Antonov-2 rating for PPL?

[acuba 290]

Just interesting how to get it and what are requirement for that...Does anybody has it , guys?

[Mark 1]

You probably already have it as it's an SEP.

You'll probably need a bit of coaching on the pneumatics, hydraulics and Cyrillics :rolleyes:

[BlueRobin]

Yes the AN-2, back when Wellesbourne had one and according to Zac Griffin, falls just within the 5.7 tonne limit for single pilot PPL ops and doesn't require a type rating. I could be totally wrong - it was some years ago!

[S-Works]

Its flown on the EP rating of a PPL. I have a friend who ownd one and have flown it on many occassions. It is inside the PPL weight limit.

Very nice to fly, burns as much oil as fuel and slow as a cub!

[Dogfighter]

You probably already have it as it's an SEP.

You'll probably need a bit of coaching on the pneumatics, hydraulics and Cyrillics :rolleyes:

I would say, take some serious coaching on the systems and runway characteristics of this aircraft. Especially with crosswind it is a tricky aircraft with lots of inertia in the nose and a huge sideways surface. Indeed it can be flown on a SEP class rating, but take your time to built experiance next to someone who knows the aircraft well. If you have taildragger experience this will help, also radial engine experience will help you understanding the systems and philosophy of this amazing aircraft.

Have fun, if you need specific details PM me.

DF (1000+ on type)

[flybyday]

Anyone know what happened to the AN-2 operated by Avon Flying School at EGBW a few years back? I'd heard it had been temporarily impounded by the airfield management after Avon went to the wall but I'm unaware of its whereabouts since then.

[hingey]

If you have taildragger experience this will help

I assume you need to have completed differences training with an instructor to fly taildraggers if you've only flown tricylce gear so far. Having said that you could theoretically do your differences training on the AN-2!

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[gcolyer]

What a great aircraft. nice and big, probably a good load lifter and it is not a fule guzzler. It has got to better than flying a PA32 300 with 6 pax and baggage.

[eharding]

it is not a fule guzzler. .

:eek:

I look forward to your definition of a 'fule guzzler'. 1000bhp to cruise at 100kt with that mother-of-god radial at the front, with more drag than the old Wembley stadium hosting a Queen concert?

[gcolyer]

120-170 ltr an hour that is pretty good for an aircraft that size, the PA32 that i fly burns in the region of 70-80 ltr and hour and fully loaded is not much fun. The AN2 would take half my load and still be half empty, it better performance than a PA32 as well.

AN-2 technical data:
wing span upper, lower:18.18 m, 14.24 m
lenght overall (tail up), (tail down): 12.71 m, 12.40 m
height overall (tail up), (tail down):6.10 m, 4.00 m
wing area: 71.60 m
weight empty:3450 kgMTOW:5500 kg
economic cruising speed:185 km/hmax rate of climb:3 m/s
take-off run (grass), (hard runway): 170 m, 150 m
take-off to 15 m (grass), (hard runway):495 m, 475 m
landing (grass), (hard runway): 185 m, 170 m
landing from 15 m (grass), (hard runway):432 m, 427 m
range at 1000 m with 700 kg payload: 1370 km
ceiling:4400 m
fuel consumption:120-170 l/h
oil consumption:15 kg/h

[Dogfighter]

fuel consumption:120-170 l/h
oil consumption:15 kg/h

I have flown quite some of these flying piano's and once managed to get the (11 hour) flight average down to 143 L/h at Fl 100. In real life you will be looking at 180-200 L/h for short flights up to 4500 feet. If you start dropping para's you will be looking at 220 L/h. I am note sure what a KG of oil costs in the UK :hmm: , but I sure hope your Cherokee burns less than that.

Flying one is great, just be sure not to own one. There are quite some restraints out on flying with passengers and cargo with the An-2.

Have fun, DF

[3 Point]

The AN 2 is an SEP aeroplane, there is no associated weight limit anymore so you are licenced to fly it if you have a current SEP rating on your licence. You will however need Difference training for tailwheel aircraft and (I presume the engine is supercharged) for supercharged engines and variable pitch props unless you already have experience of aircraft with these features. You could certainly do this training legally on the AN 2 but it might be wiser to start on something a bit smaller.

Happy landings

3 Point

[Dogfighter]

Just interesting how to get it and what are requirement for that...Does anybody has it , guys?

Hi Acuba,

I noticed now that you are flying out of Germany. If you want to know more about flying the An-2, get intouch with Classic Wings in Stadtlohn (EDLS). They oprate 4 of these aircraft around Germany and are actually one of the few that are permitted to conduct historical flights with passengers.

DF

[acuba 290]

thanx for infos. I would like to fly An-2 in Estonia actually, not in Germany. maybe as possibility to drop skydivers;)

[H Ferguson]

in America you can fly the A-2 on your PPL, but if you are carrying passengers then you need a second pilot(safety pilot?). i'm not sure if this would apply in europe

the A-2 can carry twleve passengers seated so maybe that's the reason for the restriction in america.i think it's also classed as an experimental type in the US

i would love to get the chance to fly the A-2, mind you , not sure i would like to own one . it just dosn't drink fuel, it sink's an oil well and sucks it dry!

[Billredshoes]

Hi All this is my first posting but I have been a guest for a long long time and I have flown Aerbabe around in the past.

I help run an AN2 club in the UK. You can fly it on a JAR SEP Rating with a taildrager and complex rating. We regularly fly PPL Pilots as P U/T with an experienced AN2 Pilot in the right seat in the UK. For further information please PM me

For type conversion it will depend on Aircraft Reg and the requirements of that Country’s CAA.

The AN2 that was at Welesbourne is now in Germany and is involved with on going Legal proceedings and I cannot comment any further than this.

Billredshoes
PS don’t blame me for my name it was Aerbabe for first called me this.

[AerBabe]

PS don’t blame me for my name it was Aerbabe for first called me this.

Really? :confused: Are you sure I didn't refer to you as a sailor?

[Billredshoes]

Hi AerBabe

Yep when we met up at Cov after we had been flying in my Garden Horizon you had a name tag with it on.( And I still were Red Shoe but NOT the same ones)

[AerBabe]

Your memory's better than mine! Must have made an impression on you. :}
Having said that ... 13 turns for the undercarriage, isn't it?

[Dogfighter]

Your memory's better than mine! Must have made an impression on you. :}
Having said that ... 13 turns for the undercarriage, isn't it?

Last thing I knew was that the An-2 had a fixed gear......:} Looks like were losing the thread here.