Thomson Airways [Archive] - Page 7

OltonPete

11th May 2013, 21:07

Just an update on the 757 divert into Gatwick and how Thomson resolved this with some delay but pretty good aircraft use.

BHX-ADB diverted in to Gatwick on a 7700 squawk at around 16.00 local.

The original aircraft "BF" seems to still be in Gatwick but the replacement aircraft has just departed for ADB from LGW.

This was made possible by re-directing BHX based 738 "ZX" from a postioning flight VRN-BHX to LGW. It had operated the first Saturday BHX-VRN flight of the season and I assume it was due to return to BHX empty (assuming none of last Wedesdays pax were coming back early) but instead the aircraft was sent to Gatwick to operate the delayed ADB.

Neat solution assuming that all the pax got away somehow as the original was a 757 and the replacement a 738. I would imagine not a problem on the return leg as early in the season.

Pete

whitelighter

11th May 2013, 21:13

Anyone know what the two additional STN destinations are?

Thompson staff member said they were under wraps.

nsherrin15

11th May 2013, 22:13

G-OOBF doesn't seem to be having a good time at the moment as it was based in BRS but due to having a major tech delay a replacement 75 was sent to BRS to operate the scheduled flight, BF then positioned to Birmingham later in the day.

gilesdavies

11th May 2013, 23:14

Would anyone know what aircraft types and how many aircraft are being based at Luton this year?

Just flicking through the Thomson 2013 brochure, looking to book something for this year and looking in the back pages, I noticed frequencies on a number of routes looked lower than in previous years.

There is even no flights to Alicante this year this Thomson from Luton!

Traditionally Luton was always one of the larger bases after the big three (LGW, BHX and MAN), but it seems now to be a lot further down the pecking order. East Midlands seems to have quite a few more flights and similar numbers to what use to be smaller bases, like Cardiff and Bristol.

I think the 2014 brochure is out soon, any insiders know how the Luton base fares next year?

airhumberside

12th May 2013, 09:00

The 2014 brochures are out already

Nyerp

12th May 2013, 18:20

They havn't operated to Alicante from luton for a long time. It looks as though it will be the usual 2x 738 and 1x 757. If you consider that FCA based an a320 there, then the drop is quite significant since they merged. However this seems to be the way things are going at ltn, Mon are also operating less flights, only ezy have more seats available than 2012 on routes such as Malaga and Palma, Tom and Mon have quite a few less. As for 2014 and extra Rhodes and Lanzarote and the sat Ibiza is no longer a w flight.

IrishFlyer2013

12th May 2013, 18:34

Thomson will be operating Luton to Skiathos for Summer 2014. The flights operate every Friday.

nsherrin15

14th May 2013, 12:00

G-OOBF that was enroute from Birmingham to Izmir that diverted a few days back was due to a lighting strike near LHR.

britboy2

14th May 2013, 13:57

The A/C used to get then to ADB In the end Night stopped while FD took there rest in turkey, then went back to Man empty . Pax on the IB where split between the LGW & MAN on the sat.

busz

14th May 2013, 14:00

Yup, i brought 60 of the pax back to MAN

britboy2

14th May 2013, 19:31

I took them to turkey :)

MikeyMoo

14th May 2013, 21:02

First confirmed 787 flights:-

https://portal.tuiuk.com/f5-w-687474703a2f2f636c69636b$$/global/show_picture.asp?id=aaaaaaaaaaatziw&w=105&h=105&F5CH=I
Dreamliner Update - 14th May 2013Dreamliner Short / Mid Haul flights - 14th May 2013 - 12.30pm
BUSINESS BRIEF
Media Statement
Thomson Airways can confirm that from 21 June 2013 it will be operating the 787 Dreamliner on selected short haul and mid haul routes, before its first long haul flights on 8 July 2013.

We are delighted to welcome the Thomson 787 Dreamliner to our fleet, and are pleased that we can give some of our customers travelling to short and mid haul destinations this summer the chance to experience the benefits of this revolutionary aircraft.

The operation of a new aircraft on short haul routes before it enters long haul service is normal practice for all airlines and the Dreamliner will fly on selected routes from 21 June 2013 onwards.

END

Which flights have been affected
Flights currently planned to operate on 21 June:

London Gatwick to Mahon (Menorca) TOM4536
Mahon (Menorca to London Gatwick TOM4537
London Gatwick to Mahon (Menorca) TOM4554
Mahon (Menorca) to London Gatwick TOM4555
Flight currently planned to operate on 22 June include:

London Gatwick to Palma (Majorca) TOM4600
Palma (Majorca) to London Gatwick TOM4601
London Gatwick to Rhodes TOM4660
Rhodes to London Gatwick TOM4661
Flights currently planned to operate on 23 June include:

London Gatwick to Heraklion (Crete) TOM4706
Heraklion (Crete) to London Gatwick TOM4707
London Gatwick to Enfidha (Tunisia) TOM 612
Enfidha (Tunisia) to London Gatwick TOM 613

Iver

14th May 2013, 23:52

Hope those new 787 pilots actually enjoy those "short" flights while they can. :ok: Pretty soon 8-10 hour flights will be the norm (although the destinations are probably worth it :}).

nsherrin15

19th May 2013, 16:15

I see G-OOBP has a white winglet, anybody know why? Maybe damage to the winglet.

mikkie4

19th May 2013, 21:44

Thomson new service to palma mallorca starts next week (23rd) using volotea B-717 from southend ,good luck to all

pamann

19th May 2013, 21:58

Thomson new service to palma mallorca starts next week (23rd) using volotea B-717 from southend ,good luck to all

Announced last year when brochure launched. Old news now tbh.

BOH

21st May 2013, 17:50

It might be old news to you but it starts next week so it is extremely relevant!

Stop being a troll

pamann

21st May 2013, 18:10

I think you need to look up the definition of 'Troll' and crawl back under your rock on Bournemouth beach. :D

zjc123

24th May 2013, 20:13

Has the delivery schedule for the 787's changed slightly on the internet im seeing

G-TUIA 31st at 11:00
G-TUIB 1st at 06:50
G-TUIC 14th at 06:50

Can anyone confirm?

Thanks

ZJC

flybar

25th May 2013, 07:42

Thomson seem to be in a pickle at LBA this morning!!

LBIA

25th May 2013, 11:13

Thomson seem to be in a pickle at LBA this morning!!

Yep it seems Thomson's are back up to there old tricks again at LBA. The based Sunwing Boeing 737-800, C-FLZR positioned out to DUB this morning leaving no aircraft to operate this mornings flight to PMI and RHO later this afternoon.

I understand that a G-FDZW will position in from MAN this afternoon to operate the delayed PMI service but at this moment in time I haven't a clue as to what will operate the RHO flight later....

OltonPete

25th May 2013, 11:23

zjc123

Reports on another forum is that G-TUIB is ready for delivery but the status of G-TUIA is not clear.

G-TUIA has now had 5 or 6 Customer flights with the latest yesterday.

It was suggested there were some small issues to be ironed out from the previous Customer flights.

C5 or C6 flights are not unknown but usually a C1 or C2 is enough.

Whether any of this affects the delivery dates I don't know.

