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Old 10th Feb 2012, 08:15   #381 (permalink)
 
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"Maybe to avoid confusion he should have said "routes within the British Isles" although, IIRC this has also upset a poster in the past, despite this being a recognised geo-political reference to the islands of Great Britain and Ireland"

This always gets me. I have a mate who dislikes 'British Isles' as a term. However 'British' actually predates all the current geo-political entities we know. The population of the isles were called Pretani over 2000 years ago, (Noted on several Greek maps) this word morphed into Bretani sometime post-Roman Empire. The native Britons were displaced by the Angles, Gaels, Saxons, Danes from the 6th to 11th century. (As were the Picts) So in fact the only remaining 'British' regions of the Isles are Wales and Cornwall. What is now Strathclyde was the last remaining kingdom of the Britons up until the 10th century.

Incidently Scotland is called that after the Scotti displaced the native Britons and Picts. The Scotti were the Gaelic Irish from the Kingdom of Dalriada (NE Irish coast)
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 13:49   #382 (permalink)
 
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Greetings from Cork.

NOT on a "British" isle.

Clear ?
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 13:54   #383 (permalink)
 
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I think it's clear that Irish people (myself included) find the term "British Isles" offensive it can be inferred that it refers to some form of ownership. For that reason its a term best avoided, which the BBC even now do referring to the islands of Britain and Ireland as "these islands", I don't personally think this term is great either, but using it ensures no possible animosity.
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 14:10   #384 (permalink)
 
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Correct.

I first used that term "these Islands" as a 17 year old interviewee for an airline job.

Could this be the start of a consensus on this issue ?
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 14:36   #385 (permalink)
 
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So we can have South America renamed in case anyone thinks it's an American colony? Greetings from London, less "British" than Cork nowadays. I have never heard the term "these islands" in my life, bit I will look out. Honestly, no one on this side thinks Ireland ought to be British, and we love you all more than you dare admit......
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 14:49   #386 (permalink)
 
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So we can have South America renamed in case anyone thinks it's an American colony? Greetings from London, less "British" than Cork nowadays. I have never heard the term "these islands" in my life, bit I will look out. Honestly, no one on this side thinks Ireland ought to be British, and we love you all more than you dare admit......
So very very true. Originally from Ireland, it does not bother me in the slightest the use of ''British Isles'' and I know it is NOT referring to any individule country as being owned by Great Britain just a geographical area... Come on now guys we are the closest country friends with each other... just make sure on the next Eurovision we both give each other the usual 12points

Anyway shall we go back to Aer Lingus
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 15:05   #387 (permalink)
 
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Maybe to avoid confusion he should have said "routes within the British Isles" although, IIRC this has also upset a poster in the past, despite this being a recognised geo-political reference to the islands of Great Britain and Ireland.
Its not recognised in Ireland, where the term has been removed from the education system and is not used by the Irish government.

Ireland is not part of any 'British Isles' (regardless of what wikipedia says)which itself is an antiquated and outdated term that predates Irish independence and as such does not reflect the current political situation. If you want to refer to the 2 islands, just say 'Britain & Ireland', simples...

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So very very true. Originally from Ireland, it does not bother me in the slightest the use of ''British Isles'' and I know it is NOT referring to any individule country as being owned by Great Britain just a geographical area...
Well as someone actually living in Ireland, I can say most people do find it offensive.
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 16:18   #388 (permalink)
 
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Well as someone actually living in Ireland, I can say most people do find it offensive.
Get over it. It won't do any good taking offence from it....

Sorry if it's been mentioned before but, as for Aer Lingus and the A319s. Are these aircraft still due to only operate from the end of the summer schedule W12/13?
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 16:35   #389 (permalink)
 
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Get over it. It won't do any good taking offence from it....
Or how about you just stop using it?
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 16:39   #390 (permalink)
 
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In fact, better yet, I hereby declare on behalf of the Irish nation that the islands of Britain & Ireland are now known as 'the Irish Isles'.

And if the Brits take offense to it, well as Cazza_fly says, they can "get over it".

Now... I believe we were discussing flights operated by Aer Lingus within the Irish Isles?
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 16:41   #391 (permalink)
 
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In fact, better yet, I hereby declare on behalf of the Irish nation that the islands of Britain & Ireland are now known as 'the Irish Isles'.
Doesn't bother me none

Im sure most Brits would laugh it off anyway...

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Now... I believe we were discussing flights operated by Aer Lingus within the Irish Isles?
and yep... back to the discussion
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 17:20   #392 (permalink)
 
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Lord be.... By the sounds of it you guy's should live in Northern Ireland!!!

So anyway... With the A319 basing at BFS, do you think that maybe routes like Rome, and dare I say Munich return for winter 12/13?? Would the slightly smaller aircraft makes these routes, or others, viable rather than the usual plethora of bucket and spade destinations??
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Old 11th Feb 2012, 15:05   #393 (permalink)
 
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was looking through some old files and found some photos of when I worked at JFK for Aer Lingus as PAX agent a few years back. Thought I'd share them and also a pic of EI-ORD dismantled. EI ORD scrapped. V Sad Day | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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Old 11th Feb 2012, 16:25   #394 (permalink)
 
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Wow I feel old, I remember EI-ORD when she was delivered. Where is this photo taken?
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I remember it on the production line in Toulouse ! Yikes
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Old 11th Feb 2012, 23:55   #396 (permalink)
 
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Rumours floating around that Aer Lingus are to move their European flights back in to T1. Anyone care to divulge some info?
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 00:06   #397 (permalink)
 
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Then why keep T2 open?

Would find it hard to believe that they would do it.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 00:26   #398 (permalink)
 
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EI

Why bother building in the 1st place is a better question.....
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 00:49   #399 (permalink)
 
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Becasue it was needed but it could of being built a lot cheeper and better designed. Have heard nothing about moving back to T1 but it could just be more flights from Pier B.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 10:11   #400 (permalink)
 
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After moving most of their operations to T2, and the fact they're now using CBP in T2, they won't be moving back to T1. Maybe some flight will move to Pier B to relieve early morning congestion, as T2 is effectively a cul de sac which causes delays.
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