flying to ROI - GAR form

[Camp Freddie]

Hi,

Flying to Ireland (cork) this week from a non designated UK airfield, so doing the flight plan and the UK GAR form,

I think I need to send the GAR form with 12 hours notice to UK customs/border agency/police AND to Irish police responsible for cork, also with 12 hours notice

On return I think it's the same deal?

But The Irish also have there own GAR form, not sure when to send this ?

Any help/guidance gratefully received, a/c is G reg helicopter <8000kg

Regards

CF

[jollyrog]

UK Border Agency have no interest in your flight, as it's within the Common Travel Area. Customs have an interest in the return leg only, so they'll need a GAR for that bit. In practice, UKBA & Customs are at the same email address now, so one GAR serves all.

You need to send a GAR with 12 hours notice to the UK police force appropriate to the aerodrome you're departing from.

Cork is an entry airport for Ireland. You don't need to notify the Garda in advance of your arrival, but the airport operator will want to know about you for PPR. The easiest way to achieve that is to email the UK GAR to Cork Airport Operations, but that's not a legal requirement, just a convenience.

You don't need to complete an Irish GAR.

[sammypilot]

Weston Airport, Dublin, also advise on their website that there is now a requirement to inform Irish Customs of the flight, crew and passengers if arriving from outside the Irish Republic. They quote that details should be sent to [email protected]. This I believe is a fairly recent requirement but well worth looking at Weston website to get the full picture.

[jollyrog]

Weston Airport, Dublin, also advise on their website that there is now a requirement to inform Irish Customs of the flight

Please don't confuse the issue. Weston isn't an approved port (port of entry). He said he was going to Cork.

[dublinpilot]

Jollyrog has it exactly right (which is why I didn't comment before). Weston is a different category to Cork.

And there is no such thing as an Irish GAR. There is a form similar to a GAR whch is used by certain airports (Weston for example) by agreement with their local customs office to help them meet their committments to customs. But its use if far from universal.

But as Jollyrog said, the original poster asked about Cork, and his answer in relation to Cork is precisely correct.

[nouseforaname]

You don't need PPR for Cork. You have to be on a flightplane to enter controlled airpspace in Ireland VFR, IFR or whatever. Make sure you file one prior to getting going because they can be really anal about it (internal flights this is). Couple useful numbers for you if not using AfPex might be AIS (flight plan crowd) in Shannon

Tel. +353 (0) 61 703730 and the handeling agent for small planes/choppers in Cork I think is manditory but could be wrong South Aer +353 (0) 21 4888488. They won't stick you to the wall with fee's they are pretty good......

And don't forget to close your flightplan with whoever if landing in an off airport location or a sea-king will turn up and you look like a right k**b it happened to me.:D