Another Airline goes bust

[Dougle Mcguire]

European Aviation Air Charter......... Just gone bust.

[Little Blue]

Again?!!!!!

[jetstream7]

captplaystation, Ozjet were sold earlier this year so no links to PS anymore.

Dougie McGuire, what's the source of your info?

Airline was still flying earlier today I understand ('Alpha Echo).

[Dougle Mcguire]

AE is on it's way to the States as we speak. It's technically a private flight to Indianapolis. The word is that it's going to the desert to be laid to rest.......... Don't think so.

[CABUS]

Do they also operate the Palmair flights?

[davidjohnson6]

Dougle - do you happen to have a web link about this ? Google didn't come up with any significant news...

[RoyHudd]

Very sad...more jobs gone, and probably very suddenly. It feels awful when you get the news. Sympathy.

[RingwaySam]

Very sad news :sad:

Do they also operate the Palmair flights?

Wikipedia shows there only 737-200 (Palmair) as Wet-leased from, and uses the air operator's certificate of, European Aviation Air Charter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Aviation_Air_Charter)

[electricdeathjet]

I am so sorry to hear this, I hope that everyone gets what is owed to them and that pr**k Stoddart doesnt shaft everyone again!
I really wish the very best of luck to all in the firing line....
edj

[The Big Easy]

I thought they went bust years ago. How many airframes did they operate?

TBE.

[Basil]

Shame, good people, fun outfit - pity about the boss :*

[Mach E Avelli]

EAAC is no longer propping up Ozjet. Paul S flogged it to a like-minded individual earlier this year, reportedly for 'MILLIONS'. At least that was the boast at the time.

[loopylee]

so whos gonna be flying palmair flights now??

[Flightrider]

Is this confirmed? I can't find anything official about it and also knew that one or two of the 737-200s were about to be permanently retired as they were coming due for major checks which it wasn't worth doing. Could this be a case of someone putting two and two together and getting nineteen or is there indeed a problem?

[lwaw1uk]

Jet2 are doing todays Palma air Flight..

[Goffee]

EUROPEAN AVIATION: WE'VE RUN OUT OF MONEY (From Bournemouth Echo) (http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/3938024.EUROPEAN_AVIATION__WE_VE_RUN_OUT_OF_MONEY/)

Cobham's In Flight Refuelling is also letting 100 people (http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/3938027.100_jobs_go_at_Flight_Refuelling/) go nearby

And Palmair are looking for new planes to fly as they borrowed theirs (http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/3938025.Business_as_usual_for_Palmair/)from European


Bad old day for Bmth really!

[CABUS]

Another stupid question coming up, is inflight refulling FRA? I have friends who fly for them. I never thought they would have a problem as they work on contracts for the NAVY from BOH doing some pretty cool flying!

[Goffee]

Nah CABUS,

FRA are a different firm [EDIT - although part of Cobham - didn't know that] and, I'd imagine, a very happy bunch of campers, right next to the MoD's money trough, given their RAF/Navy love-in.

IFR is based in Wimborne, down the road

[Le Tirer]

All part of Cobham Plc.

FR Aviation (FRA) operate out of BOH (and Teesside)

Flight Refuelling Limited (FRL) have a factory in Wimborne manufacturing in-flight refuelling equipment amongst other things.

Although almost 100 jobs are being cut at FRL, the Cobham Director of Communications does say:
“We would like to achieve this reduction by voluntary means as much as possible and will make all reasonable attempts to find suitable alternative employment within FRL and sister companies.”

LT

[fincastle84]

It was a very sad morning this morning at EAAC, particularly as an investor had been negotiating to take over the airline for several months. Everything was agreed & then he suddenly disappeared.
Paul Stoddart did everything he could to make it work & put in a lot of his own money in an attempt to keep it going, so please, no more rude comments about him.
No, I'm not an accountant, just another ex employee now sadly no longer employed by what was one of the happiest companies in the world.
My sincere best wishes to all my ex colleagues for a happy & successful future.
PER ARDUA AD ASTRA.

[luddite]

:{
My heart goes out to all of you who now find yourselves out of work in these desperate times. The last rumours I heard were that all was looking rosy for a buyout and (finally!) some newer aircraft. Sad news indeed. I had five great years of flying there, best flying job ever for sheer variety (even if we did whinge about the night flights to Kazakstan and even though I was made redundant not once but twice).
Here's hoping you all come out of the other side of this and find something else soon. There but the grace of god...

