neville_nobody
21st Jul 2011, 12:23
It looks like Boeing are going to keep flogging a 1960's designed aeroplane well into the 21st century. Nothing like progress I guess....
Boeing Averts (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-20/boeing-averts-heart-attack-order-loss-as-airbus-breaks-grip-on-american.html)
Boeing Co. (BA) is taking a page from Airbus SAS’s playbook seven months after the European aircraft maker began reaping record sales by upgrading its workhorse jet.
The U.S. planemaker won an order for 200 single-aisle jets yesterday from American Airlines, with half of its jets updated variants of its latest 737 airliner to follow Airbus down the route of new engines. Airbus took home 260 orders, in the biggest-ever industry deal.
Boeing’s decision ends months of speculation about whether it would upgrade its 737 or pick the more expensive option of a complete redesign that can cost more than $10 billion. Airbus unveiled its A320neo in December, and has won more than 1,000 orders or commitments to make it the fastest selling jet ever.
“This could have been a catastrophe for Boeing,” said Richard Aboulafia, vice president of the Teal Group, a Fairfax, Virginia-based aviation consulting firm. “Boeing recognized this as the heart-attack moment that it was.”
The A320neo is slated for delivery in 2015. Boeing said its re-engined jet will enter service in “mid-decade” and reach American in 2018. Directors will vote on the matter next month, and sales will start “this fall,” Boeing said.
Like the current 737, the new variant will have one engine option only, the Leap-X power plant built by CFM International, a joint venture between General Electric Co. (GE) and Safran SA (SAF) of France. The neo, which stands for “new engine option,” offers an alternative engine made by Pratt & Whitney.
Stock Surges
Boeing rose $1.54, or 2.2 percent, to $72.07, while European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co., the parent of Airbus, rose 86 cents, or 3.6 percent, to 24.79 euros in Paris trading.
With American poised to rejuvenate its fleet, Chicago-based Boeing managed to avert an upset by a carrier that had bought only U.S. jets since 1987.
Boeing decided to revamp the 737 after hitting a “stumbling block” in the effort to build an all-new jet, its preferred choice, Jim Albaugh, the commercial airplanes chief, said yesterday in an interview. While the technology for a new jet is available, it wasn’t clear that Boeing could achieve high-volume output to permit the 2020 launch that carriers were demanding, he said.
“It came down to talking to customers, and when we talked to them about the prospect of a new airplane pushing out to the right, it became pretty apparent there was a bias to do something now, to do the new engine,” Albaugh said.
As recently as last month, Albaugh said at the Paris Air Show that customers were willing to wait for “something more revolutionary.”
Boeing had plenty of time to decide, Albaugh said at the time, echoing repeated comments by executives that they favored an all-new jet ready by decade’s end. He said yesterday that the new plane now will shift “well into the next decade.”
‘We Love Competition’
Airbus also spent months studying the feasibility of re- engining. Both companies have struggled to maintain multiple programs, with Airbus still working to improve output of its A380 superjumbo and keeping its A350 wide-body jet on target for a 2013 introduction. Boeing is more than three years late on its 787 Dreamliner, and its latest 747 is also behind schedule.
“We love competition, and the fact that we have the neo on the market and they have their re-engining means that the competition will continue without dramatic differences,” Airbus sales chief, John Leahy, said in a telephone interview. “An all-new plane offer would not be stabilizing.”
Airbus has said it doesn’t expect to have the technology for an all-new narrow-body jet until the middle of next decade.
Fan Size
Boeing’s overhaul concept had earlier envisioned engines with 70-inch fans, up from 61 inches on the newest 737, and would have forced the planemaker to raise the landing gear and strengthen the wing. Engineers went back to work with engine makers to study 65- to 66-inch fans that would be more efficient and prompt fewer changes to the plane. The A320 sits further off the ground, making larger engines easier to fit.
Success in the single-aisle market is essential for both manufacturers because the segment represents the largest portion of the civil aviation industry.“something more revolutionary.”
