Medical at EK

[B777Flyer]

Hey Guys,

does anyone know when EK is doing the Medical during the joining process? A chap of mine has passed the interview and everything then after he has quit his present job EK called him that he didn`t pass the medical and therefore coudn`t get the job.
Not quite fair in my eyes so I wonder if this is the normal procedure..
My interview date is next month but I am not willing to end up with nothing.
The funny thing is that my collegue had never any problems before to get the medical and was just told that he hadn`t passed the eye test. Are they doing the normal stuff or anything out of the ordinary?

Thanks for any info regarding this

Cheers

777

[Oblaaspop]

Why did he quit his job if he hadn't been offered a job at EK?

The medical is done on day 4 of the selection process, and a contract/job offer will only be sent out if you are fully successful through ALL stages including medical and references.

[Flying duke]

Yes the medical is done on the 4th day , after they inform you that you have been successful during the interview process. But you still need to pass the medical and security so they specifically tell you NOT to quit your job :=. They do send out the referee forms which that might cause a bit of a problem if you are not offered a contract at the end.

The medical examination is very thorough and last about 3 to 5 hours depending their workload. This is a full GCAA class 1 examination so you don t have to worry if you going to fail it after you join. First part is done in the Emirates clinic which is located on the basement of the headquarters (same place you do the interview). Second part they send you to a government hospital where you do the eye exam ( again !!!! :8) and x-rays.

My advice watch out for you BMI and your waist perimeter (102 cm limit).
If you think you might have a health problem go to your doctor and try to improve your condition. They take the medical exam very seriously since you get health and life insurance after you join.

Hope this helped. Wish you good luck....:ok:

P.S. Pls excuse my spelling...

[145qrh]

EK medical, what a joke. A long as BMI is ok you are fit and healthy.:=

Third world country, third world mentality .

Ps. reading today that our wonderful health insurance is great, as long as you don't mind waiting a month to see a doctor. :eek:

[Boeing 777-300ER]

Second part they send you to a government hospital where you do the eye exam ( again !!!! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/nerd.gif)

Why do you have an eye exam again? Is it a different test or something?

[BritishGuy]

How is the hearing test? A friend of mine is all OK with everything else, but her left ear is well.... a little hard of hearing. She doesn't have problems in the cockpit, and it's never really been picked up on with her FAA medicals, but during her JAA Medical, she had to do the hearing portion on 3 different occasions as her left ear was a little weak. She made my excuses (been swimming on first occasion, recovering from cold on 2nd occasion, and finally got through it on her 3rd occasion).

She's planning to get her ears syringed in a week or so just to clear/clean out any 'gunk' she may have in there to improve her chances - but just wanted to see if she'd be not offered a position if her left ear was deemed to be a bit weak.

[ekwhistleblower]

Pardon............

[constellaton]

Hi

Just wondering if anyone would know what are the standards for colour blindness at EK.
I cannot read some plates in the ishihara test but I did the lantern test and passed it. I have even got a class 1 medical here in oz with no restrictions.
So would this be accepted at EK?? Anyone with any info on this could shed some light pls.
Thnx

[CRJ brat]

The eye exam at the hospital is a little more in depth with photos taken of your eyes. They check the pressure and many other things. A lot different than looking at a book and telling what the numbers are or reading a chart off the wall.

[Flyer1015]

How is the hearing test? A friend of mine is all OK with everything else, but her left ear is well.... a little hard of hearing. She doesn't have problems in the cockpit, and it's never really been picked up on with her FAA medicals, but during her JAA Medical, she had to do the hearing portion on 3 different occasions as her left ear was a little weak. She made my excuses (been swimming on first occasion, recovering from cold on 2nd occasion, and finally got through it on her 3rd occasion).

She's planning to get her ears syringed in a week or so just to clear/clean out any 'gunk' she may have in there to improve her chances - but just wanted to see if she'd be not offered a position if her left ear was deemed to be a bit weak.

Hey guys, I'm wondering the same thing. I have the same problem, except I'm basically deaf in the left ear (from birth). But in the US, the FAA requires for a 1st class medical the "ability to hear an average conversational voice from 6 feet away" with back turned to doctor. That I can do, I have no problem hearing things. So I have a first class medical in the US with a restriction for wearing corrective lenses, but no restriction/waiver for hearing. I currently fly for a USA Part 121 airline as well.

