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captainkilner
15th Feb 2002, 17:26
Any instructors out there ?

Just wandering what the salary was like been an instructor ? and is it based on the amount of people you instruct or is it a set salary ??

What's the instructing situation like at the minute ? are you guy's busy ? and is there any vacancies out there ?

After reading all the posts out there at the moment this looks to be the only flying option available at the minute !!

Hope to hear from some of you instructors out there, any info would be appreciated.

Cheers Guy's . . :) :)

captainkilner
15th Feb 2002, 23:30
WEY HEY !!!

If were this short of instructors then things are definately looking up !!!!!!

:) :) :) :) :)

jsf
16th Feb 2002, 01:01
Q What is the square root of Zero?

A Close to an instructors salary! <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

juswonnafly
16th Feb 2002, 02:01
Captain K.

There are more instructors than you can shake a dozen sticks at! The pay is generally very poor <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> . And if everybody becomes an instructor there will be no one left to teach! :)

JWF <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

captainkilner
16th Feb 2002, 04:27
Ce la ve mon amigos point taken !!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

captainkilner
16th Feb 2002, 04:38
P.S.

Point taken JSF & Juswonnafly but it didn't really answer any of the topic questions !!

I take it you guy's are Frozen with CPL/IR ?

Cheers for the helpful feedback guy's !!!

<img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> :) <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> :) :)

juswonnafly
16th Feb 2002, 10:29
Captain K.

Sorry dude, in a flippant mood I suppose :)

For a newly qualified F.I. (restricted) it is very much a case of being on the lowest rung of the ladder, there are many steps to climb and it is a long way to the top! Many flying schools take advantage of this and pay very low rates. Unfortunately it is like everything else in life (and flying), you are paid relative to experience, need and supply. Because we all have a desire to build hours and there are a lot of F.I (R's) around the competition is fierce and there is always another instructor ready to take your place. This leads to low pay and insecurity for the instructor. Generally instructors are paid by the flying hour and this is between £10 and £15 on average. A few schools will also pay a small retainer per day. The problem with this is that you are often expected to be at the school all day even if you don't fly. On average you might expect to fly 400 to 600 hours a year so you can see that you won't earn a fortune!

There is little demand at the moment for instructor positions due to the time of year. The spring usually is the time when new positions are offered.

Instructing has always been a good way to build hours and experience (and hopefully still will be in the future) however the current economic climate and the "11.9.01" effect have had a big impact on the situation. Traditionally the experienced instructors would move on to airlines leaving room for new blood. This has virtually come to a complete halt at the moment so fewer positions will become available for newly qualified instructors.

I hope this posting does not look TOO depressing, perhaps you can see why my previous answer was short! :) :)

Still, 'chin up' the worst we can do is lose our houses, cars, partners, kids etc etc blah blah....................(WHOA....only joking) <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Flying..............it's a way of life innit?!

Cheers

JWF

DESCEND WHEN READY
17th Feb 2002, 16:19
Things have slowed down in Oz. I have a Grade 3 (almost senior). A number of factors can be attributed to this however I think prospects are looking a bit better.. .Sadly media have this amazing ability to beat up the slightest of training mishaps and convey learning to fly as about as dangerous as eating blowfish.

In terms of pay it is not great however putting in a bit of work (advertisisng) and treating everyone that walks through the door as a potential student keeps things ticking over.

Thankfully a few charters keep me just above the poverty line.

weasil
18th Feb 2002, 04:03
Things have slowed down in the US too but they vary greatly depending on where you work.

Large academies pay between $6/hr to $12/hr but you get lots of flight time.

Smaller schools often let you charge whatever you like. I'm currently charging $35/hr and flying about 40hrs a month. Some instructors with lots of experience or those working at the airports in silicon valley (lots of rich dot commers) are charging up to $60/hr for dual flight instruction. So I guess it's what you make of it over here.