727 Sqn Moving

[Bismark]

Word in the pub is that 727 Sqn at Roborough is moving to Yeovilton by the end of the year and they are looking for local QFIs. Anyone know what is going on? Seems like a good idea to base the Sqn at a FAA station.

[airborne_artist]

BRNC - Roborough ~ 35 miles ; BRNC - Yeovilton ~ 80 miles, so it would make sense if the lads/lasses get to live in at VL while on grading.

What's the betting they'll have to go back to BRNC each night?

[cobaltfrog]

Ahhh mate you are on a role today aren't you. No they will not go back to BRNC each day!:D

[Tourist]

727, FW trappers, Historics and Heron mooted to share one building at Yeovilton. Probably 815's

I think the cricuit at Yeovs is going to be an absolute nightmare when full of Grobs

[sprucemoose]

Tourist:

When the circuit is full of Grobs? 727 only has five of them and you've just got rid of a load more SHARs than that!

[WhiteOvies]

At least the SHAR pilots knew what they were doing...........;)

[BEagle]

It'll give the bug.gers in Rapps something more to grumble about if you do your circuit flying at Merryfield!

They didn't seem so concerned at the noise the Vampires/Meteors/Sea Hawks and Sea Venoms used to make 50 years ago!

[6Z3]

At least the SHAR pilots knew what they were doing...........
You know, with the youngest grading instructor having well over 6000 instructional hours I suspect his total hours alone pretty well beats the combined total hours of your average SHAR sqn. So I suspect the 727 Sqn chaps know what they're doing.

[AllTrimDoubt]

You know, with the youngest grading instructor having well over 6000 instructional hours I suspect his total hours alone pretty well beats the combined total hours of your average SHAR sqn. So I suspect the 727 Sqn chaps know what they're doing.

:D

QED

:D

[fradu]

727, FW trappers, Historics and Heron mooted to share one building at Yeovilton. Probably 815's
I think the cricuit at Yeovs is going to be an absolute nightmare when full of Grobs

Interesting news if true. Perhaps this would one day allow the Historics to become viewable to the public, given the FAAM is only next door to 815NAS?

[rafloo]

Where are 815 moving to? Is it true that Culdrose is on the cards?

[WhiteOvies]

Apparently a large amount of real estate on the south of VL has recently become available. Little Portland for them at last.;)

[rafloo]

Nah, There is now way the forces that be would even consider moving the Lynx force following the disruption suffered by them over the previous few years...... They would have to be completely barking mad to even consider such an option....


Bit like re-naming the top man with the most ridiculous title ever heard....

There is a school of thought that the longer your title then the least worthwhile your job. A concept supported in government. I.E. if you are the assistant deputy secretary then in actual fact you are fairly low down the pecking order.


The new name for our intrepid leader is not only ridiculous but embarrasing.

Bring back a command structure to the Fleet Air Arm PLEASE

[foldingwings]

The new name for our intrepid leader is not only ridiculous but embarrasing.

Bring back a command structure to the Fleet Air Arm PLEASE

rafloo,

Not being Navy, you've lost me! What's the story here?

FW

[rafloo]

The post of ACOS (AV) Assistant Chief of Staff (Aviation) has been renamed....

Deputy Assistant undertudy to the Cleaner who once worked at Aviation HQ but now make lunchtime sanwhiches (Carrier Strike).... Or words to that effect. This is based on the fact that if you change a chaps job title it makes the job more important and more supportable whereas in actual fact is erodes the foundations of the command you are supposed to be supporting.

To the Sea Lords that read these pages...Please stop buggering about with my beloved FAA....Bring back a proper and recognised command structure with someone in charge who is recognisable to the troops on the ground.

[fradu]

Where are 815 moving to? Is it true that Culdrose is on the cards?

815NAS could be moved to the old FRADU/SHAR pan on the south-side.

[WhiteOvies]

:ok: Thats what I was hinting at yesterday. As far as I'm aware plans may already be in place.

[WE Branch Fanatic]

Don't mention southside - you'll cause rafloo (aka southside) to have a crisis!

On this thread (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=225507) he said:

Yes it is...Its a crock of Poo.

Now who on PPRuNe uses the term and has a poor grasp of English - and reality?

[WhiteOvies]

Thats why I didn't!:} Not to mention the possibility of having posts ignored. When the Lynx force moved up from Portland there was a perception they wanted their own space away from the rest of VL so they could continue the way things had always been done at Portland away from prying eyes. It didn't happen and they got tucked away in the corner. If they don't mind the embuggerance of having to move then the Dark side of VL is ideal.

[fradu]

Yeovilton definitely got a bit noiser when the Lynx' moved in.
You got at least one flying over our old house, located on the Yeovil/Mudford border, every ten minutes! :)

When they did move in to hangars 13 and 14 in 1998, what was in there previously?
The SHARs and Jetstreams were moved to the former FRADU Hunter pan, but I'm sure that those two weren't housed in there?

[rafloo]

I just think that there is no benefit in moving the LHF to the southside. There will be no increase in OC, no increase in Flying Hours and the cost will be prohibitive. Why spend all that money for no benefit?


Fradu....Prior to the Lynx being in 13 & 14 there were...... Lynx... 847 were moved out to make room.

[WhiteOvies]

There was various rumours about Chinoooks moving into the Dark side but the hangar ceilings were too low or something. I seem to recall post 9/11 something about a permanent QRA Tornado det.
If LHF moved that would leave North side available for more SH/CHF assets to move in should Benson or Odiham get the chop (thread creep and no doubt entirely rumour!):ooh:

[rafloo]

oi, oi .... you couldn't possible have any SH people going to Benson...Thats far to close to the simulator....No, No fella. Of to Lossie for you lot.

[fradu]

Fradu....Prior to the Lynx being in 13 & 14 there were...... Lynx... 847 were moved out to make room.
Thanks! Looking back (I used to go upto Yeovilton to watch whenever I could after school) I'm sure the SHARs were housed in 1-3 hangars before the move south. Back in the 1980s it was a very busy airfield.

As a civilian, I have heard several rumours since the announcement that the SHARs would go from people 'on the perimeter'.
Culdrose closing and Chinooks moving in comprised the most popular rotary-wing rumours.
Fixed wing have been more diverse, Jaguars and Tonkas moving in being one such possibility.
A rumour that crops up regularly is FRADU moving back from Culdrose, though this might have originated from the NFSF Hawks based at Yeovilton.
RAF xx Sqn moving in from Valley and/or RAF 100 Sqn from Leeming has also been mentioned to me.

I've always replied, I'll believe it when it happens!

[cloud.hopper]

Hi Guys, thought it about time to bust my cherry so here goes.

As I seem to remember it in the early 90's :ok: ...

707 - 10 Hangar
3 BAS - 9 Hangar
845/846 - 6,7 & 8 Hangars
899 - 4 Hangar
800/801 - 13 & 14 Hangars
FRADU - 15 Hangar (Hunters)
Heron Flight - 16 Hangar

Back to the original thread the latest I have heard is that 727 are going dark side along with 815, Historic Flight and Heron Flight are going north (good for the FAA Museum) and, just to add to the rumour mill.....:E possibly an Army Lynx battallion coming back from Germany..!

No substance... but surely a rumour network is the place to have a rumour, it is doing the rounds...

Thats all for now...

CH........

[fradu]

This was posted on the Royal Navy web-site...
Relocation of 727 Naval Air Squadron to RNAS Yeovilton
The Royal Navy has announced its intention to relocate 727 Naval Air Squadron from Plymouth Airport to RNAS Yeovilton in Somerset. A study into the recruitment and retention of Royal Navy aircrew has resulted in a rationalization of flying hours at the Squadron and the introduction of a new Air Experience Flying Course. The course is designed to introduce the Fleet Air Arm to prospective candidates and includes a short introductory flight in the Squadron’s aircraft. As a result, it has been decided to relocate the Squadron to RNAS Yeovilton in Somerset where students can be better introduced to the Fleet Air Arm ethos and culture and can gain an insight into the workings of an operational airfield and its associated Squadrons and aircraft.
The Royal Navy has enjoyed a long and productive relationship with Plymouth Airport, starting in 1949 with Tiger Moths for recreational flying for cadets from Britannia Royal Naval College. The number of aircraft rose to 7 when it was decided to start grading aviators prior to formal flying training to prevent unnecessary wastage and by the end of 1966, the Squadron was operating 12 Chipmunks with grading as its primary task. 1994 saw the Chipmunks replaced with 5 Grob aircraft and while grading remains the primary task of the squadron, a variety of other courses are also run including the training of Air Engineers and, until recently, Commando Aircrewmen.
727 Squadron will continue to conduct grading from its new location as well as increasing its portfolio to include up to 350 air experience flights per year for students from around the UK.

[rafloo]

727 Squadron will continue to conduct grading from its new location

What Location...? North or South....


350 air experience flights per year for students from around the UK.
..??? Errrr, do you mean one a day? .....5 Grobs....for 1 sortie a day..????


For Gawds sake, don't tell the treasury

[AllTrimDoubt]

Fradu - can you give a link please?

VMT

[fradu]

Fradu - can you give a link please?
VMT

Sure. Cut and pasted from here...

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.5549

[AllTrimDoubt]

Thanks FRADU - copied!