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Cross rail. Yes there were problems,but now it is nearly complete.One day it will perhaps connect you to the great eastern airport from your rural retreat? Infrastructure never gets any cheaper.
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What is the Uxbridge effect?
Accessibility will sort itself out,as will the airline slot system.If you build it,they will come.
It is clearly not the case, otherwise the concept of closing Heathrow would never have surfaced. It is patently obvious that pax, premium pax in particular, want to use LHR, and therefore so do the carriers.
If you call it "Heathrow East" most customers won't notice the difference.
The reference to broadcasts from London simply refers to the background aircraft noise,not the whining of politicians.
It is not that bad now (ask any flightpath resident who is old enough to remember the really noisy jets of the 1960s/1970s) and certainly won't be by the time any new rwy opens.
Heathrow East/West?
From the Heathrow publication " Taking Britain Further".
Heathrow East will be what old folk called the CTA, Term's 1,2,& 3. Heathrow West will be an enlarged & extended T5 westwards engulfing the north/south road from Staines to Uxbridge, used by non M25 traffic, and as a major freight & airport services road. Term 4 exists on the plan, but is not named on the "refreshed plan"
Heathrow East will be what old folk called the CTA, Term's 1,2,& 3. Heathrow West will be an enlarged & extended T5 westwards engulfing the north/south road from Staines to Uxbridge, used by non M25 traffic, and as a major freight & airport services road. Term 4 exists on the plan, but is not named on the "refreshed plan"
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Cross rail. Yes there were problems, but now it is nearly complete.
The concept of large-diameter railway tunnels crossing central London to connect Paddington and Liverpool Street main-line stations was proposed by railwayman George Dow in the London newspaper The Star in June 1941.
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It is due to begin full operation in 2018
One day it will perhaps connect you to the great eastern airport from your rural retreat?
Infrastructure never gets any cheaper.
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Heathrow East/West?
From the Heathrow publication " Taking Britain Further".
Heathrow East will be what old folk called the CTA, Term's 1,2,& 3. Heathrow West will be an enlarged & extended T5 westwards engulfing the north/south road from Staines to Uxbridge, used by non M25 traffic, and as a major freight & airport services road.
From the Heathrow publication " Taking Britain Further".
Heathrow East will be what old folk called the CTA, Term's 1,2,& 3. Heathrow West will be an enlarged & extended T5 westwards engulfing the north/south road from Staines to Uxbridge, used by non M25 traffic, and as a major freight & airport services road.
dash6 stated: "You have only to listen to any broadcast from Central London to realise why Heathrow should close,apart from all the congestion and lack of space for expansion. Why not "Boris Island" Aligned 23/05 with at least 6 runways with transport links north and South along a barrier across the estuary opening up East Kent and Essex and generating tidal power for the airport? Think big!"
and later: "If you build it,they will come. If you call it "Heathrow East" most customers won't notice the difference."
Not sure that it was a reference to the central terminal area of Heathrow.
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Heathrow East/West?
From the Heathrow publication " Taking Britain Further".
Heathrow East will be what old folk called the CTA, Term's 1,2,& 3. Heathrow West will be an enlarged & extended T5 westwards engulfing the north/south road from Staines to Uxbridge, used by non M25 traffic, and as a major freight & airport services road.
From the Heathrow publication " Taking Britain Further".
Heathrow East will be what old folk called the CTA, Term's 1,2,& 3. Heathrow West will be an enlarged & extended T5 westwards engulfing the north/south road from Staines to Uxbridge, used by non M25 traffic, and as a major freight & airport services road.
and later: "If you build it,they will come. If you call it "Heathrow East" most customers won't notice the difference."
Not sure that it was a reference to the central terminal area of Heathrow.
Not sure that it was a reference to the central terminal area of Heathrow.
