MEA (Middle East Airlines) cadet selection 2007

[meacadetpilot]

MEA is selecting new cadet pilots and direct entry pilots



http://www.mea.com.lb/MEA/English/Misc/Careers.htm

feel free to ask me anything because i can help u since i am an MEA cadet .

[louxoo]

Hello,
I'd like to know if you are one of the Beirutspotters group?I saw yesterday the program for 2007, I hardly want to join MEA but I think i don't have ALL the criteria yet. I'm studying it. Are you now in Jerez?
Hope to be yours very soon,
louxoo

[meacadetpilot]

yes i am at jerez now...i am not at beirut spotters group
what criteria don't you meet?
any help ask me

[louxoo]

Hello,
Jerez must be great! I saw the video on their website, is it as a beautiful place as it looks like?
For the critieria,
well you need to be 19 and I'm gonna be 19 this year but still 18 for the moment.. I speak English and French but my arabic is not very good yet.. I can understand most part of a conversation and I can "express" myself. I also know how to read but most of the time, I don't really understand what I'm reading.
That's a shame 'cause I'm one of the " young, motivated, hard working,
and creative Lebanese nationals" they want.
I'm also currently flying for my PPL near Paris on Robin (DR400).
Nevertheless,I think I'll try to apply.:rolleyes:

[meacadetpilot]

jerez is a nice place,,,,,
if u will r going to be 19 years within next august or september, then they will accept u, so my advice is apply !
u will be fine with arabic, believe me

[cumulus pajaritus]

All this forum smell fishy for me... in my opinion it is another way of doing FAKE mouth to mouth advertisement!!.

This airline and school earn big money with your desperates attempts of being a pilot... they are now painting it as a "wow look this and that" you fall for it, you pay them... they win.


Keep Pprune up to good standard, do not ruin it!


Happy Flights (for all the rest),

CU PA.

[louxoo]

Hi,
I'll be 19 on December the 2nd. For my arabic, when I say I don't understand what I"m reading it's not a joke...I've never taken Arabic lessons, I learnt by talking lebanese sometimes at home or of course in Leb. However, I think I'll apply..maybe they'll see a young, motivated, hard working, and creative Lebanese nationals in me.
I can also learn very quickly arabic so, who knows?héhé..

cumulus pajaritus, I don't understand your post, of course we pay them for being a pilot but a lot of people would like to have such a system in their country. They hire you, then you can start training.

NB: "if u will r going to be 19 years within next august or september, then they will accept u" => are you sure or you think so? Is it because the training starts in september?

Thanks a lot,
alex.

[meacadetpilot]

i am sure....they want u to be 19 by the start of ur training

[louxoo]

Oo, that's a shame, my b day is in december. Well, however i should try:bored:..don t you think so?
Hope to me in Jerez one day or the other..

[mr_jack_88]

Hey everyone! im rly happy to have a cadet pilot advisor for us! Im a lebanese male named hagop (armenian) and im applyin for MEA, and i got some questions!
-im finishin my uni year in summer 2007; if i got accepted and did my med checks, and success, and after these i double my uni year, did MEA will hire me anymore?
-my english isnt that fluent but not zero, i have a well one i guess; do MEA wants fluent only or they'll get some wells too??

thanks for aswering me MEAcadetpilot!
best regards and success...
Hagop Nigolian:ok:

[meacadetpilot]

i did not get ur first question about doubling ur university year ?
ur english must be good because all the interviews during the selection process are in english
good luck

[Sagey]

Cumulus, this is the second post from you where I have just had to go sheeesh and shake my head from side to side.
Your first post was some ill-conceived attempt to discourage wannabes from going to University.
The second is accusing a cadet pilot that he is posting fishy advertising on Pprune.
What that cadet posted was a direct link to an Airlines career page, where they are advertising for cadet pilots.
For the majority that read Pprune, they will not be able to apply as they are not Lebanese nationals. However, you have once again demonstrated a lack of understanding of the current state of play when it comes to the modern "sponsorship" scheme. Schemes now exist where the financial burdon rests on the cadets and not the airline, however, if you successfully complete the course then there is high probability that you will be going straight into a jet job.
Flight Training Europe are a respected flying school and MEA are not the only airline that utilise their services for such schemes.
Sagey

[louxoo]

Hi Meacadetpilot,
I'd like to know something, i'm sure you have the answer.:)
What Does this sentence mean:
"minor correction up to one degree with 100% correction"
=> I have -1.50 /-1.75 dioptry. In the European system, we can have till -3.00/-3.00 dioptry.
So, can you tell me more about that? I don't understand if the one degree is with or without glasses, and if its dioptry or not. If you don't know, I'll directly ask MEA.
Thanks a lo