[freightdoggy dog]

Jet2 appear to be picking up the flying left in the wake of EAACs demise

BHX-BLQ..rock band
MIR-BOH...stranded pax
BOH-FUE-BOH..Palmair
BOH-ACE-BOH..Palmair
BOH-TFS-BOH...Palmair

Jet 2 Cros Handling will be busy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ok:

[Towerman]

Who are the Administrators?

[Chicken_or_Beef]

Very sorry to hear this news.

Yet again a great set of people that I feel for, especially at this time of year. I have used them many times and if any of you are reading this, sincere thanks for all your co operation and help over the years.

Wishing you the best for your futures.

[haughtney1]

It was a very sad morning this morning at EAAC, particularly as an investor had been negotiating to take over the airline for several months. Everything was agreed & then he suddenly disappeared.

Insert Silverjet, Zoom, XL etc etc...all of whom were in remarkably similar positions to EAAC with respect to financiers and the like.
My heart goes out to all the EAAC staff, enjoy the festive season as best you can guys and gals.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Another 'Brick' falls from the wall!!

Iv'e lost count now how many we have lost this year...

EAC were a reliable well ran Company, And I personally thought PS would survive this 'Difficult' period, But sadly not!!

The other sad thing is, He was actually personally interested in the Aviation Business he was running, Unlike some current Airline Bosses who don't seem to have the passion!!

I think there is more of a 'Deep' root to this problem of Airlines/Companies going under, Take the British population, There not interested in Aircraft or Aviation?

They wouldn't know the difference between a 'Bus' and an Airbus?

As they always joke getting on their flights - 'Oh it's just a bus with wings on' how many times are we 'Sick' of hearing that one?

If the interest isn't there, Then the investment isn't there is it?

People would rather spend their money on a 'mobile' phone or an 'Overpriced' car than spend it on a Holiday or a Flight!!

If the people of this Country supported our UK Airlines/Operators more, Then we may have averted some of the Airline failures of this year?

What I mean by supporting is, By booking Holidays, Flights with UK Airlines/Operators instead of booking with foreign ones.

The other main problem here is, The population doesn't understand how an Airline works? All they see is a Travel/Call Centre operator pressing buttons, And that's it!

I know I am having a moan, But I am getting 'frustrated' now with all this 'Bad' news, Although I am not personally affected, It still has a 'Knock On Effect'!!

And the 'So called' Govt = They don't need Airlines they have the good old RAF to transport them around, Even thou they are running (them) the RAF on a 'Tightrope'!

As I have said in another post, It's funny how people have the money for A 'Silly' & Pointless Xmas, But not the money to book Holidays & Flights!!

You maybe think I'm talking rubbish, But just think of all those extra Holiday & Flight bookings that could be made by the population of the UK, But are not booked because they don't think about the 'Struggling' Airlines, And the fact that it is only time now before there will be no Airlines in Business?

(Nothing Is Unsinkable)

[Channex101]

I worked for EAC the first time black wednesday hit on Feb 17th 2004, not a nice experience.
All i can say is my heart goes out to the people of EAC who have just lost their job 24 days before chrsitmas.
RIP EAL and good luck to all those that made it a fab place to work in its hay day!!! i loved it

[BYALPHAINDIA]

It will also sadly be the end of the 737-200 in the history of UK Airlines as well, A much loved 'Workhorse' for the last X amount of years.

All because the 'greedy' Banks & Finance Co's won't help keep them alive!!!!

I'm So MAD!!!!!!!!!!

[joniveson]

Take the British population, There not interested in Aircraft or Aviation?

People would rather spend their money on a 'mobile' phone or an 'Overpriced' car than spend it on a Holiday or a Flight!!

If the people of this Country supported our UK Airlines/Operators more, Then we may have averted some of the Airline failures of this year?

What I mean by supporting is, By booking Holidays, Flights with UK Airlines/Operators instead of booking with foreign ones.

The other main problem here is, The population doesn't understand how an Airline works? All they see is a Travel/Call Centre operator pressing buttons, And that's it!

So the UK public should book flights and holidays just in order to keep flight crews in work then? Whilst I appreciate you are frustrated it is not just airlines that are going bust - perhaps if people bought more pick and mix Woolworths wouldn't be in trouble, maybe people should have new fitted kitchens more often to keep MFI going....

Also with regards to your comment about booking holidays and flights with UK airlines and operators, the paying customer has little control over who they fly with when booking a package holiday. For many people who use the smaller regional airports that choice is limited even further and foreign carriers are usually the only option.

