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johnnychips
24th Jun 2011, 22:17
I can't find DS1 thread so I thought I'd put this up:
1. Any news? Everything's gone so quiet since the news of the 19-year old's proposed AMS route.
2. What's the flight to Lourdes operated by ZT (Zambesi Airways?!) tomorrow?
Mods please delete if I've messed up.
BOAC4ME
24th Jun 2011, 22:23
Hi Johnnychips, ZT is Titan Airways, they do the aforementioned Lourdes trips on behalf of a specialist tour op most years ex DSA. :ok:
TANGO100
23rd Jul 2011, 10:03
Has anyone any news on the appointment of a new MD at Doncaster?
Teevee
25th Jul 2011, 09:42
Airport now closed ... anyone know any more?
Notam issued. Aerodrome closed due aircraft accident.
idlejack
25th Jul 2011, 10:32
From the airport website
Aircraft Incident - Monday 25th July 2011
Following an incident involving a light aircraft this morning, the runway is currently closed, though is expected to reopen shortly.
idlejack
25th Jul 2011, 13:03
Following an incident involving a light aircraft this morning, the runway has now been reopened.
ryansf
25th Jul 2011, 21:07
Airport now closed ... anyone know any more?
Oo be careful how you word things - I bet some people were jumping for joy upon first reading that statement! ;)
In seriousness though, the undercarriage of a light aircraft collapsed and a couple of flights were cancelled/bussed to another airport.
Bad News
HiAir website HiAir (http://hiairscheduled.t83.net/#/bookings/4549912771) is now stating that the launch of there daily Jetsteam 31 operation from Doncaster-Sheffield to Amsterdam has been delayed until spring 2012. Hi Air were due to commence operations from September 5th for a 6 week trial period.
Nothing has been reported on the airports website as yet.
johnnychips
27th Aug 2011, 23:47
Don't think that's a surprise to anybody at all!
Any news on rumours that Wizz were supposed to be transferring flights to EMA?
TimmyW
28th Aug 2011, 13:46
The Amsterdam route will never get going.
Wizz have released a winter schedule that is an improvement on last winter at DSA, and have started loading next summers offerings as well, so I see no evidence of them going to EMA. If such a move did happen however, it would probably be the beginning of the end for DSA.
Thomson have a much reduced offering for next year, and FlyBe have cut back Belfast flights compared to what DSA is used to, and no new airlines even on the grape vine.
L'aviateur
19th Sep 2011, 20:37
This Hi-Air is registered at a residential address in Lincoln, along with a number of other businesses.
Style Arrival Ltd
Paul Mabbot Electrical Ltd
Best Pay Ltd
Stephen Roberts Associates Ltd
Lets see how it pans out, but having used the easyjet DSA-AMS many times where I was one of maybe 3 or 4 passengers on the flight, I don't think its a particularly successful route. Now if KLM introduced a few flights into DSA, that would make all the difference, a gateway to the world!
I never understood why Aer Lingus never opened up it's full network when it ran flights out of DSA.
From experience, some solicitors will allow clients to use their address as a mailing address vs the solicitors office - not uncommon.
TANGO100
20th Sep 2011, 23:11
Lets see how it pans out, but having used the easyjet DSA-AMS many times where I was one of maybe 3 or 4 passengers on the flight, I don't think its a particularly successful route
Hi L'aviateur
What were the prices like to AMS with Easyjet when they flew and do you know the load factors
Ta
Cazza_fly
20th Sep 2011, 23:31
What were the prices like to AMS with Easyjet when they flew and do you know the load factors
Average price for the entire season EZY operated the route was £21.99 each way!!! Sometimes it was less and obviously on the busier days alot more.
The flight was daily but operated in an afternoon slot which probably didn't help load factors/flight pricing out too much... Despite this however, the entire operation of the route had an overall everage flight Load Factor of around 65%.
EZY A319 156Y Configuration
johnnychips
21st Sep 2011, 20:26
The AMS flight was the 'weakest link' in EZY's operations from DSA. I flew Ryanair 7 times DSA-Girona, and it was without exception, full. When EZY moved in on DSA-BCN, Ryanair pulled their Girona flight. At the time I thought it was to teach Peel a lesson, but maybe it was partly due to Ryanair's ongoing argument with GRO, which has led to loads of routes being pulled. FR kept Alicante.
