Make Love not Go Arounds

[Bigpants]

I am not sure who was on Director this afternoon at BHX but I would like to pass this on. I am not a huge fan of ASRs and CHIRPs but I feel the need to share this.

Today was a bit breezy and as I was making my first approach we encountered windshear at about 700 feet and had to go around (A319) We were fed back in for another ILS but Director chose to also feed in a regional jet for an SRA to 24 at the same time.

Now Director must have been a fighter controller because he set up a fantastic 90 degree intercept at zero. an ILS on 15 and an SRA on 24 ( I am ex Lightnings and appreciate this sort of talent) Which resulted in another Go Around by which time the fuel was getting tight, almost as tight as my rear end I might add.

In fact I have not been quite as frightened in some time and felt the need to drive home very quickly in order to hug my whisky bottle (Balvenie) Given the weather conditions it was pointless to divert and so 3rd go I chucked ( I mean landed )the Airbus on the deck and walked away.

Should anyone else feel inclined to give me the same sort of service I will have to pay them a special visit (Liaison?) . .Love and Kisses Bigpants

PS to anyone that was cut up by a lunatic shouting at himself in a blue Ford Focus heading north on the M6 I am very very sorry.

pps Message edited because Mrs Bigpants felt original entry was both crude and unfunny ( but she is ex RAF ATC )

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[surfingatco]

My sympathies! In the old days when 23 at LHR had decent aids (ie an ILS) we used to revel in the 27L (or more likely 28L) against 23 landers and we rarely got it wrong (okay I remember once but he's retired now) <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

If it was a really strong southerly, you put them on the respective runways at the same ranges and the 27(8)L traffic always landed first. The next 27(8)L lander was positioned at a range which was 90 degrees to the 23 final approach. That meant it was about 5 miles further out than the 23 lander to allow the 23 traffic to land and vacate before clearing the 27(8)L traffic to land.

Having just re-read the last paragraph, it sounds gobbeldygook - I'm sure other airfields that use cross approaches all the time have their own methods.

Now, 09R departures against 05 landers - that WAS interesting!

P.S. Mine's a Highland Park <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[Mr Simple]

Usually on crossed rwy approaches (a few years ago at Glasgow) I'd put in a GOOD 6 mile gap, just in case one went around - cos' it would make my ring twitch way too much watching you both disappear down the hole in the middle. Obviously BHX doesn't teach the 'ten and sixpence rule' .. then again maybe they didn't practice sitting at Waddington, waiting for fuel starved Lightnings to go-around from Binbrook-on-the-hill and break for 21 ... :-) BP, you're not JC are u ?

[Bigpants]

Mr Simple no but I did now a JC at Binbrook in 1985-8. Speaking of happy days at Waddington do you remember the Lightning that ended up at Swinderby?. .Thanks for the replies I think it is part and parcel of the weather we are experiencing that pushes the system into similtaneous approaches and of course the real difficulties in managing this smoothly. We do not have landing data for the 319 onto 24 at BHX but I don't blame the smaller types from using it, very sensible given recent conditions.. .Best Wishes BP. .PS I watched the news that evening and saw someone very nearly crash at LBA