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Somedaymaybe
20th Mar 2006, 09:53
Hi All,

Can anyone advise me of how many hours I must do in my first year and also my second in order to keep my PPL valid, I did read I am sure that you need to complete 6 in the first 12 months and then 6 the following 12 months?

Is this the Case??

Thanks
SDM :ok:

robin
20th Mar 2006, 10:19
Nothing required in the first year, but 12 hours in the second year (6 as P1), including the 1 hour instructional flight.

TangoZulu
20th Mar 2006, 11:52
I think you will find it is 12 hours in the second year of rating validity (of which a minimum of 6 must be P1) INCLUDING a one hour flight with an instructor or examiner - which can be the successful completion of an approved flight test (e.g. IMC initial or renewal).

Hope this helps

Edited to eat humble pie having now found and read the appropriate section in LASORS!

robin
20th Mar 2006, 12:04
The hour with the instructor counts towards the 12 hours

Somedaymaybe
20th Mar 2006, 14:52
Thanks Guys thats excellent.

EGBKFLYER
20th Mar 2006, 14:57
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/LASORS_06_WEB.pdf

Ladies/ gents:

Don't guess - buy or download (it's free) the above. It will tell you what you need to know in most cases. In this case, find F1.4 - revalidation of an SEP class rating and it will spell it out.

LASORS is very easy to navigate once you use it a few times and being an official publication, it isn't subject to the guessing (all be it educated) you sometimes find on PPRuNe;)

GusHoneybun
20th Mar 2006, 15:10
just to clear up a few points,

to revalidate your SEP rating you need the 12 hours (6 P1) in the second year with an 1 hour instructor flight. your certificate of revalidation must be signed by an examiner before the rating expires. if you fail to do this then you must
renew your SEP. this is a flight with an examiner, similar to your skills test, but conducted more as a lesson than a check. after this the examiner signs your certificate of experience for two years from the date of test.

your SEP is a rating not a licence.


your PPL licence is valid for 5 years from date of issue and is renewed by paying a fee to the CAA, who then issue your PPL again for 5 years.

Mike Cross
20th Mar 2006, 21:58
your PPL licence is valid for 5 years from date of issue and is renewed by paying a fee to the CAA, who then issue your PPL again for 5 years.Unless, like mine, it's a CAA rather than a JAA one and is non-expiring:p

TangoZulu
20th Mar 2006, 22:18
Mr Cross

Don't rub it in! Just been reminded that I must send my shiny (?) JAR-PPL off for it's first 5 year renewal and pay the CAA the princely sum of £63 - for exactly what I am not sure :{

Still, noone ever said flying was a cheap hobby ;)

distaff_beancounter
21st Mar 2006, 08:49
Like Mike Cross, I am still flying on my dear old fashioned CAA PPL which is marked 'Valid for Life'. ;)

So how exactly does the JAA 5 yearly renewal add to flight safety?

Except it does tell the CAA that the pilot is still alive and capable of writing out a cheque for £63! :{

Whopity
21st Mar 2006, 19:46
Nothing to do with FLIGHT SAFETY, its EUROCRAP which our current goverment obeys at all cost!