Pete

Flight number 8 took place 25/5 for about 45 mins out to west

From libhomeradar including at least one B1 flight

24/05/24 00:57 BOE317 BOE317 - G-TUIA

Boeing B788 show
2013/05/18 01:12 BOE317 BOE317 - G-TUIA

Boeing B788 show
2013/05/17 15:39 BOE317 BOE317 - G-TUIA

Boeing B788 show
2013/05/14 18:03 BOE317 BOE317 - G-TUIA

Boeing B788 show
2013/05/09 19:42 BOE317 BOE317 - G-TUIA

Boeing B788 show
2013/05/01 00:00 BOE317 BOE317 - G-TUIA

Boeing B788 show
2013/04/30 23:39

zjc123

25th May 2013, 11:40

Thanks for replying I had noticed that TUIA has done more activity in terms of test flights that many other of the 787's at KPAE.

I hope they sort out the issues quickly Thomson don't want any more delays into their flying program.

Ill keep my eyes peeled on here for any updates

Thanks

ZJC

danielsirrom

25th May 2013, 16:55

Wrt Leeds Bradford today I noticed the Palma flight was being listed as boarding buses earlier, the Rhodes flight is listed as cancelled. How can they cancel the flight, won't it have many package holidaymakers booked to be on-board?

TSR2

25th May 2013, 17:20

the Rhodes flight is listed as cancelled.

If you look at the Thomson Flights status, TOM3646 is a Manchester to Rhodes flight at 12.00 on Sunday so I would suggest that it appeared on the LBA departure board in error.

sealink

25th May 2013, 17:59

Looks like TOM have a big delay at BFS also.

GAZMO

25th May 2013, 18:11

BFS flight from ACE is two days late!!
Not a great start to the season.......but at least it's two extra days holiday.
Still on BFS website as indefinite delay

plaincrazy

25th May 2013, 18:35

TOM3646 does operate from LBA but due to the earlier delay this flight is now operating from MAN on Sunday.

j636

25th May 2013, 18:37

The aircraft based operated the first DUB-CFU flight yesterday and after it returned it positioned to ACE where it was due to take the ACE-BFS flight to DUB and arrive at 02.10 this morning and a bus transfer to BFS to allow DUB schedules not to be affected today however the ACE departure at 22.45 last night was further delayed and was planned for 09.00 this morning. The LBA based aircraft positioned to DUB this morning and is operating PMI and LPA all be it with a 3 hour delay. I haven not checked if the ACE-BFS departed as planned this morning. These problems at DUB and BFS are fine this week as there are many positinibg flights this but mext week will be a different story.

If you BFS passengers I wouldn't worry to much as in previous years if the BFS aircraft is tech a lot hey will swap it with a DUB on Saturdays in PMI to protect BFS services but they don't care much for DUB flights. It will be another summer 2011 at DUB this year with weekly cancelled flights and replacement aircraft a from MAN sent to cover.

The reason is they have far more to lose at BFS if there operations suffer compared to DUB.

Do TOM have aircraft on standby this year like last?

EDIT- Just checked and the 09.00 dep from ACE this morning is now estimated for 21.10 tonight. So if it operates LBA will return to normal tomorrow

GAZMO

25th May 2013, 19:14

The TOM flight from LPA to BFS is now cancelled. Maybe they are flying to ACE to pick up the Belfast pax

IrishFlyer2013

25th May 2013, 20:54

Yes TOM1679 was Cancelled to take the pax back to BFS from ACE. FYLC positioned over to ACE from LPA. It has now departed ACE for BFS. :ok:

FYUH has left ACE as well. It's positioning to LBA as TOM1679F.

FLZR was based in LBA but had to position to DUB this morning to operate Thomson's flights from there. An a/c had to position from MAN to LBA to operate the delayed TOM3618 (LBA-PMI).

FYLC was based in DUB but positioned to BFS yesterday to operate TOM1568 (BFS-TFS). It is still based in BFS.

zjc123

26th May 2013, 20:22

Having undertaken another flight test yesterday does anyone have information on the status of TUIA?

ZJC

nsherrin15

26th May 2013, 20:30

G-TUIA & G-TUIB are both ready for delivery. IA is due 31st May, IB is due 1 Jun.

zjc123

26th May 2013, 22:12

I was reading above that some problems have arisen with G-TUIA that may delay delivery so I was referring to that.

G-TUIC is airborne today for her first flight as BOE319 left KPAE at 23:00 UK time for a flight to Grant

Z.J.C

EI-BUD

27th May 2013, 06:45

Flight currently planned to operate on 22 June include:

London Gatwick to Palma (Majorca) TOM4600
Palma (Majorca) to London Gatwick TOM4601
London Gatwick to Rhodes TOM4660
Rhodes to London Gatwick TOM4661

Hi MickeyMoo,
Can I ask if you know is this information still accurate, i.e. that the 787 will operate these flights?

Thanks,
EI-BUD

nsherrin15

27th May 2013, 09:51

Well, according to the Boeing 787 tracking blog G-TUIA is still ready for delivery, and this blog is updated automatically every 5 minutes.

IrishFlyer2013

27th May 2013, 10:31

G-TUIA is due for delivery this Friday (31 May) at 11:00.

G-TUIB is due for delivery on Saturday (1 June) at 06:50.

G-TUIC is due for delivery on the 14th June.

The first revenue flight will be LGW-Mahon as stated above.

Line Training will be undertaken next month at regional airports including Doncaster, Cardiff, Prestwick, Shannon and Hannover.

This is according to this website; Airport Spotting Blog » Blog Archive » Thomson 787 entry into service details (http://www.airportspotting.com/thomson-787-entry-service-details/)

nsherrin15

27th May 2013, 11:16

That's great news, I shall be heading to CWL for sure when the line training is happening there!

EK77WNCL

27th May 2013, 15:15

Hi,

So has anyone actually got a schedule for TOM's 787 short haul flights/can you actually specifically book them?

I would definately be interested.

Thank you

EDIT: Sorry, sorry, just seen MickeyMoo's post, however if anyone has any more information I'm sure many will be very grateful :)

oldbalboy

27th May 2013, 17:40

at th moment schedules for 787 on s/haul quite random ex man/lgw but once all 4 a/c in service it will be more regular for remainder of season, as far as I am aware they are not planning to advertise which flights for remainder of summer but that could change! the flights planned so far are all replacing rotations planned on 757 which will act as stby for rest of fleet so capped at max 221 pax.

EK77WNCL

27th May 2013, 23:10

Ah right, nice surprise for some people then, thanks a lot :)

pez1

28th May 2013, 04:51

NQY also to be used for line training/circuits for the 787's.

lwaw1uk

28th May 2013, 12:36

was going around over the weekend that a Thomas B787 will be at Bournemouth on Monday 3rd June from 0900am to 1600pm from Manchester !

oldbalboy

28th May 2013, 13:51

quite possible as not just Newquay being used for circuit training & BOH not very busy! will also give TOM chance to show it off around UK!

EI-A330-300

28th May 2013, 14:48

According to an article in a newspaper the B787 will spend 3 weeks in SNN in June for training.

MikeyMoo

28th May 2013, 16:45

currently the training schedule shows visits to NQY, SNN, PIK, DSA, CWL & MAN.

