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Old 14th Apr 2012, 18:18   #1 (permalink)


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Anyone out there who is a direct entry applicant waiting to start the process or has already started the interviewing process?
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 10:01   #2 (permalink)
 
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yeah, am waiting for the interview process to begin hopefully next month
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Old 7th May 2012, 20:44   #3 (permalink)
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Yea have been called for the aptitude on May 23 does anyone have any information on what books need to be studied to make llife easier?
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Old 14th May 2012, 10:08   #4 (permalink)
 
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hi,

just go through your form 3 and 4 stuff
Maths
• Sequences of numbers and patterns
• Closing and opening speeds (Relative Velocity)
• Fractions (largest to smallest and vice versa)
• Algebraic questions
• Quadratic questions
Physics
• Pulleys
• Balancing of weights ( see-saw)
• Mechanical reasoning (Google)
• Wheels and cogs (big wheels and small wheels, which turns faster and in which direction)
• Springs
• Electricity (voltage formula and other few stuff on electricity.)

Chemistry
• Chemical bonding
• Periodic table
• covalesence

See you there, what time have you been summoned?
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Old 14th May 2012, 14:40   #5 (permalink)
 
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woowww...Algebraic and quadratic questions, chemistry, mechanical reasoning (among others)!! Common…Are you guys applying to a PhD. in Harvard, Cambridge or MIT?

Really feel sorry for the applicants that have to study all that in order to apply to a pilot job. By the other hand, the people who have made it… you have my sincere and uttered admiration for passing the selection process!! Nevertheless, kindly note that 99% of the subjects studied will not be of much use in your career as a commercial pilot.

Sincerely believe that an IFR exam, a SIM evaluation (not need to be in a FFS, a simple computer with the Flight Simulator software will work) and a shrink test and interview will better select a candidate to a pilot job.

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Is this to get a type rating on the space shuttle or the star-ship enterprise?
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Old 14th May 2012, 16:02   #7 (permalink)
 
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i got the email as well. but i has been a LONG time since high school. do we really need to be up to date on all that stuff? considering we are all already certified AVGAS jockeys it hardly seems relevant.

just wondering where you got all your info on what is in the apptitude test?
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Old 14th May 2012, 19:47   #8 (permalink)
 
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Unfortunately, everyone who made it went through the same process. Its not as bad as you think but true, its all high school stuff and mostly non aviation related questions. The last section is all about interpreting the AH but if you've flown, its easy. All the best to everyone. Any questions/help, dont hesitate to inbox me.
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sigh, oh well...like I said, we are all already certified. If we don't get in, it's back to the wilson hustle!
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Old 15th May 2012, 10:01   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks mnask
have been summoned on the 23 may 2012, dont have any form 3 or 4 books do u have any web sites or books in paticular i could get my hands on.
such a pain!!
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Old 15th May 2012, 10:03   #11 (permalink)
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sorry did not read the question summoned at 7 45 am
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Old 15th May 2012, 18:14   #12 (permalink)
 
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Any one who got his CPL MEIR from Wilson schools who has been shortlisted? Are the guys who trained in wilson being considered?

For Chem and Physic, approach a high school teachers. Books are readily available as second hard in street of Nairobi

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Old 15th May 2012, 18:56   #13 (permalink)
 
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hey ndege-5y, yeah i do know a fair few hknw trained people who were shortlisted. they had all applied fairly early last year so they have done their fair share of waiting. when did you apply?
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Old 21st May 2012, 11:23   #14 (permalink)
 
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Hi all. I am yet to finish my all requirement for shortlist. But below information will be of help if you have been shortlisted. Its gathered from those who gone thro the whole process. But probably thy have changed this time but am not sure.

STAGE 1: APTITUDE.
What is this ‘aptitude’?


Aptitude refers to an individual’s ability to learn or perform certain skills.
Aptitude tests refer to standardized tests designed to measure an individual’s ability to develop certain skills. In this case piloting skills.
So for this stage make sure you up to scratch with:
Basic physics – pulleys,
Books to refer to:
  • The world of Physics by John Avison
  • Ordinary level Physics by AF Abbott
Ex.
Basic form 2 maths e.g. algebra,
Ex.
Basic chemistry: balance the equation. (Expect one question from this area).
Interpreting basic aircraft instruments in different attitudes. Ex.

What is the Aircraft doing?


STAGE 2: PSYCHOMETRIC.
Psychometric test is any standardized procedure for measuring sensitivity or memory or intelligence or aptitude or personality etc
Check Morrisby Profile on the web at Morrisby - Career and Educational Guidance from the Profiling Experts, they have practice questions and useful material for this stage.