Would I stand a chance at EK?

What would help most is if I could get a hold of UAE GCAA standards for a 1st class medical, but to date, I have not been able to find anything online.

Anyone have a link? There's gotta be something out there!

Please help!

[Flying duke]

CRJ brats' description is accurate. In the EK clinic you get examined by a general doctor employed by EK. In the hospital the nurses do the tests and then an ophthalmologist sees the results and examines you accordingly.
As for the audiograme it was in my opinion one of toughest I 've done.
Typical push the button when you hear the sound at varius frequencies , but lots of noise coming from outside and you can barely hear anything.
Sorry but can t help you regarding the color deficiency , but I ll see if I can dig up the EK medical requirements and I ll post them..... If I remember right they email it to you when you confirm the interview date.

[Flying duke]

Found it!!
Can t copy/paste the whole thing but here are the required sections:

Ear, Nose and Throat

Acceptable:
-Well controlled allergic rhinitis or sinusitis on aviation approved medications Unacceptable: -Recurrent otitis media or tympanic membrane (eardrum) perforations -Otosclerosis
-Meniere’s disease -Spontaneous or positional nystagmus -Cholesteatoma -Perilymph fistula -Severe motion sickness -Any ear disease or condition that may cause vertigo or a disturbance of speech or equilibrium. -Severe hearing loss Hearing Pure tone audiometric test. Unaided, with thresholds no worse than:
Frequency
500 Hz 1,000 Hz 2,000 Hz 3,000 Hz
Worst Ear
35 dB 35 dB 35 dB 50 dB

Vision

Advisable to EK clinic:
> + or - 5D spherical equivalent either eye
Spherical equivalent is determined by algebraically adding half the cylinder part of the correction to the spherical part of the correction Unacceptable: Functionally monocular Diplopia Keratoconus Glaucoma Other progressive conditions

LASIK/PRK
Acceptable if:

Pre-surgical refraction meets above vision standards Treatment done when > 21years old > 12 months after the procedure Stable vision (less than 0.75 D variation diurnally) No postoperative complications Unacceptable: Radial keratectomy Intercorneal rings

Cataract Surgery

Acceptable:
If more than 3 months post procedure or more than 12 months for cataract transplant No complications
Meets visual standards
Retinal Surgery Acceptable if: More than 6 months post procedure No complications Meets visual standards
Colour Vision Acceptable if “Colour Safe”: Pass first 15 plates of Ishihara pseudoisochromatic plates (24 plate version)

Hope this helps.
Again my opinion is DO NOT take the EK medical lightly :=,it is a shame to pass the interview process and then get turned down just because you didn t try to do anything before the interview :ugh:.
Don t believe to posters telling you it is a joke, if you happen to be the 1 out of a hundred who got sacked cause of this, then you ll have a different opinion :suspect:.

[click]

Hey thanks a lot for posting the eye limits...I fall within the parameters but up to now had no idea what these were. Quite surprised about the LASIK though...

[777boyindubai]

Hi Flying Duke,

The "General" doctors that you refer to are actually Fully qualified Aviation Medical Examiners.

Good luck with your application.

[Flying duke]

Hey 777boyindubai,

Maybe you don t understand the term "general doctor" or maybe i am not conveying it correctly. Most of the approved JAA doctors with private practices are general Aviation doctors, at least in Europe.
That does not diminish them in any way , to the contrary, cause they need to have a wider range of knowledge. If they need a more in-depth examination they send you to a specialist.
Hope this clears things up , cheers.:ok:

[may lu]

Hi: I just wanted to ask you,where did you get this info?

Thank you:)

[flyTheBigFatLady]

They take the medical exam very seriously since you get health and life insurance after you join.
..
to correct you

you are not getting an insurance
EK is covering the costs of a doctor visit. There is no choice in doctors as most of, better literally everything has to be approved by EK medical service. Since their internal cost cutting Programm on medical benefits it became more and more difficult to get approval.
If you have a friend there, have a look into his medical card. In general it says “referral only” and it’s meant so. Even if you walk into a emergency it can happen that the will ask you to call medical benefit first to get the referral.
otherwise you go pay and claim which can be super long process until you get your money, if not somebody decided that the treatment you received is way out of standard and EK coverage, and therefore it will only be partly reimbursed.

