructor never warned me about this sort of modern medical stuff.

I simply landed the aircraft and if it bounced badly or I got a red light from the tower telling me to go around I just did it without thinking of how to switch my psychological state of mind. All these computers on todays aircraft frazzle your mind and then before you know about it you start bleating on Pprune about little green men and start worrying yourself about non-existent problems. :E

de facto
19th Jul 2012, 00:55
Aint we all glad there are gifted pilots like you around..:rolleyes: