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Old 14th Aug 2017, 16:32
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Are Jet2 doing their own handling at BHX? They certainly brought a lot of their own branded kit when they moved in. I was wondering if they are, how they are doing with staff retention as the other agent seems to be having the same problems that Aviator had.
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Passenger figures for July show that BirminghamAirport has seen its busiest month on record.
Over 1.4 million people travelledthrough the terminal – giving a 17.6% growth rate year on year.
In total 1,437,528 passengers flewthrough Birmingham – over 215,000 more than the same month in 2016.
Short haul traffic saw the mostsignificant rate of growth with an increase of 19.3% year on year whereas longhaul services saw a 3.3% increase.
Jo Lloyd, Commercial Director atBirmingham Airport, said: “Everymonth we are seeing significant passenger growth and July is no exception beingin the peak of the school summer holiday season.
“This has given us our twenty ninthconsecutive month of record breaking growth and our forth million passengermonth this year.”
Scheduled traffic accounted for 89 percent of the total, with charter passengers making up the remaining eleven percent.
Scheduled traffic overall grew by 20.5per cent, with significant year-on-year growth to Sofia (+225.8%), Ibiza(+132.3%), Rhodes (+112.3%), Paphos (+81%), Bucharest (+74.1%) and Faro (+72%).
Charter traffic saw expansion onservices to Montego Bay (+298.6%), Punta Cana (+79.9%), Malaga (+75.5%) andAntalya (+53.7%).
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Originally Posted by tubby linton
Are Jet2 doing their own handling at BHX? They certainly brought a lot of their own branded kit when they moved in. I was wondering if they are, how they are doing with staff retention as the other agent seems to be having the same problems that Aviator had.
All airside handling done by Swissport.
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In my experience of (only) two flights the Jet2 check-in/boarding staff at BHX are really motivated and cheerful-unlike some others...
And I would say the same of their FA's
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Will certainly chose to fly with them next year,as against FR
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Eurowings showing new A319 flights to Berlin-Tegel in Dec 17 and Jan 18 on Fri and Sun only. Looks like just a Christmas Market run for now
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i had to collect the outlaws last Friday pm so after they had landed i took a steady drive and pulled in 30 min free stay. when they rang to say they were out i got myŁ1 coin ready to pay at drop of hmm it is Ł2 now so it actually costs more than before bit of a con as the old folk would not make it walking up to 30 minute free park.
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Next time tell them to take the Air-Rail link to the station and pick them up there. Same with drop off. No hassle.
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Swissport

I was on last Friday's LH953 to FRA with a scheduled pushback of 08:50. The inbound was on time yet, as usual, the ground handling people seem incapable of turning round a plane in the allotted time.

We started boarding as soon as the cleaners were finished at 08:37 and passengers were still coming on board at pushback time. The captain then announced that we had missed our slot because the ground handlers had failed to provide a tug in time. As a result we did not push back until 09:44, a delay of 54 minutes.

Before anyone flames me and says that ground handlers are wonderful, hard working people, I know that many of them are. However, Swissport seem to be taking a couldn't care less attitude due to their monopoly and not only were passengers on my flight inconvenienced (missed connections etc) but many others were as well. The same aircraft operated the 954 and 955 to and from BHX resulting in a 3hr 35min delay in departure of the 955.
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BobBHX, I have had a number of frustrating issues with Swissport handling at BHX in the past 6 months. They are certainly NOT a model of efficiency, that's for sure. I'm also quite sure that the staff do their best and are not to blame. Comes down to the usual managerial cost cutting and the consequent lack of resources.
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Old 21st Aug 2017, 12:31
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The same aircraft operated the 954 and 955 to and from BHX resulting in a 3hr 35min delay in departure of the 955.
My maths suggest to me that BHX isn't the only airport suffering delays from congestion, inefficiency or whatever else since the aircraft had picked up nearly 3 hours extra delays during the day.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
My maths suggest to me that BHX isn't the only airport suffering delays from congestion, inefficiency or whatever else since the aircraft had picked up nearly 3 hours extra delays during the day.
Actually, looking at the stats on FR24, it was BHX that caused most of the additional delays (admittedly, I have no idea of the reason for the delay to LH955 although there was some heavy rain in FRA late afternoon on Friday which may have caused delays). Note that the FR24 times are takeoff and touchdown times, not block times.

The flight I was on (953) landed on 25R at 12:09. That was followed by the usual 15 min taxi via Oz, Narnia and all points East, to the remote stand to the east of T2. It arrived on stand at 12:24 and took off again at 13:36, arriving into BHX at 13:54. For some reason it then sat around for 3hrs 11mins before leaving on the (very delayed) 955 at 17:05 instead of 13:30.

Clearly a delay of that magnitude cannot be totally (or perhaps even at all) down to ground handling but my basic issues about slow turnarounds and poor attitude of Swissport remain.
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Friday's afternoon delays

Originally Posted by BobBHX
Actually, looking at the stats on FR24, it was BHX that caused most of the additional delays (admittedly, I have no idea of the reason for the delay to LH955 although there was some heavy rain in FRA late afternoon on Friday which may have caused delays). Note that the FR24 times are takeoff and touchdown times, not block times.

The flight I was on (953) landed on 25R at 12:09. That was followed by the usual 15 min taxi via Oz, Narnia and all points East, to the remote stand to the east of T2. It arrived on stand at 12:24 and took off again at 13:36, arriving into BHX at 13:54. For some reason it then sat around for 3hrs 11mins before leaving on the (very delayed) 955 at 17:05 instead of 13:30.

Clearly a delay of that magnitude cannot be totally (or perhaps even at all) down to ground handling but my basic issues about slow turnarounds and poor attitude of Swissport remain.
Not ground handling. I boarded a plane to Crete well in time for the scheduled departure at 1430. The captain then informed passengers that southbound flights from Birmingham were suspended due to adverse weather causing ATC delays in the south. Flights started to leave around 1545 but with a long queue - we were 17th in the queue at one point - we did not get away until around 1610. Flightstats shows delays to almost every flight around that time. Captain also suggested there had been some inbound diversions that were originally heading for Manchester.
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Originally Posted by BHX2FRA
Not ground handling. I boarded a plane to Crete well in time for the scheduled departure at 1430. The captain then informed passengers that southbound flights from Birmingham were suspended due to adverse weather causing ATC delays in the south. Flights started to leave around 1545 but with a long queue - we were 17th in the queue at one point - we did not get away until around 1610. Flightstats shows delays to almost every flight around that time. Captain also suggested there had been some inbound diversions that were originally heading for Manchester.
Thanks for the info. I suspected it had to be weather. However, if Swissport had bothered to send a tug in time for the LH953 then the 955 could have got out of BHX at its scheduled time of 13:30.
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July 2017, Ryanair, Wizz, Flybe & Brussels Airlines

July STATS out as expected some very big increases with the odd disappointing ones such as Qatar which was down as expected due to fewer flights but still averaged just under 200 per flight.

On the bright side Turkish was up 4% on fewer flights, Emirates was up 8% at 70117 but only 76260 seats available in July 18.

Air India was up significantly as well.

Ryanair

All summer 2017 routes have been released for summer 18 at a very similar frequency.

Wizz - All 6 routes now released for summer 18 and again similar frequency to 2017.

Flybe - winter 17/18 has been updated and certainly greater aircraft utilisation with 10 based which is quite a few less than this summer. The strangest change is the DUS which has a first outbound operated by the inbound DUS based aircraft but summer 18 it reverts back to BHX based and on a jet.

Brussels Airlines As scheduled the 319 is now a regular on at least two of the four weekday flights.

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R$eply to Olton Pete

Originally Posted by OltonPete
July STATS out as expected some very big increases with the odd disappointing ones such as Qatar which was down as expected due to fewer flights but still averaged just under 200 per flight.

On the bright side Turkish was up 4% on fewer flights, Emirates was up 8% at 70117 but only 76260 seats available in July 18.

Air India was up significantly as well.

Ryanair

All summer 2017 routes have been released for summer 18 at a very similar frequency.

Wizz - All 6 routes now released for summer 18 and again similar frequency to 2017.

Flybe - winter 17/18 has been updated and certainly greater aircraft utilisation with 10 based which is quite a few less than this summer. The strangest change is the DUS which has a first outbound operated by the inbound DUS based aircraft but summer 18 it reverts back to BHX based and on a jet.

Brussels Airlines As scheduled the 319 is now a regular on at least two of the four weekday flights.

Pete
Brussels passenger figures have steadily increased over the last six months or so, is there a long term change in traffic usage happening ? - I've not looked at the figures yet .

Welcome back by the way.

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Brussels down 8% in July !

One of only a few negative routes

DUBLIN 73,731 up 3.082795 %
DUBAI 70,117 up 8.389241 %
PALMA DE MALLORCA 68,990 up 12.86154 %
AMSTERDAM 60,391 up 6.254838 %
MALAGA 59,714 up 33.76792 %
ALICANTE 54,401 up 42.30296 %
FARO 44,214 up 58.67217 %
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA) 40,959 up 10.88281 %
BARCELONA 37,077 up 4.710667 %
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 33,898 down -1.11435 %
IBIZA 30,805 up 55.52582 %
FRANKFURT MAIN 28,080 down -9.44857 %
ARRECIFE 27,699 up 38.64751 %
DALAMAN 25,636 up 22.44352 %
DUSSELDORF 23,459 up 18.29459 %
LAS PALMAS 21,499 up 30.00544 %
LARNACA 20,797 up 24.92191 %
MUNICH 18,703 up 2.504659 %
FUERTEVENTURA 18,353 up 28.82915 %
MAHON 16,374 up 33.18692 %
PAPHOS 15,386 up 37.10569 %
MADRID 15,032 down -16.863 %
HERAKLION 14,544 up 31.20433 %
ISTANBUL 14,044 up 4.083599 %
RHODES 13,130 up 40.66852 %
CORFU 12,685 down -5.23682 %
ZAKINTHOS 12,263 down -13.458 %
DOHA HAMAD 12,263 down -17.4042 %
GIRONA 12,119 up 211.0626 %
BRUSSELS 11,561 down -7.91716 %
ROME (FIUMICINO) 10,458 up 9.726157 %
ANTALYA 9,729 up 24.95505 %
REUS 9,650 up 175.7931 %
MILAN (MALPENSA) 9,493 up 1.768868 %
SOFIA 9,323 up 225.7512 %
ZURICH 8,711 up 8.184302 %
MALTA 8,509 up 42.1246 %
DUBROVNIK 8,388 up 33.18514 %
NEW YORK (NEWARK) 8,096 up 5.567871 %
PARIS (ORLY) 7,834 n/a 0 %
PRAGUE 7,704 up 41.17647 %
BERLIN (TEGEL) 7,647 up 8.283772 %
VENICE 7,644 down -10.3448 %
BURGAS 7,540 up 12.67185 %
NAPLES 7,214 up 101.4521 %
KOS 7,169 down -2.34301 %
CORK 6,995 down -2.37265 %
STUTTGART 6,978 down -11.8494 %
VERONA VILLAFRANCA 6,913 down -2.93457 %
DELHI 6,781 up 5.409607 %
OPORTO (PORTUGAL) 6,771 n/a 0 %
KEFALLINIA 6,635 up 11.04603 %
MURCIA SAN JAVIER 6,343 up 4.808328 %
COPENHAGEN 6,169 up 2.902419 %
ISLAMABAD 6,163 down -19.5116 %
AMRITSAR 6,109 up 34.88629 %
LISBON 5,848 up 14.5095 %
FUNCHAL 5,412 up 18.16594 %
PUNTA CANA 5,349 up 79.91927 %
GIBRALTAR 5,266 up 15.28021 %
CANCUN 5,219 up 61.52894 %
WARSAW (CHOPIN) 4,928 up 16.11687 %
LYON 4,701 up 1.183814 %
BUDAPEST 4,638 up 8.288583 %
BYDGOSZCZ 4,606 up 0.589648 %
BRATISLAVA 4,577 up 0.92613 %
VIENNA 4,515 n/a 0 %
WARSAW (MODLIN MASOVIA) 4,457 n/a 0 %
BUCHAREST (OTOPENI) 4,394 up 51.93638 %
CHANIA 4,265 up 209.2821 %
STOCKHOLM (ARLANDA) 4,256 n/a 0 %
TOULOUSE (BLAGNAC) 4,119 n/a 0 %
BORDEAUX 4,058 down -0.12306 %
IRELAND WEST(KNOCK) 3,686 up 28.43206 %
SHANNON 3,583 up 18.87857 %
HANOVER 3,512 down -6.8435 %
SKIATHOS 3,426 down -0.63805 %
ASHKHABAD 3,423 up 34.18267 %
ALMERIA 3,408 up 2.311618 %
NICE 3,322 down -38.3788 %
KRAKOW 3,276 up 2.792595 %
GDANSK 3,228 up 1.286476 %
KATOWICE 3,211 up 0.532248 %
PULA 3,116 up 1.135995 %
BERGERAC 3,100 down -15.6463 %
SPLIT 3,065 n/a 0 %
PERPIGNAN 2,987 up 8.697234 %
WROCLAW 2,965 up 2.879944 %
VALENCIA 2,946 n/a 0 %
MONTEGO BAY 2,942 up 412.5436 %
POZNAN 2,882 down -5.44619 %
ATHENS 2,799 down -5.08647 %
NANTES 2,731 up 5.038462 %
PREVEZA 2,563 up 45.0481 %
KEFLAVIK 2,538 down -30.5229 %
TORONTO 2,412 down -0.61805 %
THIRA (SANTORINI) 2,356 down -13.6047 %
SANFORD 2,307 down -12.6136 %
HURGHADA 2,133 up 12.9767 %
MYTILINI 2,094 n/a 0 %
LUXEMBOURG 2,072 n/a 0 %
PORTO SANTO 2,007 up 18.82771 %
ALGHERO (FERTILIA) 1,825 n/a 0 %
IZMIR (ADNAN MENDERES) 1,735 down -11.1168 %
KALAMATA 1,724 up 5.572566 %
CATANIA (FONTANAROSSA) 1,719 down -6.67752 %
ILHA DO SAL C.VERDE 1,716 down -1.15207 %
BOA VISTA (RABIL) 1,701 down -1.5625 %
KAVALA 1,676 down -10.1822 %
MARRAKESH 1,657 down -23.2515 %
SALZBURG 1,650 down -2.65487 %
GOTEBORG (LANDVETTER) 1,650 n/a 0 %
RENNES 1,591 down -5.18474 %
HAMBURG 1,588 down -48.7246 %
BIARRITZ 1,568 up 0.900901 %
LIMOGES 1,560 up 46.75447 %
COMISO 1,331 n/a 0 %
LA ROCHELLE 1,207 down -29.8256 %
BODRUM (MILAS) 1,200 down -56.9584 %
AVIGNON 1,149 down -3.44538 %
GRAZ 1,093 up 359.2437 %
NUREMBERG 1,093 n/a 0 %
INNSBRUCK 797 down -10.5499 %
FLORENCE 659 n/a 0 %
BASTIA 648 down -3.13901 %
BREST 516 down -67.8505 %
BERGAMO 211 n/a 0 %
BOLOGNA 175 down -45.9877 %
CONSTANTA 167 n/a 0 %
GENEVA 149 up 231.1111 %
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN 48 n/a 0 %
ZELTWEG (MILITARY) 44 n/a 0 %
COLOGNE BONN 41 n/a 0 %
BREMEN 3 n/a 0 %
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July