The first commercial flights are planned as I posted above on the 21-23rd june (pax notified of change in advance) and a regular schedule starts on the 24th (pax notified at check-in), there is also a promo flight scheduled for the 8th, LGW-MAH (I believe though that has not been confirmed)

pez1

29th May 2013, 06:19

As above. No BOH visits scheduled in the training programme as of now. TUIA looks like it will be base training at NQY from MAN, and TUIB will be on the ground at MAN on the 3rd June.

loopylee

29th May 2013, 09:30

Thats not what im hearing.. 788 in BOH on 18th June 10.15am!

LAX_LHR

29th May 2013, 09:45

According to an article in a newspaper the B787 will spend 3 weeks in SNN in
June for training

It wont be on the ground for a full 3 weeks. It will position in/out from MAN and in the 3 weeks, flights will also be undertaken at NQY/PIK/CWL and DSA.

I believe about 5 training flights are planned at SNN.

nsherrin15

29th May 2013, 10:52

Anybody know when it will be in CWL? (mae unrhyw un yn gwybod pryd y mae yn CWL?)

cornishsimon

29th May 2013, 16:30

Quite a good thing for NQY to pull off considering the airline doesn't actually operate into the airport.

Quiet airspace, long runway etc

cs

fatmed

29th May 2013, 20:04

Was on board TOM 767 today from NBE to LGW. They were informing people to visit man on 31st for a 787 launch bash with freebies and souvenirs to celebrate and a press conference.

pez1

29th May 2013, 21:00

Yes, TUIA will visit BOH on the 18th, as well as CWL, SNN, HAJ and back to MAN.

G-TYNE

30th May 2013, 09:18

G-TUIA due at Manchester 1000z tomorrow. TOM9768 from KPAE

ETOPS

31st May 2013, 06:10

On her way - ETA 0938z

zjc123

31st May 2013, 06:53

Anyone know if G-TUIB is still due tomorrow?

BFS BHD

31st May 2013, 08:54

Seems to be taking a trip over Scotland at the min training?

mathers_wales_uk

31st May 2013, 08:57

Tui places £4bn next gen 737 order

Tui Travel has placed an order of 60 Boeing 737 Max aircraft with deliveries from Jan 2018 until March 2023.

They also have options for 90 further aircraft.

News article - Travel Weekly via Wales Air Forum (http://walesairforum.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/tui-places-4-billion-next-gen-737-order/)

Curious Pax

31st May 2013, 09:07

Seems to be taking a trip over Scotland at the min training?

Reportedly to ensure an on time arrival at 11am at MAN!

Evanelpus

31st May 2013, 09:11

Quote:
Originally Posted by BFS BHD
Seems to be taking a trip over Scotland at the min training?

Reportedly to ensure an on time arrival at 11am at MAN!

Now that makes good sense:ok:

tumtiddle

31st May 2013, 09:36

It's just over Burnley at FL140...could be an early arrival or maybe they'll hold somewhere on purpose.

AirGuru

31st May 2013, 10:01

She's landed !

nsherrin15

31st May 2013, 10:30

Watched her flight right from the beginning, I listened to KPAE atc when they requested taxi, then watched KPAE live webcam and seen her depart. Then finally watched her from north Scotland all the way down to short finals at MAN, it's safe to say I'm tired! If anyone wants to watch G-TUIB takeoff from KPAE tonight here's the link for the atc and webcam, Paine Field/Snohomish County Airport WebCam (http://www.painefield.com/webcam.html)
Airport Detail: KPAE | LiveATC.net (http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=KPAE) :)

Trevor Hannant

31st May 2013, 10:32

Held it over Blackburn for a couple of loops - so this shot was taken at 6.5 miles out with my trusty 300mm lens

Beautiful day for it! TUIB is still due in tomorrow but anyone got an approximate date for TUIC?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLlgLVxCEAEzWQ_.jpg

ematom1

31st May 2013, 11:30

BBC News - Tui Travel to buy 60 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22727238)

TUI agrees to buy 60 737 max aircraft with a further 30 options, I assume Thomson to get 737 max aircraft aswell then? Another website saying there having a mix of 800s & 900s?

AP1995

31st May 2013, 14:26

Yes I would presume they do, I hope they receive/order the 900's, it will be great to see them flying in the UK again!

jethro15

31st May 2013, 15:18

40 MAX 8's 20 MAX 9's due between Jan 18 and Mar 23, wiith an additional 90 options. All subject to shareholder approval.

Curious Pax

31st May 2013, 15:47

Friends down in Cornwall are asking about when is best to see the 787 landing/on the deck when it is down for training over the next few weeks. I realise that's probably difficult to answer with precision, but if anyone can indicate whether the bulk of time will be spent doing approaches/touch&go at Newquay, or away doing circles out over the Atlantic it would be much appreciated.

IrishFlyer2013

31st May 2013, 16:09

NQY Airport have posted on there PPRuNe account that the B787 will be in NQY tomorrow. It will arrive at 12:00 and depart at 18:00.

It will also be in SNN on Tuesday.

ZOOKER

31st May 2013, 17:42

AirGuru and sherrin,
How are you able to determine the sex of this aeroplane?

Shed-on-a-Pole

31st May 2013, 18:27

How can you lead the 'Vets' pub quiz team if you don't know that? If you sleep at the top of Mount Belzoni the answer will come to you in a Dream[liner]. :-)

ZOOKER

31st May 2013, 18:49

Good evening Shed, I hope you're well. I suspect your shutter was operational this morning, and will be on the 'morrow for 'IB Wx looks good.

zjc123

31st May 2013, 19:16

Yet to see any photos of the 787 cabin anyone know why none seem to have appeared?

virginblue

31st May 2013, 19:27

So I guess the 20 737 MAX9 are replacements for Thomson's Boeing 757-200s, while the other 40 Boeing 737 MAX8 could end up with any of TUI Travel's airlines (with the excpetion of Corsair). Not sure who will be given priority? I guess it could be TUIfly as they have, IIRC, the oldest fleet of Boeing 737-800s, being one of the launch customers for the type. They will have to replace 25 or so airframes.

TSR2

31st May 2013, 20:18

Yet to see any photos of the 787 cabin anyone know why none seem to have appeared?

Look on the Thomson website and click on 'Thomson Dreamliner' for a guided tour.

peacock1

31st May 2013, 20:19

Best wishes with your fantastic new toy to all at Thomson, from the Emerald Isle!

zjc123

31st May 2013, 20:29

Ive seen the mock ups was wanting to see the real photos.

nsherrin15

31st May 2013, 21:28

For cabin shots type in G-TUIA on Flickr and there is one or two shots of the cabin

OltonPete

31st May 2013, 22:50

nsherrin15

Thank you for the webcam link although it isn't the greatest quality but I did get to see the second 787 depart at 23.00 UK time on delivery althoug the live ATC did help.

There have been a lot of posts re aircraft training but is there going to be a publicity tour for the aircraft to the other airports it will opertaing from in the next 12-18 months such as EMA, BHX, GLA, NCL etc

Pete

Bond'll Do

1st Jun 2013, 00:24

:ugh:

Dreamliner.....Dream-on! folks....

Just look at the seating configs....just statin' the truth...apart from slightly improved 'air'...(when maintained properly)...what has any full fare paying 3-star max holiday-maker got to look forward to with this aircraft? Can we get real?

5-stars on charters = max 3 stars in real life, flights, hotels, whatever....de facto.

Who really has had a truly comfortable med/long haul experience with Thomson, Monarch, Thomas Cook or whatever the name UK-based charter in the last decade? (let alone, scheduled carrier, btw! heheh).

