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From the AFAP Jobs page.
J31/32* Flight Crews*
A new consumer airline is actively expanding into the Australian regular public transport (RPT) and charter operations. With a fleet of Jetstream series aircraft (31/32) type aircraft our bases include Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
We are currently seeking J31/32 flight crew for positions within the next few months.
Australian Airline Transport License
J31/32* command rating or similar type.
Current Australian Command Instrument Rating (1 renewals)
Minimum of 3000 hours Total Aeronautical Experience
Minimum of 1000 hours as Pilot in Command
Valid Australian Class 1 Medical**
Australian Airline Transport or Commercial Licence
Minimum of 1000 hours Total Aeronautical Experience
Minimum of 100 hours Multi Engine Experience
Current Australian Command Instrument Rating (2 renewals)
Valid Australian Class 1 Medical.
Please submit your application of Interest via pacificstaraviation@<hidden>
Anyone know who they are? And why only 1 renewal for Capts when FO's require 2?
20th Apr 2012, 11:07
The gmail is a turn off!
20th Apr 2012, 11:28
A new consumer airline What is a consumer airline? Or put another way, what is a non-consumer airline?
The gmail is a turn off! So they cannot afford a recruitment company and they are not organised enough yet to buy a domain name. That takes at least $50 and 20 minutes to arrange.
Best of luck.:ooh:
20th Apr 2012, 16:02
20th Apr 2012, 22:49
20th Apr 2012, 23:00
Only 1 CIR renewal for the Capt, but 2 for the FO???
AND they dony have to be ME ratings either, bonus!
Makes sense I suppose, in someone's mind....
21st Apr 2012, 00:32
Pacific Star? A Jetstar regional?;)
Still single beat me to it!:ok:
21st Apr 2012, 01:03
JetStar Regional with all money and risk born by Vietnamese business tie ups......
21st Apr 2012, 05:35
Seems to be almost a carbon copy of the Skytrans ad further down the AFAP page. Looks dodgy...
21st Apr 2012, 07:58
I think looking at there requirements we can all get a sense, but I did see a J31 in san diego a week ago with a star on the tail that had recently been painted if it's any relation..
21st Apr 2012, 10:22
So 19 seat aircraft are going to take on 35 seat aircraft over routes that are already serviced by established airlines................mmmmmm............sounds like a recipe for financial disaster. :hmm:
21st Apr 2012, 10:56
Lovett, do you know something we don't? 35 seat?
Al E. Vator
22nd Apr 2012, 00:19
I would like to fly from Bankstown, Moorabbin and Archerfield. They are nearer the places I need to go to. A J31/32 service whilst slower in the air, would definitely save me total travel time (point to point).
I would support this without question.
I also wouldn't have to put up with rotten airports such as MEL and SYD, outrageous parking expenses (whereas I think it's free at the GA airports), long lines at security checkpoints and ATC delays.
Overall if this is what is being planned, it's a sound concept that is long overdue.
22nd Apr 2012, 01:22
@<hidden> - It sounds like, with the exception of Brisbane, they would be competing against Rex flying the Saab 340 with around 35 seats. The Jetstream is a smaller, less comfortable aircraft that I believe dont have either toilets or flight attendants for cabin service. (Do the Aeropelican Jetstreams have toilets? Their website didnt mention them and I hear they are an option with certain fitouts of the aircraft).
22nd Apr 2012, 01:39
Yes, the Pelican J's have dunnies. No Hostie. Didn't the Impulse FOs play Hostie on the 1900s?
The GMail account is (obviously? surely.) a strategy to help keep some secrecy about who they actually are. And why would you use a recruitment agency for pilot recruitment? Every effort I have seen along those lines has ended in disaster. Non-specialist reecruitment agencies aren't able to sort out bullshit resumes like an experienced pilot can, and recruitment agencies always seem to put the bullshitters up and bin the good guys (who might not look as good on paper).
Interesting times. Whoever they are, they would (surely?) have maintenance sorted out and an AOC application in, so "somebody" knows "something".
22nd Apr 2012, 02:13
I always use Gmail or Hotmail temporary emails for recruitment. Otherwise the 2,000 plus unqualified applicants also insist on ringing you up to "check on the progress of their job application."
Mach E Avelli
22nd Apr 2012, 06:16
Conspiracy theory: It's an existing operator trying to find out which of his faithful pilots are ready to jump ship. The J31/32 bit could be a smokescreen, though if that's the case they coulda used something a bit more attractive.
22nd Apr 2012, 10:44
Interesting to see Sydney given the current slot situation against regionals and ga..
Sounds like Plummet Airlines !!:eek:
23rd Apr 2012, 02:48
Excellent,......that really is paranoid but as I always say, "Just because I am paranoid doesn't mean people aren't really out to get me". :E:E:E
23rd Apr 2012, 12:37
Thats as bad as saying, just because i am paranoid doesn't mean my employee's aren't looking for greener pastures.
Going with mach for now, its a conspiracy.
Percentage based, there wouldn't be that many J31/32 qual captains in the country.
Sounds like the employer is digging for an infidel.
24th Apr 2012, 01:55
Origin Pacific - 3x J31, 3 x J32 - gone
O'Connor Airlines - 3x J32 - gone
Tasair 1x J31 - gone
Aeroplelican 5x J32 - still going but losing money on routes in competition with other airlines.
Why would anybody in their right mind start an operation with a 18/19 seat plane that makes a lot of noise, is uncomfortable, can't go far and has no flight attendant.
Unless they are able to offer extremely low fairs and a schedule that suits a lot people, they are not going to make money. The running costs of a J31/32 compared to the J41 or even a SAAB or an ATR are not that much different.
24th Apr 2012, 07:48
Add Flight-West to the list.
16th Aug 2012, 02:23
Did anyone end up applying to this mysterious group? If so, has anyone heard back and have details, like interviews dates, start dates, routes, the actual company trading name etc? :hmm:
16th Aug 2012, 06:02
How about Aero Pelican Aeropelican Air Services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeropelican_Air_Services) which has merged with Brindabella Airlines and has a controlling stake Brindabella Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brindabella_Airlines)?
And this notice:
Aeropelican and Brindabella Airlines Increase Charter Capacity | Brindabella Airlines (http://www.brindabellaairlines.com.au/news/28-05-12/charter-capacity-increase)
20th Aug 2012, 02:04
MG, not wanting to offend, but why would an established company with a dedicated recruitment procedure suddenly use a gmail account with no reference to company name for applicants?
20th Aug 2012, 04:23
I was either working for or corresponding with each of these entities (Pelican and the mystery airline) at the time this thread started.
Although I don't know who the mystery group is, I am fairly certain it isn't Brindapelican.