AirRabbit;
Originally Posted by AirRabbit
there have always been airplane accidents ... what indicators exist that would prompt anyone to believe that there is a precipitous decline in safety, or what would you say are the indicators or concerns that there is any decline is safety ... and then following that ... why would anyone presume that if a decline in safety does exist, the decline is tied to the salaries of the pilots?
I intend no disrespect nor rudeness here, but you are not a flight safety specialist nor are you an experienced airline pilot and are therefore not qualified to make such statements. Neither does reading government reports on the industry provide a complete picture.
The arguments expressed in this and other threads by those who either are flight safety specialists or airline pilots or both, recognize the complexity of these factors; these arguments do not adhere to or rely upon a mechanical model of causality and trending. Your arguments thus far "read" as typical arguments presented by accountants and managers who deal in financial concepts and priorities or by those who are organizationally a long distance from the daily operation and who haven't spent time in or had any contact with flight safety work.
All of these issues have been discussed at length in PPRuNe by many; they are not in doubt, but nor are they claiming that all is falling apart around us. That is not the nature of safety work. Flight safety work today is, or ought to be, preventative - we have the tools and the mandate through SMS. Such tools, training and experience reveal clear trends in the character of accidents and are expressing concerns as any early-warning system might. The nature and requirements of risk perception and management has changed dramatically just as the industry and airline piloting profession itself have changed.
Dismissing these changes with a wave-off statement like, "
there have always been airplane accidents ... what indicators exist that would prompt anyone to believe that there is a precipitous decline in safety, or what would you say are the indicators or concerns that there is any decline is safety" tells me that you don't understand flight safety work and don't understand what is being said. The people who are watching this industry and who are in the cockpits daily, know. That is what this discussion is about.
Regards,
PJ2