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Old 15th Feb 2017, 08:57   #41 (permalink)
 
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Go to another post I wrote. Naija pilots can't really go anywhere else. RwandAir has hired a few. They've had problems with a few as well. They think they're extremely clever...
Do not generalize. Nigerian pilots fly in airlines around the world. Had Nigerian colleagues flying in the UK, the US, Middle East and other parts of Africa.
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 14:27   #42 (permalink)
 
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You're correct, a Nigerian passport and license are a ticket to easy, global travel and aviation success....dude really????
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Do not generalize. Nigerian pilots fly in airlines around the world. Had Nigerian colleagues flying in the UK, the US, Middle East and other parts of Africa.
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 15:15   #43 (permalink)


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When we started Arik Air, we were told that after two or three years the locals will have to take over and they did. What a mess. It is sad to see about 20 aircraft grounded... the same "picture" we saw when we started Arik; old Nigera Airways aircraft abandoned.
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 21:55   #44 (permalink)
 
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The HUGE mystery this past five years or so has always been who was stupid enough to keep bankrolling them as one crisis staggered into yet another.

Oh well....Whoever its was has now finally seen sense. There's a mantra which they seem to have finally learned the words to -

Losing money playing Poker in Las Vegas is fun....
Losing money playing Roulette in Monte Carlo is style....
Losing money playing around with Nigerian companies is inevitable....

Tough times for a couple of good friends and some other very good pilots I know who were stuck in a lose-lose situation at the cess-pit which is the AAAC of wanting to leave but couldn't afford to leave because they knew that they would never, ever, get the money owed to them.

Good Luck guys.
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 22:29   #45 (permalink)

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4runner,

I'm guessing your sarcasm comes from living/working in Nigeria, although of course this is an open forum so I may be way off base. Either way, I'm not Nigerian but I lived and worked there for 23 years and only left because I got cancer, otherwise I'd still be there and enjoying the friends I made.

Please don't "diss" an entire country just because you've had a bad experience and/or developed a jaundiced view. One of my neighbours in UK is an A380 Captain; guess what Nationality......

Tragic the guys who've lost their money won't ever get it.

NEO

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Old 16th Feb 2017, 01:38   #46 (permalink)
 
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I really like nigeria and Naijas. I'm not dissing the country or the peeps. I was sheltered, fed and given tp and tea from the people that clean the toilets at Lagos Airport after spending the night in the terminal as my "ticket" on Delta was standby and I was bumped. As with all things Naija, one has to keep ones wits and a sense of humor. Aviation or otherwise. Arik Air is a travesty. Big Ogas ruined it, along with just about everything else in the country. We all know Naijas working outside of Nigeria. They typically have at the very minimum, an FAA, Sud Afrikaan or EASA license. A Nigerian license or passport sucks. Operators have had issues with Big Oga Naija pilots who think they're clever.
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 12:13   #47 (permalink)
 
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Arik Air Suspends Flights to London and Johannesburg
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 14:51   #48 (permalink)
 
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The cynic in me suspects that they are afraid the aircraft will be impounded if they land outside of Nigeria...
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 08:09   #49 (permalink)
 
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Any truth that the slots they hold for Heathrow are valued at between 60-80 million?

It will be interesting to see where that money ends up.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 16:41   #50 (permalink)
 
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Arik Air holds slots for Heathrow because BA and Virgin have slots in LOS and ABV.
In a diplomatic agreement Arik was allocated 2 slots at LHR. Rumor says that Arik did not have to pay for the slots.. They just inherited them from Air Nigeria.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 21:10   #51 (permalink)

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On another forum it was stated that when AMCON stepped in they owed N400 billion ! I remember they used to boast in the press of an annual income circa N7bn at their peak.

Doesn't take a brainbox to work out how long paying off that debt would take, assuming they were to make the same revenue every year.

Very sad. History repeating itself unfortunately.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 14:24   #52 (permalink)
 
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I'm surprised that UK CAA is still allowing these crooks to operate into the UK.
Not only UK CAA,what about FAA in USA? None of these nerds care about pilots flying planes and not being paid from October 2016 (currently March 2017)?

Beyond believe!
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