I flew DSA-BCN a couple of times with Easy, and all four flights were full and not cheap (though admittedly during school holidays). I wonder if Cazza Fly knows the LFs? When they pulled out, Ryan introduced Faro and Tenerife and I rather hoped they would do GRO again (unlikely due to the rows) or even BCN.
However this was at the time they expanded at Leeds and introduced a BCN route from there, so I suppose it would have been competition. So now the most convenient way is from MAN with Swiss! (Monarch's flight's too early).
Cazza_fly
21st Sep 2011, 22:19
I flew DSA-BCN a couple of times with Easy, and all four flights were full and not cheap (though admittedly during school holidays). I wonder if Cazza Fly knows the LFs
The Load Factors on these flights averaged around 89% for the entire EZY DSA operation. So yes, definately a better performer for EZY especially when like you said the fares were generally much higher.
johnnychips
21st Sep 2011, 23:59
Cheers for the info CF.
TANGO100
24th Sep 2011, 22:14
Does anyone know if DSA will be doing any ski flights in the near future via a low cost operation / not charter
I know they have done in the past but not sure on results
Noticed that Jet2's program of ski airports has dwindled slightly in its offerings
Ta
TimmyW
4th Oct 2011, 18:48
More bad news for DSA with the loss of FlyBe and the Belfast route.
The airport really needs a shot in the arm from somewhere.
bad bear
4th Oct 2011, 22:03
is there an error on the arrivals board? no SS arrivals between 0630 and 1930? one dept @1000?
I can see a clear safety case for all that controlled airspace.... not! NOTAM the airspace as withdrawn and let the rest of the guys get on with flying in peace
bb
captain_spud
25th Oct 2011, 10:54
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/129953/dreamliner-set-to-descend-into-doncaster
Looks to be very interesting.
Teevee
25th Oct 2011, 15:35
So gobsmacking even us DSA fans are refusing to believe it yet!
ericlday
25th Oct 2011, 15:39
All you need now is sufficient pax to fill them !!!
Chidken Sangwich
25th Oct 2011, 15:45
787 - goodness knows where that story has come from as the first TOM one's arent due into the UK until Sep 2012!
airhumberside
25th Oct 2011, 15:57
The story has comes from what has been loaded into the OAG and then noticed by routes online
Cazza_fly
25th Oct 2011, 17:36
787 - goodness knows where that story has come from as the first TOM one's arent due into the UK until Sep 2012
As far I last knew I thought Thomson were expecting them at the end of January? (Pending no further delays) Which would fit in to the February launch flights. Where did you hear September?
Danny_R
25th Oct 2011, 17:57
Same discussion happening in the MAN thread, it has been said in there that the first flight is not until Sept and that upto this point there are no TOM 787's on Boeing's production line so it would be very difficult to meet the Feb target.
Cazza_fly
25th Oct 2011, 18:16
Same discussion happening in the MAN thread, it has been said in there that the first flight is not until Sept and that upto this point there are no TOM 787's on Boeing's production line so it would be very difficult to meet the Feb target.
Fair enough but there isn't anything to confirm that non of the current built / production line aircraft are not going to TOM. I doubt the TOM 787s will be painted straight away anyway like many of the others are, as they are planning a modified livery.
Chidken Sangwich
26th Oct 2011, 10:03
Latest update from my contact is now Jan 2013 for first delivery as suits TOM better (not a Boeing delay).
2Planks
26th Oct 2011, 15:40
Evidently the Japanese are fed up with Disneyland so ANA are doing weekly packages to The Dome! :rolleyes:
I don't know how true this is but there is a rumour going around that Ryanair are the next airline to be pulling out of DSA.
This past summer they have operated flights to Faro, Alicante and Tenerife.
Jamie2k9
9th Nov 2011, 20:04
As of today everything except TFS is getting the chop. TFS also only showing at 1 weekly next summer. All could change.
TimmyW
9th Nov 2011, 20:18
Just checked on the Ryanair website, and there are no flights bookable for next summer, not even TFS.