secondly you are becoming a cost factor which in fact led to all the redundancies and in future your sick balance and the involved costs will decide over your career path (e.g command upgrade - that’s from an internal source).

thirdly there is a problem with data protection. For the sake of paying your doctor visit EK demands every single detail of your treatment. Once this information is within EK literally every single person (including flight ops) can get information about your doctors visit, and can and will eventually use it against you.
back to why people where chosen to be made redundant- and/or have been rejected during the rejoining process, at a point where you have not given any detailed health information or haven’t been examined by a EK doctor.



so good luck with your “insurance”

[White Knight]

Once this information is within EK literally every single person (including flight ops) can get information about your doctors visit, and can and will eventually use it against you

Absolute cr@p…….. No one outside the medical department can access your medical file! And the medical staff will not release any of your medical information to anyone outside the department.

What’s used against you is your attendance record; especially if you’re a habitual 2-pusher!

[flyTheBigFatLady]

Absolute cr@p…….. No one outside the medical department can access your medical file! And the medical staff will not release any of your medical information to anyone outside the department.

What’s used against you is your attendance record; especially if you’re a habitual 2-pusher!

If so why have some people being directly asked for their medical condition when being useful to put pressure on them?
Within EK there is absolute no data confidentiality, once the data is within EK. It goes even so far that certain people from EK flight ops demand that record. It may not had happen to you, but it definitely happened.

yes those 2-pushers are identified via the attendance, that’s correct, I personally know some who had to explain doctors visits in regards to a specific treatment resulting in long sick where they where confronted with very specific details which should not even with medical administration, but they where - that all happend around upgrade interviews.

[Kennytheking]

You are using half-truths to make it sound like a witch hunt and all because you have an axe to grind with the company.

The company does not give a rats arse what is wrong with you - they are only interested in your ability to work. If your condition impacts your attendance that is going to come down on you for sure. I have had several operations and my during my interaction with fleet, I did not feel that they wanted to know my medical issues - they wanted to know how long I could wait for the op and how long it would take to recover(and I had to give the doctor permission to give that information to them) - all perfectly reasonable.

I know that the SK will be on my record and when the next pandemic hits, I may well be let go - that is a calculation that I have made and am comfortable with. It's a reality I am lead to believe is not unique to the Middle east.

I don't know anything about your mates case but it is third hand information and I suspect skewed to his own point of view. It is also not impossible that some over zealous interviewer may have stepped over the line but that would not be the norm and is definitely not policy.

[flyTheBigFatLady]

You are using half-truths to make it sound like a witch hunt and all because you have an axe to grind with the company.

The company does not give a rats arse what is wrong with you - they are only interested in your ability to work. If your condition impacts your attendance that is going to come down on you for sure. I have had several operations and my during my interaction with fleet, I did not feel that they wanted to know my medical issues - they wanted to know how long I could wait for the op and how long it would take to recover(and I had to give the doctor permission to give that information to them) - all perfectly reasonable.

I know that the SK will be on my record and when the next pandemic hits, I may well be let go - that is a calculation that I have made and am comfortable with. It's a reality I am lead to believe is not unique to the Middle east.

I don't know anything about your mates case but it is third hand information and I suspect skewed to his own point of view. It is also not impossible that some over zealous interviewer may have stepped over the line but that would not be the norm and is definitely not policy.
I would love to say you are right and that’s only half truth. I can assure you that I know the details and it’s unfortunately by far bigger than half truth. It’s very real.

consider your self lucky, at least one case was axed over a broken leg where it is known how long it takes to recover, another one over cancer (before covid). The broken leg story took place during the beginnings of the pandemic where it should not have mattered as the fleet wasn’t flying anyway. They knew and still it’s been a mandate for cost cutting. Another way is that fleet demands a signature one a letter to open your medical record to them, that can happen before a upcoming command interview, when the command board likes to.

i agree with you that they are in general not interested in what’s wrong with you and usually not playing that card and things are handled via attendance. And they are clever enough not to put down their cards, they won’t show you that they are breaking all rules of confidentiality.

should it not make you think that it is possible that someone can step over that red line.

