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Old 24th March 2012 | 17:36
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mad_jock
 
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Not really just the same entrenched level as a mil controller who believes there arn't issues at some units.


The charging for the AIP is really taking the piss. And gives a very negative front to the mil ATC group.

BTW by far the biggest critics out there of the service are the civi ATCO's who are pilots. These game keepers turned poachers are the ones that really give the mil units a hard time. I would never be as brutal as they are. Especially if its a unit which they have to work with. They know extactly where to put an aircraft to cause maximum annoyance to the unit.

You next biggest critics are your own pilots both current and retired. They are actually the biggest advocates of giving a unit the "hey ho going on route" if they give you any sort of embuggeration.

I am just of the opinion that when talking to a unit if it stops providing you with a service and increases your work load or exposes you to clearances in class G you bin them. Obviously some units get it that aircraft talking to them is a two way thing, you give and you receive the benefits.

I am more than happy that you are working at a unit that I am praising. Not that it will do much good but try and feed back that the availability of the mil AIP or even a reduced GA information pack would promote co-operation and help mil/civi relations.

And getting rid of this multiple QFE's bollocks and using Mil lingo on the RT wouldn't go amiss either. eg report checks complete and other such !!!!e. You ask the duty pilot what checks they are on about cause the checks will only be complete at 500-1000ft not 15 miles out. Just say yes to keep them happy was the reply.

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