You have to wonder when or if DSA will get a break of any kind.
Get me some traffic
9th Nov 2011, 23:08
Not while Peel/VAS are in charge!
johnnychips
10th Nov 2011, 21:44
Jamie 2K9 reports on Ryanair topic that Alicante's dropped. Rest going?
Update from Jamie: Faro going, TFS once a week.
Buster the Bear
10th Nov 2011, 22:19
Yields and discounts. No doubt the yileds from Donny and the discounts that Peel gave do not equate to keeping services going.
johnnychips
10th Nov 2011, 22:25
Hi Buster
This debate seems to be going on at two threads at once - obviously we all can't go to bed or telly's rubbish - so have a look at the Ryanair section for some good points made.
johnnychips
3rd Dec 2011, 01:31
Damn! England group stage matches all in Ukraine. No bonus for Wizz from DSA then.
Oh dear, Its just got worse for DSA.
It now looks like Thomas Cook holidays have dropped there planned weekly services to Rhodes and Lanzarote for next summer season.
TimmyW
19th Dec 2011, 17:35
The owners have no interest what so ever in DSA. Watch it be put up for sale or closed next year.
What operator is going to come in and offer new routes which it desperately needs? No one is the answer.
TimmyW
30th Dec 2011, 22:52
Thomas Cook pulling out completely now apparently next summer. Thomson have scaled back their original summer 2012 offerings as well.
ILS32
31st Dec 2011, 10:47
Thomas Cook pulling out completely now apparently next summer
Flights to Dalaman and Palma are on their website for sale for 2012.
Where did you get your information in regard to TC pulling out?
ryansf
31st Dec 2011, 14:15
Most things Timmy comes out with are complete rubbish (hence why no one usually replies to his postings)... I'd take it with a huge pinch of salt until something is confirmed.
TimmyW
31st Dec 2011, 17:04
As reported in the local press.
Also, Thomson have reduced their announced services for next summer by axing Bodrum, reducing the Palma and Egypt frequencies.
Have a look for yourself.
johnnychips
10th Jan 2012, 23:54
Some good news - Girona back this summer twice a week. Always thought potential since EZY pulled out of BCN. Sod's Law I just booked my flight to BCN from MAN for my hols two days ago.
TANGO100
11th Jan 2012, 00:08
which airline?
Sorry just found out who - Ryanair, lets see how long this time!!
egcntristar
16th Jan 2012, 14:50
The Wizz Vilnius flights will go from 2 per week, to 3 per week from May to September. Where is the PR machine when there are a few glimmers of hope? Nothing like not promoting your own business!
johnnychips
4th Feb 2012, 20:31
Wizz flight from Gdansk flew straight past Doncaster, went to Ilkley Moor and seems to be circling around LBA at the moment. Outward flight shown as cancelled but Thomson flight from Las Palmas still expected early hours. About 4" snow here.
EDIT It seems to have landed about 2200, although DUB-LBA circling same time has diverted to MAN
flybar
5th Feb 2012, 08:58
Turin flight operating from LBA this morning
And still Doncaster-Sheffield Airport is closed this evening. What are they doing?
There hasn't been any fresh snow fall since 22:00 last night. So the Thomson inbound from Turin and the outbound service to Arrecife are been diverted and operated through to East Midlands.
learjet50
5th Feb 2012, 20:00
I think your comments say it all about DSA
The Management dont care they have lost a fortune regretably but its there faule no Boby else
Thompson will eventually get fed up with the I dont give a Fxxk by the owners and pull out as will Wizz
Its a shame but its life when a bunch of Toxxers run an airport
egcntristar
24th Feb 2012, 15:53
With Wizz announcings new routes from Bucharest in the next few weeks does DSA have a chance of being one?
Before the usual suspects nix the idea, Vilnius has worked with Wizz and the frequency will increase this summer.
Cazza_fly
24th Feb 2012, 16:02
With Wizz announcings new routes from Bucharest in the next few weeks does DSA have a chance of being one?
Yes I guess they have a chance... If the rumours are to be believed in the slightest, there was ''apparently'' plans to launch this route back in November / December for schedules starting from June this year, but various reasons lead to this not happening...