Boeing estimates that narrow-body planes, which typically seat between 110 and 200 passengers, will make up as much as 70 percent of the market in two decades. Airbus introduced its A320 in the late 1980s and built its success on the jet, becoming industry leader in 2003.
Both companies are increasing production of single-aisle jets to meet demand, and Airbus and Boeing are sold out for several years. The 737 costs about $80 million, and an A320 is about $5 million more, though customers typically get discounts.
Old Fleet
American’s order will help retire some of the oldest jets in U.S. fleets. In 2010, its planes averaged 15 years of age, tied with Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) for the oldest among the six biggest U.S. carriers. The new jets would be 45 percent more fuel efficient than Boeing’s MD-80s for each seat flown a mile, American said. The MD-80s average more than 20 years of age.
“To the great credit of both of these manufacturers, when we approached them about not doing a split deal, but both deals, they both saw the merits in it and were extremely cooperative, great partners in getting it done,” said Vasu Raja, American’s managing director for corporate planning.
The appeal of new engines that promise efficiency gains of as much as 15 percent became evident at the Paris Air Show, the world’s biggest industry exhibition. Airbus won more than 600 orders or commitments for its A320neo, all from existing buyers. The order inflow eclipsed Boeing, which managed to sign up only a fraction of that number for its 737.
‘Neo Dominance’
“What is regrettable is that it took an established Boeing customer to convince them that a response to the neo was needed in the near term,” said Michel Merluzeau, managing partner at Seattle-based consultant G2 Solutions. “Boeing might have been able to put a dent in the neo dominance in the first half of this year had it committed to a competing solution.”
Delta Air Lines Inc. is shopping for as many as 200 more fuel-efficient aircraft to replace its aging fleet. United Continental Holdings Inc. may also be looking for new jets.
“This will help Boeing get the momentum back as the battleground opens for these mega-U.S. airline orders,” said Paul Sheridan, head of risk analysis at London-based aviation consultant Ascend. “It’s great for airlines. They can negotiate pretty good deals.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Andrea Rothman in Paris at [email protected]; Susanna Ray in Seattle at [email protected]
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Benedikt Kammel at [email protected]; Ed Dufner at [email protected]
Boeing Averts (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-20/boeing-averts-heart-attack-order-loss-as-airbus-breaks-grip-on-american.html)
Boeing Co. (BA) is taking a page from Airbus SAS’s playbook seven months after the European aircraft maker began reaping record sales by upgrading its workhorse jet.
The U.S. planemaker won an order for 200 single-aisle jets yesterday from American Airlines, with half of its jets updated variants of its latest 737 airliner to follow Airbus down the route of new engines. Airbus took home 260 orders, in the biggest-ever industry deal.
Boeing’s decision ends months of speculation about whether it would upgrade its 737 or pick the more expensive option of a complete redesign that can cost more than $10 billion. Airbus unveiled its A320neo in December, and has won more than 1,000 orders or commitments to make it the fastest selling jet ever.
“This could have been a catastrophe for Boeing,” said Richard Aboulafia, vice president of the Teal Group, a Fairfax, Virginia-based aviation consulting firm. “Boeing recognized this as the heart-attack moment that it was.”
The A320neo is slated for delivery in 2015. Boeing said its re-engined jet will enter service in “mid-decade” and reach American in 2018. Directors will vote on the matter next month, and sales will start “this fall,” Boeing said.
Like the current 737, the new variant will have one engine option only, the Leap-X power plant built by CFM International, a joint venture between General Electric Co. (GE) and Safran SA (SAF) of France. The neo, which stands for “new engine option,” offers an alternative engine made by Pratt & Whitney.
Stock Surges
Boeing rose $1.54, or 2.2 percent, to $72.07, while European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co., the parent of Airbus, rose 86 cents, or 3.6 percent, to 24.79 euros in Paris trading.
With American poised to rejuvenate its fleet, Chicago-based Boeing managed to avert an upset by a carrier that had bought only U.S. jets since 1987.