[meacadetpilot]

it means that u must need only 1 degree of correction (without glasses) ur prescription is a bit high but not that much, so my advice is apply, APPLY, APPLY....!!!!
they will most probably accept it
they dont care about the europeen system for eyesight , they have their own criteria, however ur not that far from their criteria,,,so once again i say apply
i am not doing any add here for MEA, they r not paying me to do this,,,,they can also post here for free !!!
good luck

[mr_jack_88]

Hey MEAcadetpilot,
first of all thanks for replying! second my question was:
they said that if someone didnt accomplish 1 year of university can apply even if he's accomplishing in the summer 2007 right?
i said if i do the exams successfully and then the medical check also successfully, before the end of the 1 year of uni; and after all i dont get my 1st year uni(ya3ni ma nje7et el sene) what will be the result?
they will hire me or fire me ?
thanks again!
Hagop Nigolian

[louxoo]

Thanks meacadetpilot,
i also discovered i have a little astigmatism (less than 0.5) which is not allowed. I think i'll contact them to ask them the question because that will be a shame to involve myself in such a selection if finally i'm medically not able for my view. I'll contact them and let you know what is the conclusion ;)
thanks bye

[meacadetpilot]

mr jack : no u must complete ur first year at university,,,,work hard to finish it
luxoo : don't contact them , they will tell u straight forward : no , it is not allowed.....my advice is not ask them ....because if u ever make it to the final medical, and u r a little bit over the limit, they will take u because u will see that at the end (just before the medical) u will be around 20 people which is not enought for them....it has happened in the previous selections,,so trust me and dont ask them

[mr_jack_88]

ok u mean that after i do successfully everything in the selection process and then i dont get the year, they wont take me right?
anyway thanks a lot and gd luck for ur flight training :)!

[louxoo]

Hi meacadetpilot,
I understand what you say and I thought the same thing.
However, the matter is that I'm living in France, I'm working during the exams period and I'm not able to go to Beirut many times in a month if I know my candidature is preliminary refused. Do you understand?
I think they will tell me by now if such a slight dioptry and astigmatism is totally refused or maybe they'll say: "you can apply , we can make medical derogations"..like they do everywhere in medical exams for pilots! And with such requirments (-1 dioptry!) they may admit that they accept a slight excess.
Alex:)

[meacadetpilot]

jack: ur right, U MUST COMPLETE UR FIRST YEAR by the end of summer 2007 if get accepted
luxuoo : i am almost sure that if u call them , they will tell u that they dont accept more than 1 dioptre and they will refuse ur application,,,
so i am telling u to apply, and they might accept it at the end of the selection,,,if u want this so badly u will have to sacrifice a lot before getting it
so don't ask them , they will refuse it

it is ur choice, and this is my advice

[louxoo]

Hi meacadetpilot,
Than you for your advice. I can also ask them and apply however the answer. I'll do my best to achieve my goal, don't care for that:ok:
I'm currently preparing my military exemption in case of I can pass the exams in march.
Many thanks, good night,
alex.

[louxoo]

Dear Meacadetpilot,
I've another question for you, please.
I can see on MEA website that the first academic exam is on march the 6th. How long does it take to have an answer if we can continue or not the selection?
And how many time after this first academic exam did you pass the other one writen exam and the interview? Just an approximation will help me a lot. Thanks a lot.
Hope to see you in jerez, who knows?:)
alex.

[meacadetpilot]

after the first exam , u will have an answer after 2 weeks,(phone call and email) which will tell u that ur first medical will be in 3-4 days,,then after this medical, the next exam will be within10 days, then the interview in a couple of days ( 3-4) , then the medical in a week.....which means that it will last from march 6 until end of april ( 20-25) ,,,,i am not sure it will be like this this year, but it was like this during my selection

[louxoo]

Many thanks, i'll tell you soon what i have finally done,
nice flights!

[meacadetpilot]

i think u should give them a phone call, emails are not enough,,,,i am sure that they will be more than interested in u,, trust me , they are searching for pilots deseperalty everywhere,,,they need them so much
plus ur qualifications are exelent..
if u understand spoken arabic (lebanese) it is ok...practice it by watching some lebanese tv channels
reading and writing arabic is not important at alll.....they wont even check it...they dont care

bye

[meacadetpilot]

so how was the exams ?

[mr_jack_88]

Hey bro!!
I finally got accepted !! i passed everything and i have the contract now!
i have a lot of paper work noe and there's a thing that's killing me right now and that's the uni:S i dunno what to do !!
any advices?
take care and thank you

[mehio]

Hello , i just wanted to ask you about the physics and math exams . Ive been told that there are 2 physics exams and 2 math exams . 2 at the beginning in AUB and 2 at middle east airlines HQ.
How do i know whats the material and chapters required and what level is the math and physics ?
Can you please clarify this topic .
Thanks alot!