[paule737]

to correct you

you are not getting an insurance
EK is covering the costs of a doctor visit. There is no choice in doctors as most of, better literally everything has to be approved by EK medical service. Since their internal cost cutting Programm on medical benefits it became more and more difficult to get approval.
If you have a friend there, have a look into his medical card. In general it says “referral only” and it’s meant so. Even if you walk into a emergency it can happen that the will ask you to call medical benefit first to get the referral.
otherwise you go pay and claim which can be super long process until you get your money, if not somebody decided that the treatment you received is way out of standard and EK coverage, and therefore it will only be partly reimbursed.

secondly you are becoming a cost factor which in fact led to all the redundancies and in future your sick balance and the involved costs will decide over your career path (e.g command upgrade - that’s from an internal source).

thirdly there is a problem with data protection. For the sake of paying your doctor visit EK demands every single detail of your treatment. Once this information is within EK literally every single person (including flight ops) can get information about your doctors visit, and can and will eventually use it against you.
back to why people where chosen to be made redundant- and/or have been rejected during the rejoining process, at a point where you have not given any detailed health information or haven’t been examined by a EK doctor.



so good luck with your “insurance”

Absolutely true… Good friend of mine had an accident, ending up in the the emergency room with a complicated fracture in his left arm…

Doctor’s refused to start a treatment until they’ve had been given the approval by the EK insurance 🙄🙄 Ohhh BTW this happened on a Friday (at that time) 😂😂

Delayed the process by four hours 🥵


Good luck with that….

[Kennytheking]

I'm sorry but I still disagree with you. You are using a handful of extreme cases to try and make a very broad based point which is not accurate.

I have never heard of medical records being reviewed as part of the upgrade process, which suggests that the case in point was special for some reason...what is the real story?

I think that you have made the point that EK Clinic requires the patient's approval to release any medical records which I would assume is in line with anywhere in the world. If you have chosen to give that approval, you cannot complain that the company gets the information. I should point out that medical confidentiality is an obligation on the clinic, not the company.

I will concur on 2 points though :-

If the story I heard about the cancer patient is true, it will not cover the company in glory and I hope there will be a reckoning for that;
I am not thrilled with the way the coverage is headed and all the approvals issues. Still streets ahead of most places in the world though, including UK & USA.

[flyTheBigFatLady]

I'm sorry but I still disagree with you. You are using a handful of extreme cases to try and make a very broad based point which is not accurate.

I have never heard of medical records being reviewed as part of the upgrade process, which suggests that the case in point was special for some reason...what is the real story?

I think that you have made the point that EK Clinic requires the patient's approval to release any medical records which I would assume is in line with anywhere in the world. If you have chosen to give that approval, you cannot complain that the company gets the information. I should point out that medical confidentiality is an obligation on the clinic, not the company.

I will concur on 2 points though :-

If the story I heard about the cancer patient is true, it will not cover the company in glory and I hope there will be a reckoning for that;
I am not thrilled with the way the coverage is headed and all the approvals issues. Still streets ahead of most places in the world though, including UK & USA.



the cancer patient is about to die, since he lost his job due to his sickness he had to head back to a country where he does not get any proper treatment, and as he has no income anymore and no insurance, he cannot afford treatment somewhere else.

the lack of medical benefit and EK doctors to call and approve his treatments actually costed him a chance for survival. At the end mangers called him on attendance confronted him with his illness and it’s not acceptable to have him sick so many days for the upcoming treatments. The affected manager had details, which never should have been in this department.

that’s a good friend of mine and his doctor gave him just a limit time as there is nothing they can do. after years living with cancer and no treatment he finally found a job which will cover some treatment. Unfortunately it’s far to late to recover and they only can assist in lowering the pain till the end.
That’s a very very real story and I have been with him when he had spoken to managers.
the contract was more or less ended by a senior manger him selves himself.

So please don’t tell what this company is able to do if they want. It a very emotional story for my self.

Trust me the other story is not any less reality.
in this: once the attendance is covered by EK doctors no one should have the right and ability to demand more details as
1. they are no medical professionals
2. it’s confidential between you and the EK doctor- that’s why it is a EK doctor

attendance is a career factor, today more than in the past. But again once your attendance is supported by EK clinic no one should have the right to judge over it, nor to get some details.
EK clinic issues a medical license and that’s all what flight ops needs to know.

