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heliwanab
2nd Jun 2009, 16:55
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can anyone tell me if after going for my class 2 medical,jar or faa,sitting the private course then starting down the commercial route if being qualified automatically means a class 1 medical can be given?
i have eyesight issues and have been advised by an faa doctor to just go for the class 1 straight away.

Whirlygig
2nd Jun 2009, 17:14
If you want a commercial licence, get a Class1 straight away. If you fail that, then it saves wasted money on commercial training. Under JAA, your Class 1 can lapse into a Class 2, then to renew as Class 1 as you get your commercial licence. Renewal criteria are less stringent than initial.

Cheers

Whirls

Ayotteted
2nd Jun 2009, 17:14
Try looking here :ok:

Medical | Safety Regulation (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=49)

Ayotteted
2nd Jun 2009, 17:20
This may be helpfull

JAR Class 1 and 2 medicals | Medical | Safety Regulation (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=49&pagetype=68&gid=211)

Um... lifting...
2nd Jun 2009, 18:22
The FAA doc and Whirls are both correct. At your somewhat advanced age, it is silly to shell out a cent for training until you figure out if you're physically qualified since you say you have vision issues.
Don't know what a Class 1 Medical runs in the UK, but in the U.S. I get my FAA Class 1s with ECG for about US$130. A small price to pay to prevent shelling out thousands for training you may never be able to use. And, until you hit 40, the Class 1 turns into a Class 2, as Whirls points out.

Whirlygig
2nd Jun 2009, 18:52
A JAA Class 1 initial is currently £330 (a rare example of a CAA charge going down as it was £370 when I did mine) and a day trip to Gatwick.

Cheers

Whirls

photex
2nd Jun 2009, 20:26
If you let your Class 1 lapse do you have to go back to Gatwick or can your local AME do the job?

miket_68
2nd Jun 2009, 20:46
As long as your AME is Class 1 rated he/she can perform the renewal.

Well thats my plan anyway.

Mauw

500e
2nd Jun 2009, 21:28
"At your somewhat advanced age,":eek: so near to his maker not worth even trying then, not to encouraging to us older pilots, That is ageist I think:=

Um... lifting...
2nd Jun 2009, 22:34
Oh, my dear old 500e, go and boil your head, you silly person... I entered flying a decade earlier than heliwanab did on the old life calendar and I was referred to as being a bit "advanced" in age at that time (I paid for my training with my youth and my government footed the financial bit, AFTER they had run me through the medical mangle). I am now a decade older than he and still doing the job for a living, so it certainly CAN be done.

But... if one can't pass the medical (and our candidate apparently has some concerns on that score), it's just plain silly to shell out all the training money up front, especially at 37ish if the good poultice-walloper tells you haven't a prayer of ever earning it back.

It would be the height of dunderheadedness to fail to get a full Class 1 before signing a training contract, and it would be the height of irresponsibility to recommend to him otherwise.

Helinut
3rd Jun 2009, 09:25
Cut the waffle.

The only sensible advice is get the initial Class 1 medical done before you spend ANY of the tens of thousands to get your commercial licence.

This I suggest applies whoever you are. The medics can find all sorts of stuff you are not aware of.

The way things are going workwise, an insanity check would be a good idea too :rolleyes:

heliwanab
3rd Jun 2009, 17:19
um,,lifting,
sounds like a good sensible route to me.

500e sounds like a good guy(probably young too,damn it)
i certainly would want the class 1 in hand before signing on any dotted lines.
unfortunitly old age comes with investing and saving like mad to pay for the training.

so long as i get there i say....
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