[mehio]

hi guys , anyone knows what material and chapters are needed for the physics and math exams?
Thanks alot!

[Hagop]

mehio,

All relevant information could be found on the website.

The Physics and Maths exams at the initial examinations (phase 1) are based on the Lebanese Baccalaureate scientific program (GS/LS).

During phase 4, you will be taking 2 other Maths and Physics examinations that are prepared by the FTO that you will be conducting your training at.

[Turkelie]

Hello Everyone,

I already applied for MEA cadet pilot selection 2015 - 2016

I currently live in Montreal - Canada and hold a master degree in Aerospace Engineering and I am currently working as a mechanical engineer.

The problem that I am worried about is my Eye vision.

Yesterday i went to see an optometrist .

He told me that I do not have daltonism and my near vision is very good.

However I do have on my left eye -1.5 and on my right eye -0.75 dioptry. Do you guys think that this will be ignored regarding my left eye ? I am really worried about it . in the requirements it says up to 1 degree

Looking forward to hear from you guys.

Thanks

Regards,

Elie

[Hagop]

Turkelie,

I think the best way to know the answer is to send them an email or give them a call which is faster.

They might say no directly, so I advise you to contact MEA's doctor and ask him personally about your case.

Good Luck.

[Turkelie]

Hi Hagop,

Yeah ure right and I also figured out that I have a small degree of astigmatism and wont get higher. It is stable !! It is reasonable that nowadays few people dont have astigmatism!! I also knew that some pilots possess 0.5 astigmatism and got accepted !! They don't have to be strict i guess .

[Turkelie]

Hi Hagop,

Yesterday I went to see the optometrist to do an eye check!

For near vision: it's perfect
Distant Vison : -0.5 / -0.75 (less than -1.00 )
No daltonism
However I do have astigmatism : -1.00 / -1.75

For MEA astigmatism is not acceptable

As for EASA class 1 medical exam : the maximum you can have for astigmatism is -2.00

Do you think they will reject my application for the program if I reach step Number 6 ?

I mean they can assess it. Im below the EASA requirements !!

Do u know anybody who got accepted having this type of problem ?

Looking forward to hearing from you

Regards,

Thanks

Elie

[Hagop]

Turkelie,

MEA does not depend on any CAA for the class 1 medical which explains the harsh requirements at their pilot selections unfortunately.

EASA accepts astigmatism up to -2.00, FAA does not even have a limitation for astigmatism or any type of correction; you must just have 20/20 with or without correction.

MEA have their own rules and regulations. As for previous applicants, I currently know 2 first officers at MEA who wear glasses but I have no idea about their prescriptions.

Did you try to contact the pilot recruitment department or MEA's registered physician asking about your situation?

If you are able to come back to Lebanon for the duration of the selection, without losing your job/being away from family duties... I advise you to give it a shot and try. You can never know the answer if you don't go for it.

Good Luck and let us know what happens!

[Turkelie]

Thanks a lot for your reply Hagop,

Yes I talked to the supervisor and I was very friendly with him and he understood my situation... In contrary he really supported me to go to Lebanon to do the exam. So they are aware of the plans !

I really really have a good profile and i assume nowadays MEA is looking for talented candidates who have previous experience in the aerospace environment! I mean maybe I have more advantage than other candidates. Anyway, we will see. I guess its not a big deal and I won't think of this problem right now !! Will let you know once I jump to the next process !

Thanks for your support

Elie

[Hagop]

You're most welcome.

May I know who was the supervisor that you talked to? PM me if you prefer.

I don't think that having a previous experience in the aerospace industry will give you any advantage over other applicants as most of the first officers that I know at MEA were specializing in fields other than aviation before they joined as cadet pilots.

However, MEA is currently raising its pilots' educational standards indeed. They used to have a minimum requirement of "one year of university (sophomore)" to apply, but on this selection as you can see their "new" minimum requirement is at least a Bachelor's degree to apply to the mentored scheme, which is the reason that turned down my application as I still have 2 years to complete my engineering degree. PS: Engineering in Lebanon is 5 years.

Anyways, all the best of luck and keep us updated.

[Turkelie]

Hi Hagop,

I mean the supervisor that I work with at the company based in montreal-Verdun. Not the officer at MEA, cause I am 100% sure that he is gonna tell me that i wont fit for the job ==> Astigmatism is not acceptable. Although the optometrist told me that these days very very few people doesnt have a % of astigmatism.

Secondly, I meant by more knowledgeable in the field of aerodynamics and propulsion ! Anyway maybe ure right it wont help. but im studying again all the material that we studied in Grade 12 ( SG / SV ).

The exam is on the 27th of October.