Well BAA seem to be using "East" as their EAST, renaming terminals in the CTA, and renaming and expanding T5 as WEST (with further expansion). Maybe they have taken the copyright as well. Will T4 become the "freight" terminal?
renaming terminals in the CTA
T2A + satellites
T5A + satellites
T6A (which also has a satellite, but that's not part of the toast rack)
I do not wish to post the link "Taking Britain Further" (it may go wrong) but it is readily available thru' many search engines. The diagram on page 25 shows Heathrow EAST & WEST. On page 51 item 8 on the page, is described as "two main passenger terminal and public transport areas". You may note that T5 extends further west to engulf the north south road.
This is what I rely on in describing East & West.
This is what I rely on in describing East & West.
You may note that T5 extends further west to engulf the north south road.
The building shown to its west (beyond the MSCP) is T6. Together, they would collectively be known as "Heathrow West" (also referred to in various Heathrow documents as the "Western Front Door" and "Western Campus").
Similarly T2 and, for the time being, T3 are collectively referred to as "Heathrow East", "Eastern Front Door" and "Eastern Campus".
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If T6 is built west of the MSCP of T5, and then they both become Heathrow West, so it is not an extension? T6 was originally North of the airport with the 3rd runway.
The A304 will be moved for the comfort of this "extension" as it is on the plan, together with the disappearance of the A4 Bath Road. None of the consultants at the local briefing could explain about the movement of these roads.
Neither could they explain fully the ability of all aircraft to "touch down further along the runways to reduce noise"
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If T6 is built west of the MSCP of T5, and then they both become Heathrow West, so it is not an extension? T6 was originally North of the airport with the 3rd runway.
The A304 will be moved for the comfort of this "extension" as it is on the plan, together with the disappearance of the A4 Bath Road. None of the consultants at the local briefing could explain about the movement of these roads.
Neither could they explain fully the ability of all aircraft to "touch down further along the runways to reduce noise"
T09L
If T6 is built west of the MSCP of T5, and then they both become Heathrow West, so it is not an extension?
T6 was originally North of the airport with the 3rd runway.
The A304 will be moved for the comfort of this "extension" as it is on the plan, together with the disappearance of the A4 Bath Road. None of the consultants at the local briefing could explain about the movement of these roads.
It's not altogether surprising that they are being coy about publicising that.
Re the A3044/Stanwell Moor Road, that's replaced by a link road west of the M25 from the aforesaid roundabout to the J14 roundabout, then via Airport Way to rejoin its original route.
Neither could they explain fully the ability of all aircraft to "touch down further along the runways to reduce noise"
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Maybe a sign that Heathrow is getting desperate when they are seen be paying various Chambers Of Commerce to in effect support them.
Ironically the list of supporting members is not in the regions where the routes are really required !
The Manchester Evening News refers
Ironically the list of supporting members is not in the regions where the routes are really required !
The Manchester Evening News refers
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Accessibility will sort itself out,as will the airline slot system.If you build it,they will come.
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Yes, the original 2009 proposal for a shorter northern R3 of 2200m showed a T6 sitting slap on top of the M4 spur.
The latest plan I've seen does indeed appear to suggest the A4 Colnbrook Bypass being interrupted by R3 and T6B and the A4 re-routed along the original Bath Road route (through Colnbrook and Poyle) to a roundabout just west of the M25 (by the golf range), then tunnelling under the airport to resurface and join the original A4 at the Hatch Lane junction.
That features in a number of Heathrow's recent presentation documents, which talk about displaced thresholds of around 700m on the current runways. That would result in aircraft being about 120ft higher at any point on the approach, which would have a fairly minimal effect on noise.
There have indeed been a number of different versions of the NW runway proposal since it was moved south from its original line. Your guess is as good as mine as to which is the most recent.
Other differences between the TBF version and the one I'm looking at include the presence or absence of the "Commercial Zone" between the runways, ditto the fuel farm between T5 and the CTA, and the size and positioning of T6A and its satellite(s).
Other differences between the TBF version and the one I'm looking at include the presence or absence of the "Commercial Zone" between the runways, ditto the fuel farm between T5 and the CTA, and the size and positioning of T6A and its satellite(s).
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Interview: Daniel Moylan – “Boris will never surrender his vision of building a great new airport east of London” | Conservative Home
BoJo's mini me clone is banging the drum for his master again.....
BoJo's mini me clone is banging the drum for his master again.....