Hi CATIII-NDB

I was not consciously keeping away although I was on hols the first week of August but just little information of use to impart although there are a few rumours around but nothing major in the short-term.

I forgot to post "my" full BHX experience, which was very different this year going out with little time in the terminal after all the queuing but caught a lucky period on the way back with Monarch getting an airbridge attached in the blink of an eye and bags within 35 minutes and the only downside the e-gates which were troublesome for some of us.

Anyway enough of that and back to Brussels. I have seen postings on another forum stating that the LH group carefully monitor traffic through their various hubs in terms of fares offered through third parties and Brussels was a beneficiary. Whether there is any substance to this I don't know.

The reason for the 2017 drop was simply down to fewer rotations this year, 190 compared to 198 if I have my figures correct. 2017 averaged 61 per flight at 79% which also saw around 40 rotations by the 49 seat E145.

For 2016 I had 63 per flight at 73% but that was all 95 seat RJ100's and a few 78 seat DH8D's. Also The SU95 only holds 87 per the seat-map found so again a small capacity drop if true.

Today is a good example of the constant changes the LH group do with the 319 due on SN2047 and 2049 considerably more seats than last year but LH952, LH954 and 956 Frankfurt as 319's. Even on a Sunday that would have been rare in a September's past although Munich is now all Airbus compared to the Embraer last year (Although some scheduled for winter).

There also seems to be some movement with Swiss via the Zurich hub with several 319's and 320's scheduled over the next few months including Edelweiss.

I have to say for Aviation interest alone LH have been fantastic for BHX.

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Brussels has always been a very profiable route from BHX with fares high.
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Brussels has always been a very profiable route from BHX with fares high.
Only a select few people within an airline know how profitable/un-profitable a route is. People who post on forums do not.
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I have no idea if the BRU route is profitable or not but the fares certainly increased substantially the past years. So much so that a couple of years ago I switched from Brussels Airlines to Eurowings for my regular trips to Brum. (Living half way between BRU and DUS, both airports are an option for me).
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