EFP058
16th Jan 2004, 01:54
Question to the heavy-metal drivers here: What would you do if you are sitting on the numbers, ready to set TOGA thrust and then a little bird lands approximately 150 ft. in front of you and sits on the runway. Push the throttles forward or wait until the bird leaves the runway?
The reason why Iīm asking is this: There was a documentary on german tv last night. Basically they showed a Lufthansa 737-300 crew during their three-day trip around Europe, and what it is like to fly shorthaul. While the pictures itself were pretty nice, the commentary was not. Sometimes it was downright false, and often just plain funny. I guess itīs necessary to dumb things down to make it interesting for the unwashed masses, but for people in the know it was sometimes actually painful to listen to the narrator.
So up came the scene with the machine sitting on the runway of some european airport (I believe it was Geneva, but thatīs not really important in this context I guess), ready for departure. They showed a little bird sitting on the runway, approximately 150ft in front of the machine, and the narrator said something along the lines of "the crew waits for the bird to leave before they start their takeoff run", and then a cut was made. Therefore I canīt really tell whether they really did depart once the bird was gone or not, in fact I donīt even know if they had takeoff clearance at this point or if they were just cleared to line up.
So anyway, this scene is grounds for discussion among a group of friends of mine, especially considering some of the wrong information the narrator gave before this particular scene. Basically, one group is saying "thatīs total BS, once the engines were brought up to TOGA power the bird would have left anyway", while the other group says "they did indeed wait for the bird to leave, as to avoid an ingestion of the bird", suggesting that once the throttle was pushed forward, the little bird would have been sucked in.
So can you clue me in on who would be right in this case? What would you do if you are sitting on the runway, ready to go, and a bird settles down 150ft in front of you? Would you wait and let ATC (and the aircraft behind you on short final) get mad at you, or would you start the takeoff roll anyway, hoping for the bird to get the clue and haul a$$?
The reason why Iīm asking is this: There was a documentary on german tv last night. Basically they showed a Lufthansa 737-300 crew during their three-day trip around Europe, and what it is like to fly shorthaul. While the pictures itself were pretty nice, the commentary was not. Sometimes it was downright false, and often just plain funny. I guess itīs necessary to dumb things down to make it interesting for the unwashed masses, but for people in the know it was sometimes actually painful to listen to the narrator.
So up came the scene with the machine sitting on the runway of some european airport (I believe it was Geneva, but thatīs not really important in this context I guess), ready for departure. They showed a little bird sitting on the runway, approximately 150ft in front of the machine, and the narrator said something along the lines of "the crew waits for the bird to leave before they start their takeoff run", and then a cut was made. Therefore I canīt really tell whether they really did depart once the bird was gone or not, in fact I donīt even know if they had takeoff clearance at this point or if they were just cleared to line up.
So anyway, this scene is grounds for discussion among a group of friends of mine, especially considering some of the wrong information the narrator gave before this particular scene. Basically, one group is saying "thatīs total BS, once the engines were brought up to TOGA power the bird would have left anyway", while the other group says "they did indeed wait for the bird to leave, as to avoid an ingestion of the bird", suggesting that once the throttle was pushed forward, the little bird would have been sucked in.
So can you clue me in on who would be right in this case? What would you do if you are sitting on the runway, ready to go, and a bird settles down 150ft in front of you? Would you wait and let ATC (and the aircraft behind you on short final) get mad at you, or would you start the takeoff roll anyway, hoping for the bird to get the clue and haul a$$?