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maybe an extremely stupid question but we discussed the matter yesterday amongst friends:
have there ever been any reported attempts to fly aerobatic manoevers with an airliner? once read about a test flight with a lh 707 or 720 in the 60s when the pilots flew a roll (and ended up crashing when they did it a second time).
only rumors?
greetings
r.w.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=264662
towser
20th Feb 2007, 14:34
I know of an incident where someone attempted to roll a small commercial turbo prop on a training flight. Messed it up a bit and emptied the toilet on the roof of the cabin!
thanx for the link to the other thread ... great videos ...
and what about a loop?
hetfield
20th Feb 2007, 18:39
They did it many times.......
Two times it didn't work pretty well.
galaxy flyer
21st Feb 2007, 01:53
Oh no, another round of this one. :ugh:
Capn Bloggs
21st Feb 2007, 04:21
If you start fast and with the nose up about 30° then roll reasonably quickly, you won't even need less than 1g so the FAs should still be able to do the service. The nose will end up comfortably below the horizon requiring only a gentle pullup. :ok:
stevef
21st Feb 2007, 06:07
A Botswana DCA employee told me that the FDR (taken to France for examination after the crash) indicated the stolen ATR42 had been rolled, as well as other abnormal manouevres.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Phatswe
onehundred
21st Feb 2007, 14:00
Boeing test pilot Tex Johnson barrel rolled the 720 in the 60s
PaulW
21st Feb 2007, 15:09
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/PaulW0/th_707Roll.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/PaulW0/?action=view¤t=707Roll.flv)
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/PaulW0/texrole.jpg
Voila, the video of Tex rolling the Dash80 (707 prototype) and a pic of lake washington from an interesting angle ;-)
bflyer
23rd Feb 2007, 10:34
Hey Cappn Bloggs...a question
Can it be done in B72..hurry with the tech data :eek:
PaulW
23rd Feb 2007, 12:02
Civil transport aircraft are rated 2.5g -1g clean. So yes. Pull a Warn Elec or MAWEA cb to get rid of the annoying bank angle reminder and off you go. Even pull a couple of ELAC c.b.s in an airbus to get into alternate law losing the bank angle protection and you could pull off this manouvre. As a passenger you would never know you were upside down if pulled off perfectly. As said in the video it is a 1g manouvre. Have you seen the video of coffee being poured as a barrell roll is carried out and the coffee just pours into the cup as if nothing was happening? Its from an old series called Reach For The Skies, the pilot, happens to specialise in flying aerobatics in a twin asymetric of all things, demonstrates it. The danger is if you bugger up the manouvre...
Sorry just seen this is repeated from another thread, see the other thread for all further questions...