Boeing decided to revamp the 737 after hitting a “stumbling block” in the effort to build an all-new jet, its preferred choice, Jim Albaugh, the commercial airplanes chief, said yesterday in an interview. While the technology for a new jet is available, it wasn’t clear that Boeing could achieve high-volume output to permit the 2020 launch that carriers were demanding, he said.
“It came down to talking to customers, and when we talked to them about the prospect of a new airplane pushing out to the right, it became pretty apparent there was a bias to do something now, to do the new engine,” Albaugh said.
As recently as last month, Albaugh said at the Paris Air Show that customers were willing to wait for “something more revolutionary.”
Boeing had plenty of time to decide, Albaugh said at the time, echoing repeated comments by executives that they favored an all-new jet ready by decade’s end. He said yesterday that the new plane now will shift “well into the next decade.”
‘We Love Competition’
Airbus also spent months studying the feasibility of re- engining. Both companies have struggled to maintain multiple programs, with Airbus still working to improve output of its A380 superjumbo and keeping its A350 wide-body jet on target for a 2013 introduction. Boeing is more than three years late on its 787 Dreamliner, and its latest 747 is also behind schedule.
“We love competition, and the fact that we have the neo on the market and they have their re-engining means that the competition will continue without dramatic differences,” Airbus sales chief, John Leahy, said in a telephone interview. “An all-new plane offer would not be stabilizing.”
Airbus has said it doesn’t expect to have the technology for an all-new narrow-body jet until the middle of next decade.
Fan Size
Boeing’s overhaul concept had earlier envisioned engines with 70-inch fans, up from 61 inches on the newest 737, and would have forced the planemaker to raise the landing gear and strengthen the wing. Engineers went back to work with engine makers to study 65- to 66-inch fans that would be more efficient and prompt fewer changes to the plane. The A320 sits further off the ground, making larger engines easier to fit.
Success in the single-aisle market is essential for both manufacturers because the segment represents the largest portion of the civil aviation industry.“something more revolutionary.”
Boeing estimates that narrow-body planes, which typically seat between 110 and 200 passengers, will make up as much as 70 percent of the market in two decades. Airbus introduced its A320 in the late 1980s and built its success on the jet, becoming industry leader in 2003.
Both companies are increasing production of single-aisle jets to meet demand, and Airbus and Boeing are sold out for several years. The 737 costs about $80 million, and an A320 is about $5 million more, though customers typically get discounts.
Old Fleet
American’s order will help retire some of the oldest jets in U.S. fleets. In 2010, its planes averaged 15 years of age, tied with Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) for the oldest among the six biggest U.S. carriers. The new jets would be 45 percent more fuel efficient than Boeing’s MD-80s for each seat flown a mile, American said. The MD-80s average more than 20 years of age.
“To the great credit of both of these manufacturers, when we approached them about not doing a split deal, but both deals, they both saw the merits in it and were extremely cooperative, great partners in getting it done,” said Vasu Raja, American’s managing director for corporate planning.
The appeal of new engines that promise efficiency gains of as much as 15 percent became evident at the Paris Air Show, the world’s biggest industry exhibition. Airbus won more than 600 orders or commitments for its A320neo, all from existing buyers. The order inflow eclipsed Boeing, which managed to sign up only a fraction of that number for its 737.
‘Neo Dominance’
“What is regrettable is that it took an established Boeing customer to convince them that a response to the neo was needed in the near term,” said Michel Merluzeau, managing partner at Seattle-based consultant G2 Solutions. “Boeing might have been able to put a dent in the neo dominance in the first half of this year had it committed to a competing solution.”
Delta Air Lines Inc. is shopping for as many as 200 more fuel-efficient aircraft to replace its aging fleet. United Continental Holdings Inc. may also be looking for new jets.
“This will help Boeing get the momentum back as the battleground opens for these mega-U.S. airline orders,” said Paul Sheridan, head of risk analysis at London-based aviation consultant Ascend. “It’s great for airlines. They can negotiate pretty good deals.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Andrea Rothman in Paris at [email protected]; Susanna Ray in Seattle at [email protected]
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Benedikt Kammel at [email protected]; Ed Dufner at [email protected]