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Finzolas
4th Mar 2009, 13:59
Dear all,

Does anyone is aware of the requirement to set Strobe lights ON before crossing a runway while taxiing (OFF again after) ? Any regulatory reference?

Thanks in advance for the contibution!

Fin

BOAC
4th Mar 2009, 14:17
I don't think there is a 'regulatory' ref, just good basic airmanship - BE SEEN! Logo light as well, torches out of the window....:hmm:

rigpiggy
4th Mar 2009, 14:49
It is not a reg just an AC, check sect. 3 but it makes sense and most carriers use this as SOP, , that said what does your FOM say

Straight from the FAA edited for length
USE OF EXTERIOR AIRCRAFT LIGHTS TO MAKE AIRCRAFT MORE CONSPICUOUS.
b. Exterior Lights. To the extent possible and consistent with aircraft equipage, operating limitations, and flightcrew procedures, pilots should illuminate exterior lights as follows:
(1) Engines Running. Turn on the rotating beacon whenever an engine is running.
(2) Taxiing. Prior to commencing taxi, turn on navigation, position, anti-collision, and logo lights, if available. To signal intent to other pilots, consider turning on the taxi light when the aircraft is moving or intending to move on the ground, and turning it off when stopped, yielding, or as a consideration to other pilots or ground personnel. Strobe lights should not be illuminated during taxi if they will adversely affect the vision of other pilots or ground personnel.
(3) Crossing a Runway. All exterior lights should be illuminated when crossing a runway.
CAUTION: Flightcrews should consider any adverse effects to safety that illuminating the forward facing lights will have on the vision of other pilots or ground personnel during runway crossings.
(4) Entering the departure runway for takeoff or “position and hold.” When entering a runway either for takeoff, or when taxiing into “position and hold,” flightcrews should make their aircraft more conspicuous to aircraft on final behind them and to ATC by turning on lights (except for landing lights) that highlight the aircraft’s silhouette. Strobe lights should not be illuminated if they will adversely affect the vision of other pilots.
Page 14 Par 7
9/26/03 AC 120-74A (5) Takeoff. Turn on landing lights when takeoff clearance is received, or when commencing takeoff roll at an airport without an operating control tower.
NOTE: The SOP of turning on landing lights when takeoff clearance is received is a signal to other pilots, ATC, and ground personnel that the aircraft is moving down the runway for takeof

marcosleo
4th Mar 2009, 14:54
It's not a requirement but there is a briefing leaflet of IFALPA:
use of aircraft external lights to aid runway incursion prevention.

Here's the link: http://www.ifalpa.org/BILLS/09AGEBL01_Use_of_external_lights_to_mitgate_runway_incursion _risk.pdf

Ciao
M.

411A
4th Mar 2009, 19:45
Strobe lights ON is very important, when on, or crossing, active runways.
Especially after the accident at LAX...which was very bad, IE: 737 (I think) 'landing' atop a Metro.
In that particular case the female (fully malcontent) tower controller was dismissed, forthwith.
Should have been 'dismissed' (the old fashioned way) at sunrise, IMO.
After this accident, the FAA cracked down...hard.

Light 'em up, folks.

XLNL
4th Mar 2009, 23:52
Agree, unfortunately our strobes are inhibited on ground (RJ85, but depends on mod AFAIK) so don't complain if you see they're off...

Finzolas
6th Mar 2009, 12:48
Thank you for all the informations, especially for the IFALPA bulletin!

Fin

Intruder
6th Mar 2009, 15:22
FAA Advisory Circular 120-74A is at http://www.airweb.faa.gov/.../AC120-74A.pdf (http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/331ca20530e3d4b086256dc000565d82/$FILE/AC120-74A.pdf)

Lighting recommendations start on page 14.

captjns
6th Mar 2009, 15:37
While it's not a requiremet... but then again commen sense isn't either.:E

con-pilot
6th Mar 2009, 16:39
411A

In that particular case the female (fully malcontent) tower controller was dismissed, forthwith.
Should have been 'dismissed' (the old fashioned way) at sunrise, IMO

Are you sure? I heard that she was sent back for retraining and assignined to a new location.

I may be wrong, in fact I hope I'm wrong.



(If I am right, she is probably in upper management by now, the way the FAA works.)