Low flying Tornado

[ftrplt_fr]

Fly low, sweet chariot
Coming for to carry me home
Fly low, sweet chariot
Coming for to carry me home...http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/arabianjules/Tornadolow-pass.jpg

[L J R]

What a F***ing Idiot!

[pr00ne]

There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots. There are NO old bold pilots.

One rather terrified Nav I would imagine.............................

[cornish-stormrider]

That is doctored. there is no way that is real............ the wingtip vortex would be very different that close to the ground.

and the rear cockpit would be full of a brown liquid,

[taffair traff]

....................and to think another pilot in the news has been seen to endanger his aircraft and passengers. Paradox?

[Ten West]

+1 for Photoshop. :ok:

I would guess that there would be an awful lot more s**t and dust thrown up behind it if it were really flying like that.

Striking looking picture though.

[A2QFI]

Where are the pylons etc? Photoshop gets my vote.

[ftrplt_fr]

Not sure about a doctored picture. If the aircraft flew right above the runway, there could be no dust at all. There is no doubt that some bold pilot could have done such a risky maneuver, even if his WSO was calling out loud for his mummy...

[taffair traff]

If the picture has been "doctored" I'd love to know how the heat shimmer was "created" along the tree-line behind !! :confused:

[Load Toad]

The picture doesn't look right to me though I know **** all about wing tip vortices....the smudged trees under the fuselage and the direction of the sun on the plane compared to the pylon thing - it doesn't look natural. Looks good though.

[green granite]

I don't think I would be standing there calmly taking that photo, if it was real I'd be running like f**k.

[airborne_artist]

If the picture has been "doctored" I'd love to know how the heat shimmer was "created" along the tree-line behind !!

Easily done in Photoshop - read this article (http://aftereffects.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=34773)

[barnstormer1968]

Although the aircraft is clearly turning to port, it also looks as though it is climbing, which would mean it must have been lower.
While I realise it may have turned after it started to climb it does look not quite right.
As I'm not a flyer, can anyone more in the know, tell me if the left wing would be happy being pushed that close to the ground, and what effect would it have on lift/directional stability.

[forget]

The only interesting point here is that some people think it's real. :rolleyes:

[Kitbag]

No Laser, FLIR fairings, pylons not fitted, looks like a conical aerial just behind the cockpit makes me think its Italian, so yes it could be real.
I recall watching and holding my breath at a 1980's airshow (Mildenhall?)when an A10 did a very similar manoeuvre following a low slow pass.

[forget]

........ so yes it could be real. But it isn't. Take a look at the careful circular swirls in the dust wake. If that doesn't do it, see the dust wake in front of the number which should be well behind the number.

[taffair traff]

Airborne Artist
Heat Shimmer

Thanks for the reference. Guess it is back to my colouring book!!!:ouch:

[Benjybh]

But it isn't. Take a look at the careful circular swirls in the dust wake. If that doesn't do it, see the dust wake in front of the number which should be well behind the number.

Ten points to that man! :ok:
Didn't spot that myself - it's Italian too; it has a shark's mouth. :)

[Benjybh]

Equalising it in Photoshop shows where the image has been cut out: Compare the colour and roughness of the edge around the Tornado to that of the treeline (similar contrast).


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p204/bennybh/tonka.jpg

Nice try though :}

[JackRyan]

If you've seen any French flying videos you'd also know that Tornado is a few feet too high

:eek:

[nacluv]

The clincher for me is shadowing. If it was actually in that position, with the light on the upper surfaces at 12 o'clock to the fuselage axis, then where is the ground shadow??

Forget - if you imagine it is in silhouette...

[TEEEJ]

Interestingly the EXIF data is available on the image.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/arabianjules/Tornadolow-pass.jpg

Copy and paste the direct link into

Jeffrey's Exif viewer (http://regex.info/exif.cgi)

The basics on the image

'Camera: Canon EOS 350D

Lens: 100 - 400 mm

Exposure: Auto exposure, Action (High speed), 1/2,000 sec, f/6.3, ISO 400

Date: December 18, 2008 2:09:11PM (timezone not specified)
(3 months, 1 day, 18 hours, 55 minutes, 11 seconds ago, assuming an image timezone of US Pacific)'

Usually the photoshop images will be completely stripped of EXIF data. The Photobucket account might hold some clues?