Have you never asked why you have to go to fleet once your doctor says you need a certain procedure. It’s not their judgment when and how the procedure can or should be done.
that’s you and the doctor only, once accepted by the EK clinic. No one else. I call this soft breaking of confidentiality, because they more or less they force you to explain your state of health yourself outside of any doctors confidentiality.

but I also understand as usual all stories we hear and did not happen to ourselves cannot be true. I also said it’s not a general behavior and I am just concerned over the fact it happens and can happen, and the fact it did. Therefore it can happen at any time when ever they want, because the ability in in-confidentiality is generally given.

i agree totally in the point confidentiality is a topic for the clinics. But as soon as benefits is about to pay the bills they need to see the details, and with a little medical understanding and knowledge of procedures and pharmaceuticals you get a pretty good picture of how it can go ahead. This is the point where confidentiality is broken as the data is in the administrative part of the company where there is no more data protection given.

[Oblivion67]

Medical background check at joining.

Guys could somebody please tell me if an EASA Class 1 unrestricted is in itself a medical background check, if that makes any sense? I remember some years ago when I looked at EK recruitment that there was the company Medical but if I remember correctly they also wanted release of medical records from your AME and licensing authority? Stand to be corrected there.

I had a medical issue once upon a time which has now been rectified with no recurring issues etc but more than likely it would disqualify me from the joining process. I feel I do not need to disclose this as it does not represent my current situation. I'm sure not everyone getting jobs in the middle east/Asia is filling out every little medical condition etc.

I'm interested to hear from new/recent joiners directly via PM if possible.

Thanks so much,

Wish you all the very best.

[Giuff]

Before covid i went to Dubai and got hired by EK.
Same ear problem as the lady above, but if the test is within limits no issues at all.
I even got recalled (but declined the offer).

Good luck.

[nimrodjoe]

Medicals in emirates are not like Medicals in civilization.

You will hear of young fit folk having all kinds of diagnosis which puts their career in jeopardy.

Emirates have access to your medical records and actually got all the pandemic redundant/rejoiners to sign a declaration to allow access of this before rehiring them.

[Oblivion67]

What EK would have access to my EASA medical records? Whattttt?

I mean, I do remember they wanted me to request them from my AME and pass them on to them, and that was standard procedure. I had a clean slate at the time.

Surely the current Unrestricted class 1 is in itself sufficient.There must be guys going to ek not disclosing all previous medical issues?

Does anyone know the exact procedure or can find out?

Thanks everyone!

[nimrodjoe]

An unrestricted class 1 EASA is certainly not an unrestricted class 1 GCAA medical. It’s quite common to have restrictions on a GCAA medical here and not on your one back home.

in the context of those with restrictions often getting the boot or at best scraping back , I’d be very cautious .

the medical in ek has terminated many pilots careers who otherwise would have enjoyed long careers back home . Remember your on your own in ek!

[nimrodjoe]

My advice for anybody with any relevant medical history (however small) do not go to EK- I have seen it time and time again over the years ,

Conclusion;
bit dodgy in the sim - no problem
Relevant medical history (however small) - don’t risk it !

And do not lie on your medical form - the consequences are severe for breaking the law.

[Giuff]

One guy from Colombia failed the medical when i joined years ago.
He was an hardcore body builder, no fat mass at all, but not enough tall according to his weight.
According to EK medical requirements his BMI was far too high. Rejected.

Crazy stuff i have seen.

[nimrodjoe]

To sum up the mentality , if your heart rate is below 60 in renewal , they make you do star jumps to get it between 60-100 resting.

EK AMEs will refer you to external clinics in Dubai on your renewals. These guys will find all kinds of “conditions” as ek will pay whatever it takes to get you back asap - big money spinner but leaves many pilots up the creek.

The money spent on your medical “investigation and/or treatment “ all goes on your EK HR portal for you to view online and is accessible by Emirates.

in other words it forms part of your “employment history”

Most pilots who come here are aware that there’s legislation against this in their home country but join accepting the risks in pursuit of the rewards.