Heading back to my truthful nuke shelter....lol....:ok:

crewmeal

1st Jun 2013, 05:44

A welcome sight to UK aviation. Well done Thomson for getting everything organised and running despite all the delays there were. It's a shame the word 'Britannia' wasn't on the sides instead of Thomson! It would have been a truly great day for the industry.

VC10man

1st Jun 2013, 06:42

It's a shame there is no RR on the engines.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/puppy_dog_eyes.gif

Ringwayman

1st Jun 2013, 07:16

2nd 787 has duly arrived at MAN at around 07.15. Wait ages for a UK registered 787 then 2 come (almost) at once.

chinapattern

1st Jun 2013, 08:53

It's a shame the word 'Britannia' wasn't on the sides instead of Thomson! It would have been a truly great day for the industry.

Indeed, 'Britannia' was my suggestion for the #nameourplane competition they ran.

TCX69

1st Jun 2013, 10:07

It's a shame the word 'Britannia' wasn't on the sides instead of Thomson!

Not the 'Britannia' as we knew it, but...

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh498/TCX69K/BY_zps778afca7.png (http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/TCX69K/media/BY_zps778afca7.png.html)

VickersVicount

1st Jun 2013, 10:38

No should have been classic pinstripe Britannia

cleanair

1st Jun 2013, 11:56

Just by fluke I looked on fr24 and spotted it heading over our garden on it's flight from Manchester. Must say it was nice and quiet at 373 kts and 23k ft. Well done to all concerned.

crewmeal

1st Jun 2013, 13:01

Not the 'Britannia' as we knew it, but...

Nice image.May be Thomson can paint a 787 in retro Britannia colours. Now that would be something!

nsherrin15

1st Jun 2013, 14:33

I thought Thomson were meant to have "cover aircafts", clearly not as they are using a Tunisian A321 to ferry to ALC to return pax to CWL then take the CWL pax to ALC. I thought that was the point of the two leased 763's?

Letsflycwl

1st Jun 2013, 14:51

What Tunisian airline they using ? TU ?

cornishsimon

1st Jun 2013, 15:11

Well I was fortunate enough to end up very close to NQY today and iv just spent some time watching the circuits.

The 787 is truly a lovely looking aircraft.

So glad Thomson have chosen to train at NQY, and an interesting day at NQY with a mix of eurowings, flybe, Thomson and skybus.

cs

planenut321

1st Jun 2013, 15:22

TOM 6645P, TS-IQA is positioning into ALC now.

nsherrin15

1st Jun 2013, 15:47

The airline is Nouvelair Tunisie, reg is : TS-IQA

oldbalboy

1st Jun 2013, 16:33

There is a problem today with 'crew' shortage aka not enough pilots for todays programme, a number of flts being subbed out!

ericlday

1st Jun 2013, 16:47

Gone joy riding on 787 !!!!

nsherrin15

1st Jun 2013, 16:55

I've now seen three other airlines operating on behalf of TOM: Nouvelair; ALC-CWL-ALC, HiFly A330; LGW-IBZ-LGW, Euro Atlantic Airways; TFS-MAN. I agree the pilots should stop joy riding the 787;)

WATABENCH

1st Jun 2013, 19:05

TOM have had probs with the 767's in BRS this week, believe went tech twice, once before SFB then on return to BRS to operate CUN, brought another 767 to operate CUN, think the inbound CUN was delayed over 24 hrs, so that may of had something to do with a spare 767 not being about to send to CWL, not sure it would of had a massive impact on crew though.
Can anyone let me know when 787 in due in CWL please, might take a trip over the bridge.

TCX69

1st Jun 2013, 20:43

I've now seen three other airlines operating on behalf of TOM: Nouvelair; ALC-CWL-ALC, HiFly A330; LGW-IBZ-LGW, Euro Atlantic Airways; TFS-MAN

Not to mention TUIfly Nordic B767 MAN-ALC-MAN and Jetairfly B767 MAN-IBZ-MAN, MAN-RHO-MAN.

OK aircraft leased for the summer but still, not operated by Thomson Airways.

MikeyMoo

1st Jun 2013, 21:27

Not to mention TUIfly Nordic B767 MAN-ALC-MAN and Jetairfly B767 MAN-IBZ-MAN, MAN-RHO-MAN.

Both aircraft are operated by Thomson Airways, the Tui Nordic aircraft is both Thomson Airways Flight deck & cabin crew, the Jetairfly, in a similar way as the Sunwings aircraft, is Jetairfly flight deck but Thomson Airways cabin crew and will part of the UK operation for summer '13 and are planned to operate flights all the way to the end of September for the Jetairfly aircraft & October for the Tui Nordic aircraft

MikeyMoo

1st Jun 2013, 21:31

The 787 is planned to be in CWL on the following date (subject to change of course!)

4th June, arrives 0900z departs 0945z & arrives 1600z departs 1645z
5th June, as above

airsmiles

2nd Jun 2013, 10:42

It's a shame the word 'Britannia' wasn't on the sides instead of Thomson!

The 787 is truly a lovely looking aircraft.

While I recognise Thomson is a pretty airline compared to others, boy do I wish they'd sort out their colour schemes. I didn't like the last one and the new one looks a bit chaotic and cheap to me.

As for the B787, that blunt nose and chubby looks isn't a patch on the B757. After all these years I've never managed to get to like it.

blue up

2nd Jun 2013, 12:20

There is a problem today with 'crew' shortage aka not enough pilots for todays programme, a number of flts being subbed out!

Oops. Sorry about that. :O

Not my fault, this time.

NCIS

2nd Jun 2013, 16:50

Hi All - Privilege Style Air Lines 757 EC-ISY operated Thomson's TOM1733/TOM1732 Newcastle to Malaga this afternoon. Pic: Boeing 757: 26241 EC-ISY 757-256 Privilege Style Air Lines Newcastle Airport | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/8926085788) Cheers.

learjet50

2nd Jun 2013, 22:19

A strange question but Im curious

Why are all the new TUI UK aircraft delivered to Manchester and not Luton as they used to be ??

boeing_eng

2nd Jun 2013, 22:28

Parking at LTN is now very expensive and Hangar 61 at LTN is maxed out most of the time with routine fleet maintenance. Its far cheaper to park planes when required at MAN and the company has good engineering cover there.

learjet50

2nd Jun 2013, 22:38

Thanks for that I thought it was something like that

Nice to see that Hanger is at full speed

iRegards

BOH

2nd Jun 2013, 23:54

I see the Enfidha to Birmingham (BY317) is being operated by a Titan 763 - is there still problems with the Thomson 767 fleet?

oceanhawk

3rd Jun 2013, 08:19

Boh

Shortage of pilots.

baps

3rd Jun 2013, 08:55

The BY317 must be delayed by about 4 years. I think that's the last time Thomson used BY flight numbers! LOL!

zjc123

3rd Jun 2013, 16:06

Rumour has it TUIB is tech after delivery, can anyone confirm otherwise?

nsherrin15

3rd Jun 2013, 18:48

Also G-TUIB has had a sticker which says 'Alfie' applied to it under the 'Thomson' text on the fuselage

bhx bod

3rd Jun 2013, 19:03

BY is still used to a degree on TOM(TUI UK)flights.
If you look on flightradar24 A lot of flights have a TOM fltno and a BY fltno.:)

steve platt

3rd Jun 2013, 19:07

GTUIB isnt tech...... its next planned flight after delivery is at 0900 tomorrow (Tues) morning. And the word 'Alfie' appears on it due to that being its brand new applied name!!

nsherrin15

3rd Jun 2013, 19:35

Bit of a random name to be honest, and the sticker looks rather strange placed where it is, anyone else agree? G-TUIB Thomson Boeing 787 Dreamliner | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33735291@N07/8938277383/in/photolist-eBR1sK-eBAH4x-eAjwNH-ezW3wh-ezAXmr-ezD2qL-ezvrVT-ezsqNH-ezsdUn-ezoUg6-ezrYBy-eznDHv-ezmQZF-ezpoLG-ezinw2-ezmzaS-ezjH8A-ezguSg-ezitaC-ezffoR-ezffyi-ezirTu-ezit4w-ezfevn-ezisiJ-ezfeL8-ezfeXV-ezffaB-ezffm2-ezirPf-ezis21-ezit87-ezisWU-ezisn7-ezffeP-ezff6B-ezffsn-ezisJj-ezfeG2-ezis5C-ezff2B-e6nB8V-dTwJ2B-dSPgkV)

zjc123

3rd Jun 2013, 20:16

Thanks for confirming I was hoping it wasn't tech!

Yes I saw his new name so we have

G-TUIA as Living The Dream
G-TUIB as Alfie

Wonder where Alfie came from does anyone know?

Glad to hear hes! flying tomorrow will look out!

787Heaven

3rd Jun 2013, 20:56

Baby Alfie was born on a First Choice flight in 2007. :):)

zjc123

3rd Jun 2013, 21:09

Oh yes you've just jogged my memory!

ericlday

3rd Jun 2013, 21:09

Whats it all about 'Alfie' ?????

goldeneye

3rd Jun 2013, 23:43

I really do like the new livery, and it looks fantastic on the 787, but TOM you need to change the font of the airline name, it just looks wrong.

Wycombe

4th Jun 2013, 10:53

Looks like the Dreamliners are out and about today, TUIB routed MAN to CWL earlier, and TUIA is now at NQY having already been to MSE this morning.

ScotsSLF

4th Jun 2013, 11:22

TUIB at PIK after CWL and then on to SNN

AirGuru

4th Jun 2013, 12:04

Then onto DSA, and back to CWL again before going back to MAN.

boeing_eng

4th Jun 2013, 18:40

It was announced today that TUI Dreamliners will be maintained "in house" at H61 at LTN from November next year. This was not the original plan and a fair amount of internal modification will be required to H61 so the 787 can fit.

rog747

4th Jun 2013, 19:09

saw on a very sunny Saturday evening a BY 787 doing a few approaches and climb outs at low level at NQY around 1900...

guess doing touch and go's?

thought it was a 737 at first but it looked odd LOL
(Thomson's do a PMI flight now and again)

looked again and thought it's a bit big for a 738 and tail was all wrong,
then 767 crossed my mind...no...

then after the second climb out it dawned on me

787 lol!

ericlday

4th Jun 2013, 19:55

Should have gone to Specsavers !!!!!

VickersVicount

4th Jun 2013, 20:06

Wouldnt be right for TOM not to maintain their own Boeings, although I though MON were the only Boeing Gold Partners for 787

Mr @ Spotty M

4th Jun 2013, 20:37

TOM pulled out of their contract for Goldcare with Boeing, around Feb last year, Boeing were not happy one little bit.
Monarch (MAEL) were not too pleased either, as they spent a good deal of time as part of the project.
You do not have to be signed up for Goldcare, to maintain the B787, you will however have to pay for all the tooling you will need.
The contract that MAEL have with LOT is not a Goldcare contract.
It is going to be very interesting to see how TOM, are going to cover hangar work in the mean time.
I can assure you that it will not be long before the new B787s will be AOG and in time will also require a hangar.
We have just used our MAN hangar for one of the LOT B787s and it was not for a check.

Captinbirdseye

5th Jun 2013, 08:58

I have added a new thread for Dreamliner posts in spotters corner. I do find it interesting however might be better in a seperate thread and all in one location.

http://www.pprune.org/spectators-balcony-spotters-corner/516375-thomson-787-sightings-movements.html

boeing_eng

5th Jun 2013, 11:30

There's plenty of hangars out there Mr Spotty! ;):}:}

blue up

5th Jun 2013, 14:20

Big empty ones at St Athan. Just watched the 787 slide overhead there this morning.
4th 787 visit to Cardiff scheduled for this afternoon.

Mr @ Spotty M

5th Jun 2013, 20:15

You are correct, but my guess would be that only two airports in the UK have hangars that are approved for hangar maintenance for the B787.
MAN using MAEL and LHR using BA. ;)

LAX_LHR

5th Jun 2013, 20:34

You are correct, but my guess would be that only two airports in the UK have hangars that are approved for hangar maintenance for the B787.
MAN using MAEL and LHR using BA

Also MAEL at BHX when it opens.

sp221156

5th Jun 2013, 20:37

And I thought it was named for the singer Alfie Boe (ing)....:)

Steve

BlueA330

6th Jun 2013, 05:29

Is it going straight into longhaul or will it be deen around EUROPE ?

AirGuru

6th Jun 2013, 06:28

Anyone know the reason as to why TOM645 (G-OOBK) SFB-BRS diverted into CWL this morning ?

Stampe

6th Jun 2013, 08:15

Most probably a combination of weather and runway 09.Recent history will make an experienced commander of a 767 extremely wary of runway 09 at Bristol.As the AAIB stated in the accident report to OOBK at Bristol on 3rd october 2010 the runway does not meet the standards required in CAP168 Licensing of Aerodromes.The report makes interesting reading for those who operate large jets into Bristol.Today Passengers safe aircraft undamaged job well done.VBR Stampe

AirGuru

6th Jun 2013, 08:40

Thats what i was thinking Stampe, although the visibility this morning was surely pretty good, despite a small amount of cloud cover. The landing that caused this same aircraft damage back in 2010 was in <1400m visibility, and in wet conditions.

Stampe

6th Jun 2013, 08:54

I think if you check ogimet the actual wx at Brs at the scheduled arrival time was extremely poor below cat 1 minima which would have precluded an approach anyway 09 and the stiff easterly precluded an autoland on 27.remember Bristol airport topography creates its own bad wx when everywhere else is workable.A very poor location for a major airport.

AirGuru

6th Jun 2013, 10:21

Anyone know what row 32 is like on the TOM B738's ? Due to fly soon in this row so wondering if its cramped as per most row 32 B738's.

oldbalboy

6th Jun 2013, 17:28

no more cramped than any other rows in rear half of cabin but right in front of toilets so you will get a lot of people waiting for toilets!

AirGuru

6th Jun 2013, 19:55

Thanks for that, dont mind a queue.

boeing_eng

6th Jun 2013, 20:03

You are correct, but my guess would be that only two airports in the UK have hangars that are approved for hangar maintenance for the B787.
MAN using MAEL and LHR using BA.

A hangar doesn't need to be "approved" for AOG work!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

EK77WNCL

6th Jun 2013, 22:55

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could provide any information about Thomson's flights to Skiathos for August this year. Looking to book and I was wondering if they will all be operated by 757's and non stop on the return leg. Especially interested in both of Manchester's 2 weekly flights although if someone could compile a complete timetable from each UK airport I would be more than grateful.