TJ

[TEEEJ]

'arabianjules' is an e-goat poster and owner of the photobucket account

'i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/arabianjules/'

Oops..... - E-Goat :: The Totally Unofficial Royal Air Force Rumour Network forums (http://www.e-goat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=5794)

E-Goat :: The Totally Unofficial Royal Air Force Rumour Network forums - Search Results (http://www.e-goat.co.uk/forums/search.php?searchid=2134164)

TJ

[TEEEJ]

Arabianjules posted the image on the following forum this month

low level Tornado - FreeFalcon (http://www.freefalcon.com/forum/showthread.php?p=138020)

Profile/details of current job

FreeFalcon - View Profile: arabianjules (http://www.freefalcon.com/forum/member.php?u=9290)

TJ

[Nige321]

Usually the photoshop images will be completely stripped of EXIF data.

TEEEJ

No it doesn't, only if you specifically go into the file and edit /remove it...:ok:

Nige

[TEEEJ]

Thanks for the correction, Nige.

TJ

[boswell bear]

Another from his collection:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/arabianjules/Su30_RussianAF_ZhangjiajieChina_10M.jpg

[TEEEJ]

Quite a famous image that one.

Photos: Sukhoi Su-30LL Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-30LL/1027487/L/)

It looks even lower shot from the other side of the airfield! Photographer is on a raised bank.

Photos: Sukhoi Su-30LL Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-30LL/1025605/L/)

TJ

[Ten West]

Here's a famous one that was definitely not P-Chopped:

http://aboutfacts.net/Miracles/Miracles5/MIG29Crash.jpg

:eek: Ouch!

[Gericault]

Back to the picture title, can't recall ever hearing them being referred to as "sweet" chariots before .......:}

[TurningFinals]

The left hand spoiler on the Tornado is raised, so if this 'photo' were real the aircraft would have ploughed straight into the ground.

Nice photo shopping though.

[Griz]

The left hand spoiler is raised because it's banking left!!!

Ever think it may have been taken shortly after take-off?

Completely clean its really quite slippy.

[Al R]

This though, at Cott, could rank as one of the best fly bys. And before anyone asks, I know it happened because I saw it with my own eyes.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/thrust_01/vulcan/8304cbf5.jpg

[Al R]

Ah. Thats easily explained! Simple. The doors were stuck.

They got a techie to lie on his back and the idea was that if it did a low fly past, the guy would try and tap them one by one with a lump hammer. It must have been horrendous on the fuel, but it was a great spectacle. The BBC was asked to suppress the footage because it was feared that faith in the restoration programme might be undermined. I think that sufficient time has passed now though, to set the record straight. :cool:

[Benjybh]

The BBC was asked to suppress the footage because it was feared that faith in the restoration programme might be undermined. I think that sufficient time has passed now though, to set the record straight.

Keep an eye out in tomorrows Daily Mail for this... :}

[seafuryfan]

It's a real photo. The ac is actually in the foreground, not over the runway. The ground appears compressed due to the telephoto lens. The surface under the ac is not visible in the photo.

[ftrplt_fr]

So, there is a little bit more info about this crazy stunt :

Low level Tornado ECR David Cenciotti’s weblog - the most visited Italian Aviation Blog (http://cencio4.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/low-level-tornado-ecr/)

[taxydual]

So, could be real and not Photoshopped.

Bet, if it's real, the Nav's not Photoshopped but Photo****ted!.

[Fishtailed]

Equalising it in Photoshop shows where the image has been cut out: Compare the colour and roughness of the edge around the Tornado to that of the treeline (similar contrast).



Nothing showing round the port wing, nothing to prove it's not real to me. Plenty of jets have been flown with gusto like this, and the nav will have been enjoying it as much as the pilot. You'r missing something if you've never seen it, too much time sat in front of a computer with your anorak on. Photoshop:8

[forget]

Plenty of jets have been flown with gusto like this,

Italian Air Force. So if you know the pilot why don't you ask him? :)

[Aur]

If you read the comments on the blog page there is now a youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5NNEi9geQ)

[ftrplt_fr]

And here is the vid :

YouTube - Tornado very low altitude roll !! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5NNEi9geQ)

[Fishtailed]

Thanks ftrplt-fr, we can now 'forget' the non believers.:D

[TEEEJ]

Aur/ftrplt_fr,

Well done. Nice find!

:ok:


TJ

[phoenix5]

Quote

"That is doctored. there is no way that is real............ the wingtip vortex would be very different that close to the ground"

If you knew anything about aviation you'd know that at that AOB (angle of bank) the wing tip vortices would be nulled by the ground cushion. It takes two seconds to realise you'd have to be doing mach 1.5 for the vortices to be strong enough.

[ftrplt_fr]

A few more details collected here and there with an italian accent : this stunt happened at Cameri AB, with a returning Tornado from maintenance check. The pilot was asked to perform this wild ride, which was phtographed and filmed as you can see. Unfortunately for this pilot, a general heard about that and grounded the bast*** for 30 days.

[nacluv]

I stand corrected!

:ok: