EDDF for the first time

[Turbine Cowboy]

Hiya,

First time to FRA.... tomorrow on a flight check

Gone over all the plates and charts. Just wanted to ask for any pointers from anyone who is familliar with the airport.

Will be arriving from over PSA

Take cover......

T.C

:E

[Dan Winterland]

On the 07s and 25s, you may be given a late runway allocation, or even a sidestep - so have both approach plates out.

[CruisingSpeed]

Dont tell me there are any other than 07/25's to land on Dan, you scare me... :D

but as an aside, anyone ever landed on 18? :O

[Immelmann]

Yep, 26L (depending on aircraft category)

however seldom used.

Have a look for "minimum rwy occupancy time" - which turn off you should use.
Had go arounds for guys rolling down the rwy to save breaks!
ERxpect ATC call like "landing clearance over the lights".

Good ATC!

[wheelie0415]

Ok, here we go:

After PSA you will normally get a clearance to CHA (regardless of RWY direction!) and you will be sent over to FRA Approach.

Stick to all assigned speeds (penalty routings with some more miles in case of failing! If you are unable to comply with an assigned speed inform the controller) and always be prepared for a FMS-transition which you have to follow laterally. Check them on the maps. Depending on the amount of traffic you have to expect a direct routing to a specific FMS-waypoint as well as radar vectors.

RWY assignements will be given by Frankfurt Director (127.275 MHz). In case of RWY 07 in use you´ll get the RWY assignement on the righthand downwind and definitly not too late. But be prepared for a short approach; something btn 6 and 9NM. Never shorter cause of noise abatement.

In case of RWY 25 in use you´ll get a routing which finally leads you to a position of 14 to 16NM final as well due to noise abatement.

In both cases (RWY 07 or RWY 25) and on final already you will be instructed to maintain 170 KTS until passing the OM.

The landing clearance sometimes will be issued rather late, don´t panic, it´s normal. FRA works with reduced RWY-separation, so don´t worry if there´s a departure ahead of you which seems to be pretty close.

Just dare to come, we don´t bite,
:cool:

Looking forward to your visit. Have a nice time at FRA

Wheelie

[HiBipass]

Pay attn to the use of phrase "clear transition" "clear profile" the differance is shown on the plates.

ILS has verbal ID's.

If you coming from the E expect an early descent below FL240.

G' luck

[None]

EDDF seems to be one of the best run operations.