View Full Version : Reasonably priced refurbished jets
007helicopter
21st Oct 2009, 17:42
Anyone got any experience of these aircraft, at the price and complete refurb sounds like could be a good deal?
Florida-based MS760 Corporation (http://www.ms760.com/) announced plans to bring back the MS760 Paris Jet, a 1950s Morane-Saulnier design that’s been called the original very light jet. ...
JetSet intends to refurbish the old airframes, install modern avionics, re-engine them with a single Pratt&Whitney JT15D-4 or Williams FJ44 turbo fan engine, and sell them for approximately $550,000.
With the new engine, JetSet says that its remanufactured MS760 should be able to cruise as fast as 400 knots, and have a maximum range of 1,400 nm. The new engines will also be a whale of a lot quieter than the straight-pipe Turbomecas.
Type certificate transfer is expected sometime in the first quarter of 2010. Right now, JetSet says that it should take delivery of seven of its MS760s in the next 30 to 90 days. Two airplanes in the first shipment will be set up to perform formation aerobatics at airshows, beginning in 2010
1800ed
21st Oct 2009, 18:14
A jet in that price bracket, that sounds quite interesting.
Little expensive considering you can buy this
http://www.prideaircraft.com/images/N5846V-R-front-full.jpg
for $195,000 at Pride Aircraft: L-39C Albatros / Albatross N5846V For Sale $265,000 (http://www.prideaircraft.com/N5846V.htm) (price reduced)
That leaves you $305,000 for fuel, at current prices that is about 60,000 gallons which is 400 hrs of "hair on fire" flight time....:ok:
dublinpilot
22nd Oct 2009, 09:05
I would have thought that the operating costs of a jet would be more significant than the purchase price?
julian_storey
22nd Oct 2009, 09:21
You can pick up a tidy, late '70's Lear Jet for under $600,000 :-)
IO540
22nd Oct 2009, 09:25
A few years ago, somebody I know knew somebody who picked up three 747s for £600k each.
They were, shall we say, limited in the maximum pressure differential to about 25,000ft ;) but hey he only needed to fill 25 seats to break even.
He was able to operate them with a team of just five ground staff. Very little maintenance is required as this stuff is very reliable.
Naturally they ended up flying a significant distance from the UK ;)
All kinds of things are possible.
007helicopter
22nd Oct 2009, 17:28
The L39 looks a lot of fun but not very practical
MichaelJP59
22nd Oct 2009, 17:36
If you want to be totally impractical, single seat Hunters seem to go for less than £50K.
I guess if you take the small number of people who can both afford and want to fly one and combine with the number of people qualified to solo one you don't have a very big number of potential buyers:)
007
A Famous film actress owned one (forgot who) :) They are a four seater which considering that most business trips involve two to three passsengers makes the use of an 8 seater jet overkill.
I often thought there would be demand for a four seater and the Paris jet supplied that before its time.
A re engine and re fit with modern avionics should fill a niche nowadays. Go for it or if not you some one else ;)
Pace
Ryan5252
22nd Oct 2009, 22:21
Consider the late 70's Lear (or any other Exec jet for that matter) at about $600k - how would finance work for that? i.e how much would be looking at monthly and for how long?
englishal
24th Oct 2009, 06:53
I know someone who fly a chap in his Citation 500 across the USA and back. Fuel bill was over $20,000 !
Should have gone first class with a major airline!
IO540
24th Oct 2009, 07:16
Yes but what about STYLE :)
The other day I was flying back from a place in Spain and through security with us was the smartest looking crew I have ever seen. The two pilots looked the part (if you are into that sort of thing ;) ) but the two female cabin crew were something else - straight out of the 1960s :) Not one crease in any of the uniforms. Plus a trolley with pile of food and I don't think the food came from PizzaHut... I casually asked what plane he's got... It was a Global Challenger...
A trip like that has got to be worth $20k, surely?
007helicopter
25th Oct 2009, 17:41
Further news from Aviation week here
NBAA 2009 Special Report by AVIATION WEEK (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_airshow.jsp?channel=busav&id=news/NBPARIS102209.xml&show=nbaa2009)
With the current engines and problems keeping an aircraft based on a small fleet flying does not appear to be a very realistic option