I am sorry to hear that another airline has gone bust just as I am sorry to hear about the Aston Martin, Credit Suisse and HSBC staff who are also losing their jobs today.

[Guzlin Adnams]

Sorry to hear this news. Flew with them to Corfu in August and although those 737 200's where showing their age both trips where a pleasure. Flight crew and cabin staff were a credit to the company. Good luck to all those affected.:sad:

[smith]

If the people of this Country supported our UK Airlines/Operators more, Then we may have averted some of the Airline failures of this year?

It really makes me cringe booking on ryanair, flying between two UK airports on an IRISH airline.

I'd much rather fly easy and keep the cash in the UK than on FR where the profits go to that thieving gypsy MOL.

Come on folks lets revolt and stop booking on FR en masse and keep the UK airlines flying.

[Ballymoss]

BYALPHAINDIA

You have surpassed yourself with that passionate post. Fact is, people are SKINT, and if they feel able to afford a holiday will take the cheapest option (I said skint, not stupid). There is a slowly building economic crisis which, even you as a TOM driver should recognise.

The 732, great a/c as it was is a tired old bird now, well beyond its BBE of date! Allow it to pass gracefully!

As for 'overpriced' cars, pick your make and model, get down to your local dealer and negotiate. They will bite your arm off for a hugely discounted sale just now.

Rgds
The Moss:ok:

[Jet2]

There is a slowly building economic crisis which, even you as a TOM driver should recognise.


He's not a Thomson Driver.

Sad to hear about EAAC .... good luck to all the unfortunate ones affected. The boom always follows at some stage!!

[dreamliner787]

Yet again a great set of people that I feel for, especially at this time of year

I agree. :( Good luck to all and others in the same situation.

A huge pleasure working with you guys over the last couple of years.

Dream x

[Crewing Gimp]

Sorry to hear the bad news again.:* Having worked with alot of you guys for a very enjoyable number of years, I wish you all the best of the luck finding future employment.

The Gimp

[Stanstedeye]

He's not a Thomson Driver.

Sad to hear about EAAC .... good luck to all the unfortunate ones affected. The boom always follows at some stage!!


But did not our PM say that there would be no more boom or bust ?

[DILLIGAFF]

Indeed our PM did say there will be no more boom and bust.
But you could tell he was lying - his lips were moving.
D

[Buster66]

Like so many others, I was sorry to hear the news and can only wish all the
staff affected good luck.

I totally agree with fincastle84... Let's not give the boss a hard time.

As one of those affected in 2004 - and having been there since the early
days, I know that, having sold the majority of the business in
2002, he then took it back over only after
the "management consultancy" did what they did. Just in time, in fact, to
take all the flak from the (few) ignorant and misinformed :mad: staff who
were generally too junior to know any better. And let's face it, it lasted this
long in trying times... He clearly has had to take tough decisions in tough
times. Good luck to all.

I had some of my most interesting and informative times in aviation with
them. Thanks for that.

Farewell EAF/E7/EAAC Ltd. My thoughts are with you.
The Fat Controller

[BYALPHAINDIA]

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Oh dear..
BYALPHAINDIA

Fact is, people are SKINT, and if they feel able to afford a holiday will take the cheapest option (I said skint, not stupid). .

As for 'overpriced' cars, pick your make and model, get down to your local dealer and negotiate. They will bite your arm off for a hugely discounted sale just now.

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Why are they 'Skint'?

Because they don't have any 'Money Management' Experience.

They have lived beyond their means for too long?

I am a 'Cash Man' and pay for everything in cash!

If I can't afford it, Then I don't have it.

RIP - 737-200.

[Skipness One Echo]

I am a 'Cash Man' and pay for everything in cash!


Clearly you don't fly much. I wouldn't try that if you ever decide to go the the US.... They get suspicious of wheelbarrows full of used notes (!)

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Don't do Credit Cards

[CargoOne]

I think European was the last 732 operator in EU? There used to be one 732 in Slovakia as well but not operating for some time.

Hope everyone will find a new job soon, althogh it seems that JAA ATPL with 732 t/r have no use any more :(

[BYALPHAINDIA]

You could be right?

Aviogenex had a 732, I don't know if it is still active/ Or if the Airline is even still active?

It was Nice to see a 732 (Pig) making a 'Noise' on roll out R24L on a summers day!!

[mmeteesside]

Believe Cityline Hungary have a 732 working cargo contracts in Italy.