[Monarch Man]

I had a minor issue with raised BP whilst in a medical setting (called whitecoat) which developed whilst at EK. A certain "Garden Knome" got wind of this and decided to use me as part of his career path up the greasy pole. In the end I was medically grounded for 4 months and tested for everything related to cardiovascular health and risk, fortunately I avoided the dreaded sleep clinic.
The result? I was diagnosed with hypertension and prescribed medication (which I never took as I dont have high BP) and was required to wear a 24hr BP monitor periodically to retain my medical.
Now it may seem like a small thing to many, but for me it created pointless stress for the family and I and wasted about 30000 DHS on pointless tests.
Subsequent to this I found a sensible western Doc at the EK clinic (now retired) who understood the situation and made life a lot simpler.
Now back in the real world I've had no such problems, my medical now involves a chat with my AME about day to day life etc and I'm good to go.
The moral of the story is that the EK clinic can f@#k with your life far more than fleet or crewing, caveat emptor!

[flyTheBigFatLady]

I had a minor issue with raised BP whilst in a medical setting (called whitecoat) which developed whilst at EK. A certain "Garden Knome" got wind of this and decided to use me as part of his career path up the greasy pole. In the end I was medically grounded for 4 months and tested for everything related to cardiovascular health and risk, fortunately I avoided the dreaded sleep clinic.
The result? I was diagnosed with hypertension and prescribed medication (which I never took as I dont have high BP) and was required to wear a 24hr BP monitor periodically to retain my medical.
Now it may seem like a small thing to many, but for me it created pointless stress for the family and I and wasted about 30000 DHS on pointless tests.
Subsequent to this I found a sensible western Doc at the EK clinic (now retired) who understood the situation and made life a lot simpler.
Now back in the real world I've had no such problems, my medical now involves a chat with my AME about day to day life etc and I'm good to go.
The moral of the story is that the EK clinic can f@#k with your life far more than fleet or crewing, caveat emptor!

not to mention that a 4 month grounding are very contributing in cases like COV to get rid of an employee over his medical record.

[SOPS]

I had a minor issue with raised BP whilst in a medical setting (called whitecoat) which developed whilst at EK. A certain "Garden Knome" got wind of this and decided to use me as part of his career path up the greasy pole. In the end I was medically grounded for 4 months and tested for everything related to cardiovascular health and risk, fortunately I avoided the dreaded sleep clinic.
The result? I was diagnosed with hypertension and prescribed medication (which I never took as I dont have high BP) and was required to wear a 24hr BP monitor periodically to retain my medical.
Now it may seem like a small thing to many, but for me it created pointless stress for the family and I and wasted about 30000 DHS on pointless tests.
Subsequent to this I found a sensible western Doc at the EK clinic (now retired) who understood the situation and made life a lot simpler.
Now back in the real world I've had no such problems, my medical now involves a chat with my AME about day to day life etc and I'm good to go.
The moral of the story is that the EK clinic can f@#k with your life far more than fleet or crewing, caveat emptor!

The Gnome destroyed a few careers in his climb up the pole.

[flyTheBigFatLady]

The Gnome destroyed a few careers in his climb up the pole.

gnome is one of the worst beings I ever met, beside incompetent, He has no moral and his existence is defined to compensate his appearance with the power he has.

[Shazeem]

gnome is one of the worst beings I ever met, beside incompetent, He has no moral and his existence is defined to compensate his appearance with the power he has.

The whole reason he is in Dubai. In his home country he would be fully ignored like he used to be. And now desperately compensating and showing himself and others he is "allmighty powerful". I find this more an act of cowardness. Very sad.
​​​​​​I tend to see these personalities popping up here in Dubai. In their tiny bubble they are finally master of their tiny domain. If you get dependant of such idiots, then it gets risky. At EK you are totally dependant of such morons. But hey at least you can wear a hat :)

[SOPS]

The whole reason he is in Dubai. In his home country he would be fully ignored like he used to be. And now desperately compensating and showing himself and others he is "allmighty powerful". I find this more an act of cowardness. Very sad.
​​​​​​I tend to see these personalities popping up here in Dubai. In their tiny bubble they are finally master of their tiny domain. If you get dependant of such idiots, then it gets risky. At EK you are totally dependant of such morons. But hey at least you can wear a hat :)

Is he back in Dubai?

[Shazeem]

Is he back in Dubai?

Was..No, I hope he is not somewhere within a radius of 420NM. There are plenty of idiots left.
​​​​

[The Turtle]

I'm sorry but I still disagree with you. You are using a handful of extreme cases to try and make a very broad based point which is not accurate.