Good luck on your engineering degree !! will let you know on the updates !!

Thanks !

[Cedarjet80]

Hi,
Do you guys know if MEA will be recruiting FO for their new Legacy 500?

[Hagop]

Cedarjet80,

They opened up applications for first officers and direct entry captains between July 1 and July 31... there were a few applicants but the results are not finalized yet as far as I am concerned.
Have a look at Open Sky Aviation (http://www.openskyaviation.com)

[Hagop]

Any updates Turkelie? How were the examinations of phase 1 yesterday?

[Turkelie]

Hi Hagop,

The exam phase 1 went well.

Maths : Excellent
Physics : Very Good ( except for 5 questions out of 40 that i am not sure of their answers)
Cognitive: I did 26 out of 50
Mechanical and Spatial : Excellent
English was good too as for the essay I was very exhausted and tired at the end of the day but i managed to find good arguments.

So in general I did very good in the exam

Do you have any idea how long it takes for MEA to contact those who will jump to phase 2 ?

Im back to Montreal !

[Hagop]

Good to hear that Elie,

It generally takes around 15 to 20 days to finish up with phase 1 and contact all successful candidates for phase 2. However, on this selection, they have added an oral interview within phase 1 as stated on their website, so it could take a bit longer to call them for the interview and finish up with the phase. Phase 2 is planned for the week starting December 7, so stage 1 will be finalized within this month for sure.

[strikers_1]

Hello everyone,

So, people that applied for the 2017-2018 cadet pilot program! Any news someone? Who made it past the first phase? How was the process? Did they give you the final results?

Cheers!

[Hagop]

Hey,

We got the results of the first phase back in September. We finished all 6 phases now. We started off with a few hundred applicants, we are 21 cadets at the moment waiting for our final medical clearances from the airline. Some cadets already got their clearances and have already met the CEO prior to signing their contracts, some of us are still waiting to be cleared.

Cheers!

[Hagop]

They have just opened up their cadet pilot intake for 2018-2019. Good luck to those applying.

[Andrew.M]

They have just opened up their cadet pilot intake for 2018-2019. Good luck to those applying.
hello Hagop
i felt that I could use your help
I applied and the exam is on June 28.
However I am not sure what I should study to be well prepared when it comes to maths and physics. The samples seemed to be very easy.
should I study like for what it is called GSCE?
And then after the medical exam in spetember I should cover what I learnt in Grade 12?
thanks a lot

[Hagop]

hello Hagop
i felt that I could use your help
I applied and the exam is on June 28.
However I am not sure what I should study to be well prepared when it comes to maths and physics. The samples seemed to be very easy.
should I study like for what it is called GSCE?
And then after the medical exam in spetember I should cover what I learnt in Grade 12?
thanks a lot

Hey,

The Maths and Physics exams in phase 1 are pretty much our Lebanese LS/GS curriculum which is equivalent to UK's GCSE as stated. Do the sample questions, they are important and they reflect the content of the actual phase 1 exams. In the Physics exam you get 40 questions out of which 10 are aviation questions ranging from licenses, rules, aviation weather, instruments, aerodynamics. At my selection, we got a lot of electricity and magnetism questions in addition to mechanics. English is a 3 hour exam and looks just like a SAT exam. Then you have the cognitive, spatial relations, and mechanical apprehension. Practice the samples, they will give you an idea about what to expect. The most important thing is not to panic, cognitive and spatial exams are very long and cannot be finished. Just do what you can, do them correctly. Good luck.

[Andrew.M]

Thanks a lot man!

[boaatgoa]

Hello guys, I'm trying to apply to the cadet program for 2019. however I'm above the age limit... I'm 1992 and the last accepted birthdate is 1994. Does anyone know if they are flexible towards that issue? because the application doesnt go through if it doesnt meet all the requirements (1994, 168 cm height, etc.) What shall I do?

[Hagop]

Hello guys, I'm trying to apply to the cadet program for 2019. however I'm above the age limit... I'm 1992 and the last accepted birthdate is 1994. Does anyone know if they are flexible towards that issue? because the application doesnt go through if it doesnt meet all the requirements (1994, 168 cm height, etc.) What shall I do?

Going around the age requirement is absolutely doable. It's sad to say this but contacts/referrals help a lot. I have seen cadets way above the age limit getting accepted into the program during all these years. In fact, there are 2 cadets at the moment at FTE undergoing their training at age 30. You need to talk to someone who knows someone to get you through this age requirement. Concerning your height, they have set their minimum standard as 170 cm, and they are seriously strict about this during the initial medical examination with one of MEA's in house physicians. But then again, you might get around this requirement with the right contacts. Let them know about these 2 obstacles before you apply. We live in an unfair environment, all I can say is good luck!