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Lil' Pilot
8th Feb 2005, 16:06
I came across this photo, and something drawed my attention....the thrust levers. Seems there are no ordinary thrust levers in this aircraft. Are the blue things on each side of the pedestal some sort of thrust levers? Doesn't seem logical to me.

F28 TL's? (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=773194&WxsIERv=Sbxxre%20S-28-1000P%20Sryybjfuvc&WdsYXMg=Netragvan%20-%20Nve%20Sbepr&QtODMg=Ohrabf%20Nverf%20-%20ONZ%20Ry%20Cnybzne%20%28FNQC%29&ERDLTkt=Netragvan&ktODMp=Wnahnel%208%2C%202005&BP=0&WNEb25u=WZT%20-%20ONVERF%20Nivngvba%20Cubgbtencul&xsIERvdWdsY=GP-55&MgTUQtODMgKE=Na%20bireivrj%20bs%20gur%20SQ.%20%28Bylzchf%20P-740HM%29&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=75&NEb25uZWxs=2005-02-07&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=11024&static=yes&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Sbxxre%20S-28%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=3&tbl=COCKPIT&size=L)

Flap Sup
8th Feb 2005, 17:18
The short answer: Yes.

They are coupled, so if you move left throttle, left side, you also move left throttle, right side. Dunno why it was made so, though. Must admit, I never actually flew the F28, only did MCC in one.

/fs

Rainboe
8th Feb 2005, 18:17
It's not an unusual coonfiguration, seen most often in the larger flight decks. The Vanguard with its enormous flight deck had this, I think the Comet may have done, and at least one of the V bombers had it. It gives each pilot his own thrust levers. Whether it is needed on the F28 I wouldn't like to say- the designer and builder thought so, but all the civil Boeings don't have it.
Why does the copilot need a letterbox in the front panel?

Kit d'Rection KG
8th Feb 2005, 20:56
The FK-100 (actually an F28 Mk100, on paper) had one set of TLs, central on the pedestal - and they were a long way away from the pilot!

It also strikes me that the original F28 flight deck is a model of simplicity and has acres of free space, also a hallmark of the wonderful FK-100.

The letter box, by the way, is to enable the First Officer to post the signed loadsheet to the despatcher or pushback crew, before departure but after the stairs are removed. It has a chute down to an outlet on the left side of the nose.

dv8
8th Feb 2005, 22:33
In addition to the above posts
The difference between the Capt and FO's thrust lever is the left hand PL has a lift dump manual override selector

Kit
Letter box :D
Do you need a 1st class stamp on that?

Although ATR's do have a doucument hatch beside the Capts NWS

MkVIII
9th Feb 2005, 09:13
Contrary to what others have written before me, the F28 does NOT have thrust levers at all - they are volume control levers.

Only problem is the system only plays one track - "The Spey Overture" and it is LOUD REGARDLESS of the position of the levers.

:p ;)

Now, I must away, my ears are bleeding...

junior_man
12th Feb 2005, 21:45
I am sweating reading this, as the F 28 was better known as the " Dutch Oven" for it's completely ineffective air conditioning system.

Kit d'Rection KG
18th Feb 2005, 20:07
Aaaah, the ATR Catflap - very useful, unless you flew (as I did) for a company which had Tech Logs too big to pass through the hole!

The F28 Mk100 - or Fokker 100 - had the air conditioning packs under the flight deck floor, as the thrust reversers were a late modification to the aircraft, and some weight had to be moved forwards to compensate. The engines were almost silent from the flight deck, but as the packs shut down on TO/GA selection, it's the only aircraft I know which got noticeably quieter when you started the takeoff!

That said, we were very aware of passenger comfort in the rear-most rows, and used to climb in manual thrust and V/S very often to keep the noise changes to a minimum. How many Chief Pilots now would be horrified to learn that!

Mtc.
19th Feb 2005, 22:20
Although not noticeable in this pic, most F28's also had a dual steering tiller...Now comes the more sensitive topic...There are certain countries that required a 'local' in the left seat, wether capable or not...So, many a time all the work was done from the right seat....This would make the dual TL's a handy item also....