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Grumpy Old ATCO
8th Aug 2006, 21:39
Is it allowed( MATS Part 1 or 2?), do you do it?, if so what do you tell the U/T that asks where it says you can, etc etc
Answers on a postcard
None that say ' use your common sense ' please
Very GOA
:)
Spitoon
8th Aug 2006, 23:19
Well if the obvious answer is out..... The question is, where does one learn common sense?
I would start by asking said U/T why they think they need to do it.
And no, I can't think of anything in the rules that specifically covers the situation. But the way that we are now training controllers - a procedure to follow in every situation - no doubt there soon will be!
Perhaps the U/T is extrapolating from the situation of losing radar contact with a flight going through the overhead. On the APR course we were told in such cases that a re-ident was required.
rolaaand
9th Aug 2006, 00:34
Area ATCO here so probably wrong-if an aircraft goes around from low level and is transferred back to radar,could the departure method of seeing the contact within a mile of the end of the runway not be used?
Inverted81
9th Aug 2006, 07:47
Area ATCO here so probably wrong-if an aircraft goes around from low level and is transferred back to radar,could the departure method of seeing the contact within a mile of the end of the runway not be used?
Only if you have a departure time passed by tower, now, this asks a further question, if twr co ordinates the go around is that sufficient as a "time of departure"?
If however you have never lost radar contact there is no need to re identify. If you have lost contact (as gonzo said) the a/c will be required to be re identified :ugh: .
Standard Noise
9th Aug 2006, 07:57
Only if you have a departure time passed by tower, now, this asks a further question, if twr co ordinates the go around is that sufficient as a "time of departure"?
If however you have never lost radar contact there is no need to re identify.
Indeed. If they do go around and are the only a/c to emerge from the radar overhead at the time of the go around, then what's the problem? But then we do use a Clee feed for our SSR and never lose the secondary ident.