I have never heard of medical records being reviewed as part of the upgrade process, which suggests that the case in point was special for some reason...what is the real story?



I am sorry but I disagree with you, Kenney..... It happened to me. My upgrade in 2012 was delayed because of a longer-term sickness that was initially due to a misdiagnosed by EK medical. "You've had too many sick days... Etc"

And I still hold the letter from fleet as proof.

Yes it does happen.

[McToryMug]

EK clinic diagnosed a close friend with with deteriorated colour vision which led to the suspension of his medical for a 3 month period and a limitation added upon reinstatement which led to his dismissal from the company in the pandemic without return. All started because he couldn't do the colour book following the snake in less than 3 seconds on the renewal day. You wouldn't believe the lives destroyed by ek medical department! He currently works in a supermarket stacking shelves!

[nimrodjoe]

Yes anybody can get an EASA medical these days -far more relaxed than GCAA especially in emirates

[McToryMug]

EASA is very simple, often those with EASA medicals can get their GCAA initials but have issues on renewals, that's the problem because they have burnt bridges at home and renewals outside ek are very straight forward - in ek you can fail renewals at the drop of a hat!

[MaverickPrime]

I’ve family out in the sandpit and would be interested in making the move.

However, I’ve an irregular heart valve and I’m starting to wonder if I’ve any chance of passing the pre employment medical?

I’m early 30s and hold an unrestricted EASA class 1 medical, although I do have to provide a cardiology report each year.

Has anyone with cardiac issues got employed out there?

[Python27]

I’ve family out in the sandpit and would be interested in making the move.

However, I’ve an irregular heart valve and I’m starting to wonder if I’ve any chance of passing the pre employment medical?

I’m early 30s and hold an unrestricted EASA class 1 medical, although I do have to provide a cardiology report each year.

Has anyone with cardiac issues got employed out there?

The only place that can provide you this answer accurately is EK clinic, since it's requirements are way more restrictive than GCAA ones (BMI for example).

Still, I'd perform this shift very carefully to any place out of the Civilization with any physical condition...

[nimrodjoe]

I’ve family out in the sandpit and would be interested in making the move.

However, I’ve an irregular heart valve and I’m starting to wonder if I’ve any chance of passing the pre employment medical?

I’m early 30s and hold an unrestricted EASA class 1 medical, although I do have to provide a cardiology report each year.

Has anyone with cardiac issues got employed out there?

Haha good luck…

[BigGeordie]

Emirates do their own medical insurance which is one of the reasons the employment medical is so strict. If you have any further problems down the line with your heart you may well find the Emirates "insurance" doesn't cover you and medical care in Dubai is extremely expensive. With any kind of pre-existing condition I'd think very, very carefully about the Middle East. A class one EASA medical means nothing here and even IF you pass the pre-employment medical every renewal will be a lottery depending on which doctor you get - if you win you get another year of flying, if you loose you loose your career. Do you feel lucky?

[flyTheBigFatLady]

Emirates do their own medical insurance which is one of the reasons the employment medical is so strict. If you have any further problems down the line with your heart you may well find the Emirates "insurance" doesn't cover you and medical care in Dubai is extremely expensive. With any kind of pre-existing condition I'd think very, very carefully about the Middle East. A class one EASA medical means nothing here and even IF you pass the pre-employment medical every renewal will be a lottery depending on which doctor you get - if you win you get another year of flying, if you loose you loose your career. Do you feel lucky?

the misconception is to believe emirates has or is an insurance - it is not . Emirates pays the bills if your medical needs. Meaning if you require a longer Treatment its going to be payed by the Company by simple transferring the amount.it’s not an insurance, it’s a cost factor in the Finance data. Nothing else. A position every manager wants to cut or lower to zero as on the sheet you will cost a salary + benefits + medical expenses. Which catapults you as an individual outside of calculated and predicted budget, nominating you to something to get rid of.

[MaverickPrime]

Cheers folks, matches up with the tales I’ve heard from my family out there.

Kind of disappointing, hard to find anything that pays well in Europe these days, especially if like myself you are looking at forced early retirement on medical grounds (statistically speaking) and need to have your finances sorted by early 50s.

[request]

Hello everyone :ok:, I would like to know if someone can tell me how long it takes for the GCAA to issue the medical certificate since the status is "In Process with GCAA". Thank you