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climbhappy
20th Sep 2009, 12:34
unemployed, went to a roadshow...anyone out there flying for them?

thanks

Brookfield Abused
21st Sep 2009, 11:05
First be careful which Agent you choose!
In my opinion only one does a good job.
The Roadshow was maybe a Resume' gathering project?
What experience do you have and what Fleet did you apply for?
It such a long road to getting to the Assessment you may never even get invited if the experience and Checks to do match.

climbhappy
23rd Sep 2009, 20:48
global pilot service did the road show that we went to...however , a capt Kai on the pilot career centre says he is the chief pilot and takes direct emails..don't quite get it with respect to a direct line and a third party bridge...looking for 737 work

JotaJota
24th Sep 2009, 01:43
My understanding is that HNA will be doing their own hiring, w/o an Agency. At least for pilots from the US, as that's what I was told... I will submit all the paperwork with the CP and see were that goes. Make sure that u have no rest in your Type, at least a 4 year deg from acc university, and all the FBI/Police records notarized by the CN embassy, etc.

I am with a Sub of HNA group, so this might not apply to you, but QOL and everything else is EXCELLENT for us!!! Keep on doing research and you might find a few HNA pilots as I know that they have several foreign p's... And they should be hiring more that 50 or so.

GL

MaintainYourHeading
25th Sep 2009, 15:31
Hello JotaJota.

I believe I know which branch you are flying for, I might even have crossed you in the office once !
Do you know if by any chance they are hiring F/Os at this time? Thanks

Julien

JotaJota
25th Sep 2009, 22:45
No FO's at all, well no foreign FO's that is, but plenty of CN ones.. They were contemplating that option but nope. Between the CAAC and other hurdles it was discarded...

We tried as we know many WELL qualified FO's that would love to come here... Oh well.

Sleek
26th Sep 2009, 06:01
Hi guys,
I checked the website for Hainan and they are not hiring.
I have submitted applications for China and would like to know anything abt China and airlines there? Do airlines in China only hire from agents and which agent to choose? I am being advised to be careful which agent to choose. Does anyone have any idea. Would like to know more from anyone who is in the process?
I have heard of Parc being good. Are there any other agents who are also recruiting?

JotaJota
26th Sep 2009, 11:09
climbto350.com is a great place to start... Well worth the paid sub. Rishworth, Direct Personnel, and PARC among other are OK!

climbhappy
28th Sep 2009, 21:14
Jota,
Is Global Pilot Service an established recruiter for HNA? i noticed their ad on pilotcareercentre just went from HIRING to Expanding

Sleek
29th Sep 2009, 08:23
HEY Guys just heard from pilots in china that HAINAN & its subsidiary don't pay that well. is it true? they are wanting to apply to Vietnam and Japan and of course KOREN AIR A330. most of the are saying Vietnam is hiring like crazy and their network will expand to US.Wouldn't we like to be there?
Anyone got info?
SLEEK.

thank you Jotajota, I looked up recruiters.

JotaJota
29th Sep 2009, 11:43
Climb, no clue on Global Pilot Serv... I have never heard of them.

HNA and it's subs pay more that the top 3 CN airlines... I would compare contracts but also look into pairings, QOL, bonuses, etc... Some of my friends at other airlines here in CN get pay similar, but they do 4 on 2 off, as we do an avg of 13-14 duty days per month, as our trips are EXTREMELY effective... Also as the bases are different, the cost of living could make a huge difference. So many factors to take into consideration.

Gather all the info you can before making the decision...

longobard
29th Sep 2009, 12:48
sleek,

as far as i know all recruitments in Vietnam airlines ar on hold. morever many pilots i know refused Parc and Rishworth terms and conditions (lowered by $1000/month for the first 12 months compared to the last year proposal)

take care.

jbayfan
29th Sep 2009, 22:41
Hainan is hiring direct entry A320 and B738 Captains. Pay is around $8,000 a month.

Sleek
8th Oct 2009, 07:08
Hey Jbayfan where did you find the direct hiring for Hainan? I have been looking around and haven't across any. Could you please send me the site. Thank you.

Sleek
8th Oct 2009, 07:12
Hey Longobard,
Thank you for the update.

ZH737
9th Oct 2009, 10:39
Guys,
I had a very bad experience when working for HNA. If you are unemployed and are a kind of top gun captain, just apply for screening, but be prepare to pay for all expense done. If, for a luck, you get successful in the process, be aware to have your money back. They use to spend about 06 month to refund your expenses. After all, be kindly and act like a dog, because some one will try to abuse you, since the beginning. Good luck!!:{:{

Sleek
10th Oct 2009, 00:57
Vietnam recruiter just replied saying they have paused on the hiring. Is that true? Is Vietnam slowing down? I know pilots in Asia are not quite happy with the way they deal with things back there.