STAGE 3: MEDICAL.
This is a normal class one medical examination done at the KQ medical centre. Make sure you don’t consume any alcohol at least 24hrs before due to a blood test and urine test.
On the other hand eat some nice food as a stool sample is required.



STAGE 4: PSYCHOMOTOR.
The psychomotor domain includes physical movement, coordination, and use of the motor-skill areas. Development of these skills requires practice and is measured in terms of speed, precision, distance, procedures, or techniques in execution.
The aptitude psychomotor test consists of several parts, most of which are timed individually, which is why you need to be prepared mentally to be able to jump right in.
It will test you on your reaction, memory, ability to think in 3D space, coordination etc.
There is useful info on PILAPT® Pilot Assessment and IPAS (Also for stage 1 & 2).


STAGE 5: FLIGHT.
This a flight test done on a twin engine aircraft.
On board will be an instructor on the right seat and a KQ examiner at the back monitoring the flight.
Basically it’s the Kenyan I.R test (Nairobi) either direct from Wilson to GG or TH. Expect an engine failure.
Be precise on how you fly the ILS.
Do barrel rolls on your way back to Wilson. You will definitely get the examiner’s attention. – Do Not Attempt!

STAGE 6: POSITIVE REFERENCING.
This is an oral interview.
On the panel sits two KQ captains and a HR representative.
This is a one on one interview with the panel.
This stage requires you to have knowledge on your com. Subjects. They is no guideline to what shall be asked as it depends on the panel.
Know your stuff well.
Presentation is key. Dress code is formal.
On this day you will also be required to carry some documents such as your cv. Check out our pilot CV page.
Finally,
This information was gathered from people who have gone through this process and doesn’t necessarily represent what will happen on the actual day.
This gouge aims to remove the fear of the un known and instil confidence in pilots as they attend the assessment process.


for more information check Kenya Airways - The Pride of Africa
Good luck to those attending the assessment and update us on the interview process so as to assist others in the future.

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Old 21st May 2012, 12:08   #15 (permalink)
 
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The irony of it all is that the expats recruited or rather they want to recruit do not go through this type of nonsensical hustling called "recruitment".
Recruitment of pilots already flying should be tweaked for a better hiring process, otherwise good pilots keep falling off the so called interviewing process and the airline keeps knocking "there are no suitable pilots to pick from locally, we need to hire experienced expats" line, ironically when it comes to our foreign brothers and sisters, Voila, the company magically sees the light and doesn't put them through the same BS.
We love you KQ but things got to change with this regards, stop denying able locals jobs, they are the driving force of the kenyan economy
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Old 21st May 2012, 15:41   #16 (permalink)
 
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Actually , I think you might find that DEC are also expected to do this ' nonsense ' as you call it , which should keep most expats of any age or experience out . I hear that the interview is also conducted by 3 people including KQ Captains , so that should do the trick of keeping any interlopers out ? Job done ----again.
DEC may be needed , but never wanted .
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Old 22nd May 2012, 12:45   #17 (permalink)
 
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hey, please kindly if you don't mind, post the questions that you will go through on the 23rd May, 2012 for the KQ aptitude exam.
It will help guys get ready for the next scheduled interview..

Thank you!
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Old 22nd May 2012, 16:29   #18 (permalink)
 
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Flight test

Well, as of last year, KQ began using the 737 simulator at pride centre to conduct the flight test stage of the interview process. Has left many with very interesting views about that....and yes you will also go through single engine on the sim...
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for everybody taking the aptitude test tomorrow, all the best!
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Old 23rd May 2012, 17:50   #20 (permalink)
 
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what a day?!

2 words people: TIME MANAGEMENT! this is absolutely key to passing those tests. just for clarity, it is actually 6 papers that you will be sitting for with a 10minute break inbetween. yes SIX separate test. that was a rather unpleasant surprise today, but for the most part the summary of the topics above was spot on. pulleys was another favourite topic.

words of wisdom:
- in the maths papers, time is absolutely critical. no calculators allowed and plenty of questions on algebra and also time, distance and speed (a whole section!)

- if you feel like you are spending too much time on one question, skip the question. if you guess and answer and get it wrong, they subtract a mark from your total for each wrong answer. this isnt true for all the papers though. only for maths and mechanical reasoning.

- they will not give you rough paper for the paper on general science. be prepared to do plenty of mental math.

otherwise, to everybody attempting tomorrow..all the best!
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