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chopper2004
21st Nov 2011, 07:45
London 2012 Olympics: Snipers in helicopters during Games | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2063920/London-2012-Olympics-Snipers-helicopters-Games.html#ixzz1eHzJpjIn)

Then again take a leaf out of the LAPD ASTRO Division Homeland Security as in their snipers on Tyler outboard mount equipped AS350B2.

Pontius Navigator
21st Nov 2011, 08:52
If it's on the ground in cabbage kit it's Army.

If it's in the air it must be RAF.

Well done that messenger of truth and accuracy.

Willard Whyte
21st Nov 2011, 10:02
Wouldn't they be better employed on the GB shooting team?



Amusing to see a Harpoon captioned as a SAM.

Pontius Navigator
21st Nov 2011, 10:07
I thought team GB could only use BB guns :}

Halton Brat
21st Nov 2011, 10:27
I have drawn my Lee-Enfield #4 rifle (iron sights) from the armoury & have popped along to Specsavers.

I am now declaring myself Combat Ready & able to dispense sudden death & carnage from the sky.

Where do I sign up?

HB

ShyTorque
21st Nov 2011, 10:34
Let's hope they remember to track and balance the helicopter before the day comes.

sitigeltfel
21st Nov 2011, 11:32
I would have thought that the gun in the nose of an Apache would do the job :E

Peter Carter
21st Nov 2011, 12:33
I was thinking A10 myself..

Willard Whyte
21st Nov 2011, 12:36
Do the Spam's have any AC-130s they could lend us for a couple of months?

pulse1
21st Nov 2011, 15:08
If it's in the air it must be RAF.

Not necessarily from what I hear.

Pontius Navigator
21st Nov 2011, 17:40
pulse, you missed the sacrasm.

The meja invariably identify anything in cabbage kit as Army which is why the RAF has a large ROYAL AIR FORCE on its kit and why they managed to get FRESCO tabards with the name on them too.

The corollary is, as I said, if it flies . . .

Get it?

Green Flash
21st Nov 2011, 18:23
Deliberatly missing the point;) - I would have thought that there would be plenty of tall structures around the Olympic park to accomodate a legion of long haired blokes with long barreled musketry? Mind you, Harpoon might be usefull at the sailing and the rowing!

NutLoose
21st Nov 2011, 18:32
What is the range from the London eye, and how long will it take for the sniper to get up to the top on a normal punters trip as I cannot see the Uk PLC paying for the whole thing let alone a helicopter

STANDTO
21st Nov 2011, 18:35
Methinks someone somewhere is getting a tad carried away here. The protection of the games is a policing operation, rather than a military one. I'll have CAP and SAM cover as a proportionate response at a push, but what can't be covered by police marksmen in terms of rifle cover will be pretty scant. CAP612 if I recall correctly specifically prohibits the firing of a weapon or the launching of any munitions from an aircraft.

If it isn't a good idea for the cops to do it during peacetime I can't seem how it suddenly becomes a good idea for the mil to do it, regardless of skill level.

cazatou
21st Nov 2011, 18:56
STANDTO

They did not use armed POLICE to assault the Embassy in London where hostages had been taken. HMG used the SAS be to carry out the assault because they had been trained specifically for such events.

STANDTO
21st Nov 2011, 19:10
I know that. However, it required a very definite handover of command, and back. MACP is there to be utilised, it is just a bit more complex than the article suggests.

cazatou
21st Nov 2011, 19:46
Trouble is that most Countries in the World will be sending Teams - and most Countries have their fair share of Political Malcontents. One only has to add into the equation Fundamentalist Religious and Political aspirations manipulated by Bigots to gain a sense of the problems facing those planning for the event.

Willard Whyte
21st Nov 2011, 20:12
They did not use armed POLICE to assault the Embassy in London where hostages had been taken. HMG used the SAS be to carry out the assault because they had been trained specifically for such events.

To be fair the Prime Minister at the time was, apart from Winnie, the only one since WWII with any balls.

I have no doubt that a crack team of outreach councilors, or somesuch, will be on hand to engage and empathise with terrorists and hostage takers during the Olympics.

Personally I'd contract out security to Mossad.

Mad-Air
21st Nov 2011, 20:13
Quite interesting none of you have thought about what helo's the Royal Navy currently fly.....:ok:

500N
21st Nov 2011, 20:22
Willard

Agree re Maggie. Would any current Politician have the balls to sign over power to the military and give the "go" today ?


Re "I have no doubt that a crack team of outreach councilors, or somesuch, will be on hand to engage and empathise with terrorists and hostage takers during the Olympics."

Don't forget the NGO's and all the other do gooders who will want to be involved providing life sustaining support to them.


"Personally I'd contract out security to Mossad."

How about SAS for the assault and Mossad to follow up and dispatch any others that were involved in the planning etc. After all, we need a "new" bunch of "heroes" who were "the 2nd person on the balcony":O

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TheWizard
21st Nov 2011, 21:13
Nah, that's quite normal.:}

switch_on_lofty
21st Nov 2011, 22:51
Maybe some snipers of this variety would be used to firing from the air:
Ross Kemp - Maritime Sniper Team - YouTube

About 3:30 in you can see the Bootie describing some of his kit.

Just a shame it's not a lynx in the video really.

St Johns Wort
22nd Nov 2011, 07:33
Further evidence, as if it were needed, that getting rid of the Harrier was Bonkers!:suspect:

Jumping_Jack
22nd Nov 2011, 08:19
Police 'marksmen'....now there's a worry. I've seen these folks playing at Bisley. 'All the gear, no idea' was forefront in my mind. :rolleyes:

Pontius Navigator
22nd Nov 2011, 08:56
From what I have been told the contingency for helo mounted snipers is valid and would be effective. I suggest further discussion at this time would be inapropriate, just wait until a proper release or a media leak.

farmpilot
22nd Nov 2011, 10:19
During the soccer World Cup in SA the police very nearly shot a paraglider who attempted to land inside the restricted zone in Cape Town. By all accounts the finger was on the trigger......