Thank you very much and I hope you can give me something.
Martin

ematom1

6th Jun 2013, 23:30

I think all departures from skiathos to the UK have to have a fuel stop on the return leg as the runway at Skiathos is too short for a aircraft full with fuel and passengers

IrishFlyer2013

7th Jun 2013, 04:46

Thomson Airways flights to and from Skiathos operate direct from the U.K. The B752 can operate directly from JSI it does not require a fuel stop.

TCX are the same. There 757's operate direct from LGW, MAN & NCL. The flights from EMA & BRS however sometimes require a fuel stop in Kavala. The A320/A321 a/c can't make it back directly to the U.K.

The TOM & TCX 757's can carry enough fuel to get back to the U.K.

All Thomson's flights from the U.K to JSI are operated by B752's.

oceanhawk

7th Jun 2013, 13:35

Irish flyer is correct . The 752 makes the UK direct from JSI. On a hot day with little or no wind, you do have to sharpen the pencil a little when uplifting fuel.

VickersVicount

7th Jun 2013, 16:12

I think Samos and Santorini were other "iffy" ones...

EK77WNCL

9th Jun 2013, 21:37

Thanks a lot guys, it will be a sad day all round when the 757 goes :( do you know if the above mentioned TOM and TCX 757 routes will remain next year or will they be bumped down to A32x/738's I really hope not.

Martin

zjc123

10th Jun 2013, 15:07

Anybody know when G-TUID is due to arrive thought it would be before the British Airways ones!

oldbalboy

11th Jun 2013, 08:46

TUID expected in August

LBIA

11th Jun 2013, 11:08

The leased Canadian Sunwing Airlines Boeing 737-800WL, C-FYUH has gone tech again this time at LBA. As is the normal this mornings TOM3250 pax heading out to PMI are now been sent over to fly out of MAN.

insuindi

11th Jun 2013, 13:37

G-TUIB seems to be doing daily MAN-HAJ-MAN rotations currently, is this linked to the TUI HQ being in HAJ or are there any other reasons for doing HAJ?

cym

11th Jun 2013, 13:43

HAJ pulls the strings airline wise. No 738 or 787 is delivered with a *04 suffix which used to be Britannia

AirGuru

11th Jun 2013, 16:04

What is the general interior condition of the older G-FDZ's that TOM operate. Just querying as im due to fly on one !

Cazza_fly

11th Jun 2013, 17:03

What is the general interior condition of the older G-FDZ's that TOM operate. Just querying as im due to fly on one !

They're generally in great condition especially with the stick they take from the passngers everyday over the summer. The differences to the newer FDZ*/TAW* are obviously they have the original Boeing 737/757 Signature Interior compared to the Boeing Sky Interior. They are also fitted with the slimline Recaro seats that have the high seat-back magazine pocket (which I personally prefer) compared to the slimline BE Aerospace Pinnacle seat fitted on the later aircraft.

AirGuru

11th Jun 2013, 19:19

Thanks for that ! Much appreciated !

mikkie4

11th Jun 2013, 20:50

does tomson flight go from nth /sth terminal to luxor(gatwick)

valefan16

11th Jun 2013, 22:13

Flew on the FDZ reg aircraft on EMA to CFU and back over he past week and both were in immaculate condition inside (and in the Dreamliner livery) very impressed!

IrishFlyer2013

12th Jun 2013, 04:27

does tomson flight go from nth /sth terminal to luxor(gatwick)

All Thomson flights, including flights to Luxor, depart from Gatwick's North Terminal. :ok:

BlueTui

12th Jun 2013, 05:10

Not all g-fdz* are the older livery inside. G-fdzt onwards all have the sky interior.

LBIA

12th Jun 2013, 15:44

The leased Canadian Sunwing Airlines Boeing 737-800WL, C-FYUH has gone tech again this time at LBA. .

Latest news regarding the leased Sunwing Boeing 737-800WL, C-FYUH that is stranded at LBA and parked in the pan is that it requires an engine change. So I guess the Thomson Airways Boeing 737-800, G-TAWR will remain based either until the work is completed or Sunwing send replacement aircraft from Canada.

Understand MAEL engineers will be doing the work by hiring the needed equipment and the Hangar off Jet2.

Iver

13th Jun 2013, 02:43

Check out this awesome picture of 2 separate Thomson 787s training at Prestwick:

Photo Thomson Airways Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner G-TUIA (http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1225888)

:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::cool:

clipstone1

13th Jun 2013, 08:57

fantastic photo.....TUIC is due to be accepted today too....

Iver

13th Jun 2013, 20:23

Here's another good picture of the Thomson 787 at Doncaster. Certainly doesn't look much bigger than a 767-200!

G-TUIB - Thomson Airways Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner at Doncaster - Sheffield | Photo ID 294725 | Airplane-Pictures.net (http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/294725/g-tuib-thomson-airways-boeing-787-8-dreamliner/)

IrishFlyer2013

13th Jun 2013, 20:47

TUIC will position from Everett to Manchester as TOM9577. It will arrive at MAN at approx 10:40am tomorrow.

swdj

13th Jun 2013, 22:08

Great pics. Flying on one of these on 11th Aug to Cancun. Other half not so happy having seen Terror In The Skies coverage of the battery problems. When will the allocation to long haul flights be as intrigued which one we will be on.

Severn

13th Jun 2013, 23:49

Iver Certainly doesn't look much bigger than a 767-200!

767-200
Length: 159 ft 2 in
Cabin width: 15 ft 6 in

767-300
Length: 180 ft 3 in
Cabin width: 15 ft 6 in
Pax: 258 (ex-First Choice Aircraft - 2-3-2 in Premium (62 seats) and 2-3-2 in Economy (196 seats))

787-8
Length: 186 ft
Cabin width: 18 ft
Pax: 291 (2-3-2 in Premium (47 seats) and 3-3-3 Economy (244 seats) - although only 5 ft 9 in longer than the 767-300 the large increase in seats is due to the extra 2 ft 6 in width of the 787 meaning an extra two economy seats every row)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Boeing_787_size_comparison.svg/800px-Boeing_787_size_comparison.svg.png

GaryB1

23rd Jun 2013, 16:20

anybody still using the thread been monitoring for a few days and no action

nsherrin15

23rd Jun 2013, 19:43

G-CPEV has made two emergency landings in the past 24 hours at CWL. The most recent being a flapless landing with full emergency services. G-OOBG has now operated in from MAN to operate tonight's PMI. EV really needs a good check over!

boeing_eng

23rd Jun 2013, 21:13

I blame the colour of the seats ;o))

blue up

24th Jun 2013, 09:04

Anyone know who the Flightdeck were? Either a PM or maybe just their initials if they are local crew?

chrisy08

24th Jun 2013, 14:21

Does anyone know what 767 is flying out from Gatwick to Aruba... Is it newly painted livery or old first choice aircraft? Registration would be good if you know it and ill search it on jetphotos

IrishFlyer2013

24th Jun 2013, 14:32

OOBK, OOBL & PJLO have all flown from Gatwick to Aruba recently. They are in the First Choice Livery.

Tigger4Me

24th Jun 2013, 14:38

Ours on 31 May returning 14 June were First Choice. DBLK on the outbound and OOBK for the return.

LadyL2013

24th Jun 2013, 17:28

What is the new seating config. like for the medium haul flights on the 757-200? I hear they have added a tiny bit more legroom for Cape Verde/Lapland flights or so Thomson tell me?

JonnyH

24th Jun 2013, 19:57

I see the 787 operated to Dalaman today - I thought it was only doing long haul?

IrishFlyer2013

24th Jun 2013, 20:12

The new seating config for some of the Thomson 757's is 221. 12 seats have been removed to allow extra leg room. It is 3-3 configuration.

The Thomson 787s will operate up to 47 short/mid haul routes between 21 June and 08 July for crew training.

The Long haul routes start on 08 July.

oldbalboy

25th Jun 2013, 07:17

Jonny the 787's are doing s/h rotations for a couple of weeks to build up pilot sectors, from 08/07 2 are doing l/h the 3rd & 4th when it arrives in 08 are doing s/h for remainder of summer again to build up pilot sectors, from 01/11 all 4 are planned on l/h rotations.

Iver

26th Jun 2013, 00:35

I am sure the 787 pilots are enjoying the shorter segments before the more routine 7-9 hour flights.

Does anyone know what is the most junior FO's hire date on the 787 so far? Hired at Thomson in 2002 or 2003?

Cheers

figgi_gsm

26th Jun 2013, 01:53

Sunwings 738 C-FYLC operated into EDI tonight instead of the usual based C-FTLK. Flightradar24 shows FTLK as still being in Palma. Is FYLC the DUB based A/C?

LBIA

26th Jun 2013, 05:28

C-FTLK is now Leeds based as it was also swapped with C-FYUH in Palma. So that became the Dublin based aircraft yesterday evening.

zjc123

26th Jun 2013, 08:04

G-TUIB is currently in Shannon having engine repairs after a bird strike at Cardiff.

LadyL2013

26th Jun 2013, 17:54

I am somewhat baffled as to why they offer free meals on their mid-hauls but no movies. You'd think it would be both or neither, but not just one if you know what I mean?

oldbalboy

27th Jun 2013, 08:16

airlines pay the viewing licence fee per aircraft not per route therefore would have to pay it for all 17 757 yet no more than 1 or 2 flt's a day to cape verde islands.

benji

27th Jun 2013, 08:40

LadyL you will only get a meal on Cape Verde flights not on any other flights. The reason meals were introduced on these flights were basically because the aircraft can not hold enough stock to offer the eatery range to the inbound passengers resulting in lots of unhappy people. The airport down in BVC and indeed SID has minimal to no facilities for either you as passengers or us as an airline to 'fill up' - so despite it looking confusing the decision was taken with customers in mind!

EK77WNCL

27th Jun 2013, 15:53

Hi all

Sorry to keep asking these sort of questions, but does anyone know what aircraft Thomson use on their Manchester and Gatwick to La Palma (SPC) flights in winter, specifically December (13th and 20th) if you have any information.

Thanks a lot
Martin

BlueTui

27th Jun 2013, 17:13

It's usually 737. Can't see it being a 757

VickersVicount

27th Jun 2013, 17:39

Thomas cook group certainly send 757's and 767's s so theres no restriction size wise. Whether theres demand is another matter and more in keeping with 737

LadyL2013

27th Jun 2013, 19:02

Thanks Oldbalboy and Benji, that makes sense. Still a 6 hour flight is pushing it a bit with no IFE, but I guess once BVC is expanded, bigger and therefore more IFE laden aircraft will be able to fly there. As I understand it the 757-200 is the biggest they can have there. I did ask Thomson but they said they didn't know!

We will be able to select our seats soon and I always like to sit just behind the wings so I can see the flaps in motion, so I think on the 757-200 that's about rows 24-29. What rows don't have windows as I want to avoid these. Again I asked Thomson and they said they didn't know!

EK77WNCL

27th Jun 2013, 20:47

Yeah, size shouldn't matter, as you say, Condor send A320's, 753's and 763's just about every day and Air Berlin used to send their A333's down there every week. I've seen pictures of both Thomson's 737's and 757's there but the pictures of the 757's were taken on the same Tuesday and the 737's on the same Friday but now it is only 1 weekly on Fridays from both (in the winter at least) so it would make sense if the schedule has been reduced to round 1 738 and 1 752 per week up to 1 752 per week, also with the short (7200ft) runway the 757 would make more sense.

Sorry if that's hard to follow haha, if anyone knows for sure I would be very grateful, either that or if it gets booked I'm assuming you can select seats and look at the seat map so I could report back to here on what it ends up being.

G-TYNE

27th Jun 2013, 21:05

Both MAN and LGW were 738 this winter on the Friday flights. I suspect this will be the same this winter given there are more 738s and less 752s.

EK77WNCL

27th Jun 2013, 22:51

Ah right, bit disappointing :( but thanks a lot for the info though :)

Martin

VC10man

28th Jun 2013, 09:56

LadyL, why don't you read a book on a long flight? I much prefer to read than watch an old episode of Terry and June.

LadyL2013

29th Jun 2013, 11:36

Oh don't get me wrong, I love reading, but I'm a quick reader so can quite easily get through a whole book and a few magazines on a 5-6 hour flight. Having IFE would mean I have to lug less books around in hand luggage and more more room in my suitcase.

Oh well, good for the muscles!:ok:

chrisy08

30th Jun 2013, 10:59

Ah all First Choice.... Not good. Short hauls bad enough on a first choice aircraft :rolleyes: :ok: happen to know what one is going to be flying out on12th July? Or is it to soon to say....

MUFC_fan

30th Jun 2013, 13:55

LadyL,

There's a problem if it takes 5-6 hours to get to SPC! You're looking more in the region of 3:30-4:15...

VC10man

30th Jun 2013, 17:08

LadyL, I've recently been converted to a kindle. I've got a paperwhite, it is brilliant, it holds thousands of books and is really easy to read.
Please don't say you like the feel of a book. that's what I used to say!

nclops

30th Jun 2013, 23:19

MUFCfan - I think LadyL will have bigger problems if she ends up in SPC! As far as I can see she said she was going to BVC!

aiuk

2nd Jul 2013, 15:12

Hi All,

Can someone possibly tell me what the TOM 788's will be doing over the week-end of 27/28 July? I know of a Cancun departure on the Sunday morning but would be grateful for more info. I am going on a photo shoot that weekend!!

Thanks.

Pilot non flying

2nd Jul 2013, 15:35

aiuk:
Only flights in that weekend from MAN are TUIA, doing CUN, same time both days, 8:50 departure.
TUIB is flying shorthaul out of LGW, and TUIC will be going to GLA and fly longhaul from there.

aiuk

2nd Jul 2013, 16:53

Pilot non flying - thats great!! Really appreciate the info :ok:

NEastMidlands

2nd Jul 2013, 19:12

its 9:50 departure to CUN from MAN

KLOS

9th Jul 2013, 10:59

Do they use B737?

Thanks

LadyL2013

9th Jul 2013, 19:24

I wonder if they'll name the rest of the dreamliners?

Maybe use the rest of the finalist names in the NameOurPlane competition?

oldbalboy

11th Jul 2013, 02:46

The plan is to name them all , the cabin Manager in the welcome PA gives the name of the aircraft they are travelling on!

Shed-on-a-Pole

12th Jul 2013, 11:47

Afew months ago, I reluctantly 'unsubscribed' from Thomson marketing e.mails because despite my Manchester postcode and Manchester preference in their database, all the offers I received were tailored to Doncaster / Sheffield departures. Every destination plugged from DSA was also available from MAN (but this wasn't mentioned). If Thomson wish to send me *relevant* offers then I am receptive as I actually do like their holiday product. But if they wish to waste my time ... well, forget it.

Having recently booked another Thomson holiday, marketing e.mails started hitting my inbox again. And again, all about Doncaster. As I went to hit 'unsubscribe', a box appeared begging me not to axe them and inviting me to insert my preferred airport choice instead. I decided to give them a chance - offers from MAN would actually be of interest to me - So I inserted MAN as my choice.

And guess what? Today comes ANOTHER marketing e.mail again with ALL short haul offers operating ex-DSA. And ALL to destinations also served down the road from my postcode ex-MAN (and their database does have my Manchester postcode on file).

I HAVE UNSUBSCRIBED.

But the questions must now be asked:
1) Does Thomson have the most inept marketing department in the industry?
2) Does Thomson have the most inept computer programming department in the industry?
3) Is the problem a combination of both? Or is just one department at fault?
4) After a year of this nonsense, is the company ever planning to sort out the problem? Is somebody getting paid for this rubbish?
5) Thomson famously has a huge marketing budget. Are the shareholders content to see it wasted with basic programming errors affecting huge portions of its target market going uncorrected for a year? And as for the website ... still one of the most user-unfriendly out there. For example, if you are interested in 'anything' falling wholly within a rigidly defined set of dates, the Thomson site forces you to insert each possible destination one by one for its own individual search. And when a result emerges, small print appears saying this holiday DOESN'T actually fall within your (rigid) dates (but we decided to waste your time with it anyway!).

And yes, Thomson are aware of the MAN/DSA problem because I myself highlighted it to them months ago.

Good airline, Good holidays, Atrocious backroom support. What a missed opportunity.

ETOPS

12th Jul 2013, 14:12

Thomson flight TOM126 (B787 G-TUIC) currently on it's way back to MAN having got as far as around 15W. Currently in the hold west of WAL - fuel dumping?

ArtfulDodger

12th Jul 2013, 17:51

Aircraft forced to return to Manchester.....

Story here..... Thomson Dreamliner suffers ?technical issue?: ITV News | The Airport Informer (http://wp.me/p2jrV4-Jp)

LadyL2013

12th Jul 2013, 18:50

I'm not sure the dreamliner can cope with many more technical issues before airlines start to re-consider their decisions.

Musket90

13th Jul 2013, 18:28

Shed - Agree with you.

Recently returned from long haul holiday and before departure had several e:mails asking if we wanted "extras". Also a couple of phone calls to check we didn't want "extras" and on one I asked if day before check-in was available and was told no because of the deparure time of the flight was after 1200. When checking in on the day, after queueing for 25mins as desks were for all Thomson flights, the check-in agent said that we could have used day before check-in. I was not amused.

Also when we landed back in UK the cabin crew were keen to inform us on the PA of the new Thomson long haul destinations being introduced. Perhaps not the best thing to do when our flight had just come from a destination being dropped by Thomson in April 2014.

Flight and holiday great but they need to improve in other areas.

SWBKCB

13th Jul 2013, 18:35

Shed - one other option to add to your list:

6) Thomson have loads of flights from DSA that need pushing but flights from MAN are doing OK and are selling themselves - so push the DSA flts to the captive audience on their mailing list.

How much to send an e-mail? How much will they make if they can shift DSA flights? It might irritate you, but you didn't book with somebody else so they've lost nothing.

Shed-on-a-Pole

13th Jul 2013, 19:28

Yes, but the e.mail-list audience is not captive, it is fluid. That is the truth of the matter. Send out too many *irrelevant* time-wasters and others will 'unsubscribe' from Thomson e.mails as I have done. Now special offers from my local airport ... that has the potential to attract a new booking rather than bemused puzzlement. That is the way to use your database successfully. And in Thomson's case, it is not an occasional Doncaster-focused e.mail they push out (I wouldn't object to that) ... it is ALL of them ... 100% hit rate.

If the marketers seriously believe that experienced Thomson regulars from the 'M' postcode area will be fooled into paying for surface transportation / parking etc to DSA for destinations such as TFS, ALC, PMI and AGP ... well, they must be off their rockers. Not the calibre of marketing talent which a company such as Thomson deserves. Disrespecting the intelligence of your loyal customer base never ends well.

On the point of "they've lost nothing" we will never really know ... I couldn't take up their late Manchester offers because they didn't send them to me! I would have welcomed the chance to consider them. I book travel with several operators; Thomson is just one option amongst many although I do like their holiday product.

LadyL2013

16th Jul 2013, 17:29

We are now able to select our seats for our holiday.

Can someone clarify for me which rows are windowless on the 757-200. It would be a nightmare not to have a window!

TCAS_Alert

18th Jul 2013, 08:58

Hi all

Does anyone know what equipment Thomson are using the on the EMA-SFB route in May 2014 (TOM374/375)? Is it the 787 or more likely to be a 763?

Cheers!

ematom1

18th Jul 2013, 10:52

Will be a 787 as they start using them from EMA on the route in a couple of weeks the 787 is replacing the 767s :)

Downwind_Left

18th Jul 2013, 11:31

@TCAS_Alert,
For the S2014 season EMA-SFB doesn't switch to a 787 until July 2014. Operates with a 767 from May to that point. BHX-SFB similar situation.

Only SFB ops in May 2014 appear to be from LGW/MAN/GLA and then not all flights.

TCAS_Alert

18th Jul 2013, 20:10

Thanks, we're going 15-29 May so looks like it'll be a 767 for us then (unless of course they change it nearer the time!)

Thanks for the replies!

gregan

22nd Jul 2013, 16:51

Hi LadyL2013
Rows 12 and 14 do not have windows
15F windows is right at the forward of the seat (near the back of 14f)

Gregan :hmm:

Grahamy

22nd Jul 2013, 20:30

Just a quick qustion for those in the know,
whan are Boeing 767's G-DBLA &. G-PJLO due to leave the fleet?

valefan16

22nd Jul 2013, 21:35

EMA hasn't shown the Sanford flight for Tuesday on the departures for the past week nor tomorrow? Odd!

MKY661

23rd Jul 2013, 01:17

Just a quick qustion for those in the know,
whan are Boeing 767's G-DBLA &. G-PJLO due to leave the fleet?

G-PJLO has been withdrawn from use and is currently at MAN :) G-DBLA still flying though not sure when it's going but pretty shortly I imagine. :)

Also for some Reason Thomson are still using the Jetairfly 767??? :)

MikeyMoo

23rd Jul 2013, 07:22

The jetairfly 76 will remain in service until the arrival and entry in to service of the 4th 78 which is expected to mid to late September when the 78 will replace the 76 on shorthaul.

The ema-sfb & ema-cun don't operate in July as the aircraft operates an extra sfb & cun from gla for the Scottish school holidays, the flights return to ema on then 30th July, a smilar thing happens in brs where the aircraft operates from edi instead.

Dbla will be staying in the fleet until the end of August as one of the ex fca 76's is now flying a line of shorthaul ex lgw until then