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Scottie
4th Apr 2004, 21:05
I'm going to Nova Scotia on holidays soon and was wondering about getting a Canadian PPL or just bashing the circuit for a few hours with an instructor.

I've a UK ATPL at the moment, does anyone know what rights my ATPL would give me?

I had a US and a UK PPL but I've let them both lapse.

Cheers,
Scottie

pittss2b
4th Apr 2004, 21:40
Greetings,

It easy to get a Canadian PPL out of a ATPL. Here are the steps:

Private Pilot Licence

There are 3 options for converting the Private pilot licence:

Foreign Licence Validation Certificate (FLVC)
Limited Term Private Pilot Licence (LTPL or LTPL/MC)
Private Pilot licence (PPL)
Recreational Flying in Canada: Foreign Licence Validation Certificate (FLVC)

A foreign pilot licence of a visitor whose residence is outside Canada may be validated for private recreational purposes. The foreign pilot licence must be valid under the law of the issuing state and valid for the privileges appropriate to the specific purpose.

An applicant should apply for a Foreign licence Validation Certificate (FLVC) before arriving in Canada. The FLVC will be issued for a period of one year at which time the applicant may choose to renew it, or apply for a permanent Canadian Pilot Licence.

The applicant may fax a copy of their pilot licence and their valid Medical Certificate to one of Transport Canada's Regional offices.

Transport Canada Safety and Security, General Aviation, Personnel Licensing, Place de Ville, Tower C, 6th Floor, Area D, 330 Sparks Street, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0N8. Phone (204) 983 4341 Email

There is a licensing fee of $45 Cdn. applicable that may be paid by a certified cheque, money order or credit card number, (the cheque should be made payable to ("The Receiver General for Canada").



Flight Training in Canada: Limited Term Private Pilot Licence (LTPL or LTPL/MC)

As a result of the increasing numbers of pilots coming to Canada each year to train for and receive additional licence privileges, Transport Canada will now issue a Limited Term Pilot Licence and Medical Certificate (LTPL/MC) or Limited Term Pilot Licence (LTPL). The LTPL/MC is based on a valid foreign pilot licence and the medical document validating that licence. The LTPL is based on a valid foreign pilot licence..

As a result this will permit foreign pilot licence holders to fly Canadian registered aircraft internationally for private recreational purposes. The holder of this LTPL/MC or LTPL may act as pilot-in-command or co-pilot of any aircraft for the sole purpose of his or her own flight training or flight test. This document may also be endorsed with additional ratings

The following conditions are applicable for the issue of a LTPL/MC.

a) The foreign licence must have been issued by a Contracting State of ICAO and be valid under the law of the issuing state for the privileges appropriate to the specific purpose.

b) The foreign Medical Certificate must be valid in accordance with Canadian medical standards. (For example: In the case of a pilot who is under 40 years of age, a LTPL/MC shall not be issued if more than 24 months has lapsed since the date of the last medical exam. In the case of a pilot who is 40 years of age or older, no more than 12 months shall have lapsed since the last medical examination.)

c) The LTPL/MC validity period shall not exceed 90 days.

d) A LTPL/MC may only be issued to an applicant once in any 12 month period.

e) There will be a licensing fee of $25 Cdn. for this document.

f) There is no requirement for a written examination.

g) The LTPL/MC may be endorsed for additional privileges if the required conditions are met.

The following conditions are applicable for the issue of a LTPL.

a) The foreign licence must have been issued by a Contracting State of ICAO and be valid under the law of the issuing state for the privileges appropriate to the specific purpose.

b) A Canadian medical conducted by a Civil Aviation Medical Examiner (CAME) and assessed fit in the appropriate category by a Transport Canada Medical Advisor may validate an LTPL.

c) The LTPL validity period shall not exceed 90 days.

d) A LTPL may only be issued to an applicant once in any 12 month period.

e) There will be a licensing fee of $25 Cdn. for this document.

f) There is no requirement for a written examination.

g) The LTPL may be endorsed for additional privileges if the required conditions are met.

Should further information be required please contact Transport Canada, General Aviation, Personnel Licensing at (613) 990-1058, Fax (613) 990-6215.

Private Pilot Licence Issued On the Basis of Foreign Licence

Candidates who want a long term Canadian Private Pilot licence are advised to convert to a full Canadian licence.

An applicant who is the holder of a Private Pilot Licence issued by another country shall be considered to have met the ground school, written examination, and the flight test provided that

Obtained a Canadian Class III medical or higher
Candidate has obtained 90% in the written examination PSTAR. Use the online course at www.aviationspot.com
Completed 5 take-offs and 5 landings within the 6 months preceding the date of application
Has at least 45 hours total flight time, 12 hours solo, 5 hours instrument 3 hours dual cross country, and 5 hours solo cross country.
Once completing the above the candidate will be issued a licence stating it is based on a foreign licence, to remove this statement the Private Pilot written examination must be complete.



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Commercial Pilot Licence

To obtain a Canadian CPL -A, the following requirements must be met:
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VII, Section 421.30 )

1. Complete the medical examination requirements in accordance with the Medical Standards for Civil Aviation Personnel Licensing and be in possession of a Category 1 Medical Certificate. This cost about $100, for a listing of doctors go to: http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/cam/CamSearch.asp

2. Proof that the experience requirement is met.
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VII, Section 421.30, Para (4)).
An applicant should be able to provide Transport Canada with a log book of their flight experience for review.

