ATPL Pilots - Current numbers.

[Icarus2001]

I am doing some research about current pilot numbers in Australia and I want to reconcile the data from CASA FCL with the numbers actually employed in various airlines in Australia.

Could people with accurate figures post below so I can update the following list. It may be of interest generally to see what the big end of town requires.

Looking for TOTAL pilot numbers Capt/FO/SO.

Qantas = 2250 pilots

Australian Airlines= 75 pilots

Jetstar= 200 pilots

Eastern Airlines= 250 pilots

Sunshine Express= 24 pilots

Pelair= 49 pilots

Transair= 23 pilots

Airlink (Dubbo)= 12 pilots

O'Connor= 21 pilots

Alliance Airlines=

Regional Pacific=

Sunstate=

Virgin Blue= 580 pilots

Regional Express=

Aeropelican=

M@cair=

Skywest= 50 pilots

National Jet=

Air North=

Skippers=

Pearl Aviation= 50 pilots

In addition there is the RFDS...

RFDS South East

RFDS Central

RFDS Qld=

RFDS West= 26 pilots


In 2001 there were 6427 ATPL(A) licence holders.

In 2002, 424 ATPLs were issued and there were 5,969 in total.

In 2003, 387 ATPLs were issued and there were 6,046 in total.

In 2004, 373 ATPLs were issued and there were 6,025 in total.

[dirtylittlefokker]

Icarus2001

A good place to start would be the number of Jet AOCs in the country?
:rolleyes:

[ComeByChance]

Why only those companies?

What about the following companies:

Airnorth
Skippers
Sunshine Express
Jet-cr@ft
Pelair
Transair
Airlink (Dubbo)
O'Connor
Alliance Airlines
Regional Pacific

These companies are larger or equal to Aeropelican, M@cair and Skywest. All of the above operate aircraft that require two crew.

[Chilli Tarts]

Jet-cr@ft is a single pilot operation.

[OzExpat]

Perhaps also add NJS to the list? In any event, the resultant numbers may not be truly reflective of all the ATPLs issued by CASA. This is because there are many people like myself who keep their Oz ATPL current but work overseas.

[Icarus2001]

dirtylittlefokker not really helpful as an AOC gives no indication of number of pilots eg VB vs Skywest etc.

Only one reply so far about VB numbers. Any more useful info?

I can always ring every airline but I will get some PR ditz giving me an out of date spiel.

comebychance done. I am happy to add these.

ozexpat yes thank you for stating the obvious! There are plenty of ATPL holders flying single engine VFR. I know this. The TOTAL figures are available from CASA, I am looking for a breakdown.

[F111]

Sunshine Express Airlines total 24.

[Pappy Boyington]

O'Connor = 21.

[hoss]

Eastern Australia Airlines is about 250ish. It changes weekly.

:)

[Icarus2001]

Back to the top. Any more numbers?

[Gateway Customer]

Pilots with a frozen ATPL and currently on Unemployment benefits

Total 10, 847

[Icarus2001]

Everyone wants to be a comedian.:rolleyes:

How about some useful numbers?

[Capt Stabbin]

QF mainline approx 2250.
AO approx 75? - this is a guess.

[Keg]

QF seniorority list shows 2234 as at 1 Jun 04. Factor in 12 a month (or thereabouts) for the next six months and you're pretty close. This will include all AO drivers as well.

However, not all of those 2300(ish) will be ATPL holders. Some will still only hold the basic CPL and will be awaiting hours fo qualify for the award of their ATPL.

[Capt Stabbin]

Good one, Keg :ok:

When are you going to the 400? :)

[turbinejunkie]

Pelair has 30 on the metro and 19 on the whirlwind. Pretty sure all have ATPLs.

TJ:ok:

[compressor stall]

A good thread - I too would be very interested to see the numbers.

Also the RFDS is a major employer, although some may not have ATPL.

At last report, WA section had about 26 pilots.
Then there is QLD, SE section and Central also.

[Frank Burden]

Rick in QLD or Peter in SA should be able to provide the RFDS numbers.

[jarjar]

Pearl has approximately 50+:ok:

[compressor stall]

What do the yearly ATPL figures mean - given the licence is perpetual (my little green book says so) is that the number of people alive today with one, or is it the number of people with ATPLs and current class 1 medicals?

[Icarus2001]

The figures are on the CASA website here...http://www.casa.gov.au/avreg/fcl_lic/fcl_req.htm
and are for ATPL holders with a "current medical that enables the holder to exercise the priveleges of their licence."

So one would assume Class 1 medical for CPL and above.

Looking at the figures in my first post it looks like Qanthais, VB and Jetstar employ around 3000 pilots. Most of whom would hold an ATPL. That accounts for about half of the ATPL holders in Australia.

[mjbow2]

Airlink = 12 pilots

[removalist]

Transair would have about 23 approx. with probably a bit over half with an ATPL. This includes Big Sky Express.

[2FarCanard]

J* Seniority list dated 7/12/04

184 PILOTS but there are about 40 being trained or about to be trained.

[Icarus2001]

So that is 3,584 pilots so far.

What about some input from drivers at Skippers, National Jet, Air North etc?

[CockpitJunkie]

relate the stats to

http://www.casa.gov.au/avreg/fsa/03nov/62.pdf

[Icarus2001]

Back to the top.

I still need some numbers from the regional operators. See the first post on this thread. If you don't want to identify yourself as being attached to a certain operator ;) then PM me. I will keep your dirty little secret.

[Keg]

Good one, Keg

When are you going to the 400?



As soon as I can unless a 767 command comes up in the mean time (and the CAAC clears me!) :}

[Ozgrade3]

Anyone else with some numbers.

Still looking for numbers of pilot at

Alliance

Rex

Sunstate

National Jet

Sky west

Air North

******

[scrambler]

The new link for the CASA updated website relating to licence numbers is

http://casa.gov.au/fcl/fcl_req.htm

[Chocks Away]

QRA - QLD Regional.Airlines :
6 X ATPLs (Captains) and growing.

Eatern:
Smiggen over 200 Tech crew.
All ATPLs