What has happened to Atlantic 252?

[Cruise Alt]

Tuned in the ADF to 252 last week on a long nav sector only to find that there was no music. Having the usual flying school modern state of the art radio nav kit (NOT) I couldn't make out any of the words. I tried again a couple of days later and still no music. As far as I can make out it is now a sports talk station. Good if you can hear some results - bad if you can only hear distorted static. What can I do to impress those shiny new students who are impressed with anything with a dial or knob. And more to the point what is there to do on long Navs? Does anyone have any suggestions for other radio stations. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[BEagle]

It took me about 0.08 seconds on Google to find that Atlantic 252 was acquired last year and has been rebranded as a non-stop sports talk radio station. My idea of hell, second only to 'yoof-cuwcha' drivel and that tuneless 'garage' or whatever it's called noise that is often heard booming out from tatty little hot hatchbacks.

There are better things to do whilst navigating aircraft than to listen to pop music stations, in my view....

[niknak]

Cruise - please let us all know where you instruct, it's always a pleasure to avoid stupid f***kwhits like you who encourage students to deviate from the straight and narrow. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[Cruise Alt]

Hey Nik Nak, Thanks for the compliment. Let me know where you work. It sounds a bright and cheerful place (I don't think). Senses of humour should be left at the door! Obviously this forum should only be concerned with how dire the aviation situation is and how bad life is as an instructor. I remember the reason I got into this in the first place was because flying is fun - and that I try to pass on to those I teach <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Anyone agree?

PS How do you teach your students what exactly a NDB is? Telling them it is like any normal radio transmitter seems to do the trick and then prove it in Ex18C.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Hey Cruise Alt:

I tend to agree with you as long as listening to music does not distract from the necissity to remain aware of what you are doing. Music as a background can in many cases improve ones attitude and should not detract from the task at hand.

That is unless the person listening is a one channel moron in the thinking process.

You are correct that flying should be pleasurable and anyone who blows it up into some exotic art form so difficult that only the very gifted can fly airplanes is missleading their audience.

What is the difference in driving your car and listening to music and flying your airplane? Except that flying requires less fixed attention to what you are doing. ( of course you must moniter your aircraft radio for other traffic and any airtraffic control transmissions, but that is not a big problem.)

..................... . :) The hardest thing about flying is knowing when tosay no. :)

[niknak]

Cruise,having re read your post, I now get the jist of what you were trying to say........ .guess I chose the wrong night to quit sniffing large felt tip markers, sorry mate.. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

[Cruise Alt]

No Worries Nik

[jsf]

niknak

You quit sniffing markers? Are you mad? What are you doing pre flight briefings with, four colours of chalk? <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[Tinstaafl]

What's wrong with chalk? As long as you take the time to cut it enough before snorting... :)

[CaptAirProx]

CruiseAlt, there is always time for light relief in the cockpit. I quite often use the ADF in such a manner to break the ice when things are getting heavy! Provided the stude realises its there for a specific reason and not to be hip and trendy then the odd listen is no probs. Its the way instructors present these things that matters. Don't know where you fly but try 1215Hz. Golden rule tho, never leave it selected for the next pilot or you'll get a cavalier reputation!

[The mole]

One of my champagne flying moments:

Local flight at dusk on my own on calm cloudless evening. No traffic or chatter, so I tune into Radio Five Live and England are Beating Germany 5-1. Does life get any better?