3. Meet the knowledge requirements by successfully completing the following written examination: CPAER This exam cost $105 to write, study guides and books are about $150, ground school [optional] cost about $400, the best option is online ground school
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VII, Section 421.30, Para (3)).

4 .Meet the skill requirement by successfully completing a practical Flight Test. Flight test cost $200 + the airplane rental. The amount of training or practice prior to the flight test depends on the pilots currency and ability. Click here for aircraft rental rates.
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VII, Section 421.30, Para (5)).

5. Complete the standard administrative requirements such as submitting proof of foreign citizenship and age, provide the foreign licence and log book for evaluation, submit a licence application form and pay the appropriate fee.
(This is conducted at a transport Canada office) $55 fee.

With a pilot who is current and proficient the above will take 1 week.

For people wishing to immigrate or work in Canada, contact Citizenship and Immigration Canada.


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Multi Rating

To obtain a Canadian Multi-Engine Rating, the following requirement must be met:

An applicant wishing to obtain a Multi-Engine Rating, to be endorsed on the CPL-A, must meet the requirements set out in the CARs
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division X, Section 421.38, Section (3))

If you have 50 hours Pilot-in-Command on multi-engine aeroplanes or have met the standard of the State that issued the rating, in the preceding 12 months (based upon date of application), then Transport Canada may issue your Canadian Multi-Engine Rating based upon your current Multi-Engine Rating. However, if an applicant is unable to satisfy these requirements, they must demonstrate their skill through the successful completion of a practical flight test. Flight test cost $200 + the airplane rental. The amount of training or practice prior to the flight test depends on the pilots currency and ability. Click here for aircraft rental rates. $30 fee.

With a pilot who is current and proficient the above will take 2-3 days.


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Instrument Rating

To obtain a Canadian Instrument Rating, the following requirement must be met:

An applicant wishing to obtain an Instrument Rating, to be endorsed on the CPL-A, must meet the knowledge and skill requirements set out in the CARs by successfully completing the written examination (INRAT), and successfully completing a flight test.
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division XIV, Section 421.46)
INRAT written exam cost $35 to write, study guides and books are about $150, ground school [optional] cost about $400, the best option is online ground school .

Flight test cost $200 + the airplane rental. The amount of training or practice prior to the flight test depends on the pilots currency and ability. Click here for aircraft rental rates. $30 fee.

With a pilot who is current and proficient the above will take 1 week.


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Flight Instructor rating

There is no conversion for a flight instructor rating. To convert, the entire flight instructor course must be completed.


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Airline Transport Pilot Licence

To obtain a Canadian (ATPL-A), the following requirements must be met:
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VIII, Section 421.34)

1. Complete the medical examination requirements in accordance with the Medical Standards for Civil Aviation Personnel Licensing and be in possession of a Category 1 Medical Certificate. Cost about $100, for a listing of doctors go to: http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/cam/CamSearch.asp

2. Proof that the experience requirement is met.
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VIII, Section 421.34, Para (4)).
An applicant should be able to provide Transport Canada with a log book of their flight experience for review.

3. Meet the knowledge requirements by successfully completing the following written examinations: SAMRA, SARON and INRAT.(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VIII, Section 421.34, Para (3)).Exam cost $105 to write (total of $315), study guides and books are about $200, ground school [optional] cost about $400.

4. Meet the skill requirement by successfully completing a Flight Test.
(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VIII, Section 421.34, Para (5)).
An applicant for an ATPL-A shall successfully complete a flight test in a multi-engine aeroplane (excluding centre-line thrust) which is suitably equipped for IFR flight in controlled airspace. Flight test cost $200 + the airplane rental. The amount of training or practice prior to the flight test depends on the pilots currency and ability. Click here for aircraft rental rates.

5. Complete the standard administrative requirements such as submitting proof of foreign citizenship and age, provide the foreign licence and log book for evaluation, submit a licence application form and pay the appropriate fee. $105 fee.

With a pilot who is current and proficient the above will take 1 week.

For people wishing to immigrate or work in Canada, contact Citizenship and Immigration Canada.

Scottie
7th Apr 2004, 19:50
Hey thanks for the information! :ok:

Tis enough to keep me going!!!

Think I may bash the circuit at YHZ if I can. :}

kishna
8th Apr 2004, 08:29
3. Meet the knowledge requirements by successfully completing the following written examinations: SAMRA, SARON and INRAT.(CARs - Part IV, Subpart 1, Division VIII, Section 421.34, Para (3)).Exam cost $105 to write (total of $315), study guides and books are about $200, ground school [optional] cost about $400.

Excuse the ignorance, but what are SAMRA, SARON & INRAT?

k

Latte tester
9th Apr 2004, 02:56
SARON, SAMRA and INRAT are three horrible exams that once written and passed are great...it's the studying that's the killer.
There are courses available that will 'spoon feed' you the information, with a big spoon, and at a cost.
By the way, SARON, SAMRA and INRAT cover such topics as Rules of the Air, Navigation, and Instrument procedures.
Have a look into some of the previous replies and links for further info. :ok: