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OneTwoTree
24th Jun 2012, 11:38
Good day everyone,

Just a quick question regarding the 744.

What parameters trigger the ENG 1,2,3,4 FAIL message to show up?

I am assuming the EEC's compare the EPR, N1, N2 and others and then determine that one engine is toast when they drop beyond a certain point.
Any idea what these figures are?

Thanks for your input!

OneTwoTree

TopSwiss 737
24th Jun 2012, 12:29
Standing by to be corrected, but this is what my FCOM 2 (General Electric CF6-80) says... Might be different for different engines.

It does not directly give the exact trigger parameters as such, but a bit of reading gives the following:

ENG 1, 2, 3, 4 FAIL
Condition: One of these occurs:
•An engine failure
•An engine flameout


The explanation of the auto-relight feature says the following:

"A flameout is detected when a rapid decrease in N2 occurs, or N2 is less
than idle RPM."

By the way, the ENG 1, 2, 3, 4 FAIL EICAS Caution and it's associated beeper are inhibited on the ground, until lift-off occurs.

SMOC
25th Jun 2012, 13:02
For the Roller on the 744

ENG FAIL _

N3 less than 50%,
Oil Pressure less than 25 psi,
Fuel Control Switch ON.
GCB is open,
and Airplane in Air Mode.

737Jock
25th Jun 2012, 21:27
What parameters trigger the ENG 1,2,3,4 FAIL message to show up?

Volcanic ash clouds!!!;) (>4mg volcanic ash per cubic meter)

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