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Old 18th Apr 2011, 11:05   #21 (permalink)
 
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Wink Linton pilot course

Hi Jonesey, et al,

The names of the RAAF pilots does not seem to match my recollections and images nor my logbook.

I certainly rember the UK pilots and the instructors and the Singaporeans (poor buggers they froze even more than I did).

I was on No 5 Pilots course at Linton but as best I can recall Tony Dekievit and Egon Fice both RAFF students who went to the UK with me did their training at Leeming. As did three other RAAF blokes, Al Titheridge, Doug Graham and Graham Thomas.

Sadly Graham was killed in a Caribou crash in PNG not long after his retrun to Australia.

Tony went on to fly Caribou, not sure where Egon went. Al went to fighters and became DCAS, Graham and myself went on to choppers and served in Vietnam. I also served in the Middle East.

Linton was fantastic indeed all of my UK training was just that except for the freezing cold weather. We all went to RAF Valley on the Gnats after our basic flying training.

I believe other RAAF students preceeded us but can't confim this though some of the Poms who were on earlier courses at Linton or Leeming may be able to do so. I would be interested to hear if this is so.

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Old 19th Apr 2011, 09:00   #22 (permalink)
 
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There were three RAAF students on No 6 Course at Linton - Paul Devine, Bruce Hardwick, and another Paul (I think), but I'm struggling to remember his surname.

I believe all three went to Valley, and that Paul Devine flew Mirages back in Oz.
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Now that you mention it I do recall Paul Devine ho did go on to Mirages at Williamtown and the other was Bruce Hartwich but I too cannot remember the third bloke. I must be getting old!
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Was Ken Llewelyn there as well? He was chopped from JP's at some point - now a reserve officer in the DoD
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Can't recall Kens name and certainly not on No. 5 Course.

As I rack my brain I have a vague recollection of an Ian Gonsal also a RAAF student being in the UK and I suspect he might been another RAAF'y on No. 6 Course. He subsequently went on to become a test pilot in the RAAF.

My diary entry for March 05 1970 indicates that our friendly (?) couth and culture instructor at Linton in his final debrief on my officer qualities stated he did not consider that I or any of the 5 (Five) Australians (RAAF) at Linton were capable of acting in an officer like manner and for that I was marked accordingly! Since I was one of the five Aussies the others must have been Paul Devine and Bruce Hartwich from No.6 Course plus two more on No. 6 Course. Who these RAAF students were remains a mystery I am wanting to solve.

I suspect that my association with 'Henders' who was a top bloke but prone to partying, did not help my cause but we had fun.
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I also don't recall Ken Llewelyn at Linton, and definitely not on 6 Course.

But Ian Gonsal was the guy whose name I was struggling to remember - thank you! He was the third RAAF student, along with Paul D and Bruce H, on 6 Course. All top blokes.

I had to smile at your reference to the "GSTO" (General Service Training Officer ?) and his OQ comments. Paul Devine seemed to do OK, as I believe he subsequently became an Air Commodore.
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Old 21st Apr 2011, 11:54   #27 (permalink)
 
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Paul D did do well as did Al T who went to Leeming. Al became an AVM and DCAS before retiring so he should be happy.

Though I can't recall the names my diary which I diligently kept each day for my entire time in the UK records five Aussies at Linton whilst I was there but I really cannot tink who the fifth was though I am truing to locate Paul and Ian who I am sure will be able to fill in the gaps.

I must state that the staff were brilliant and the entire course. Ahh! Our esteemed GSTO officer better recorded in my diary as 'Clump'. I guess he was doing his job and we were being youthful. Just that we did not see eye to eye.
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Old 21st Apr 2011, 15:54   #28 (permalink)
 
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Egon Fice aka "Egg n Chips" was flying Neptunes in Townsville when I was the Pommie exchange pilot in '72. We were on detachment to NAS Nowra when his posting notice came through - to Mirages! He had, after all, completed the Gnat course.

We had a Squadron Dinner in our hotel, with Egon sitting next to the Boss, Bob Holland, and I arranged with the staff for Egon to be served last. His main course arrived, shielded by one of those huge hemispherical plate covers. The waiter placed the plate in front of Egon, and with a suitable flourish, raised the cover to reveal a plate of Jelly Beans! (It was a standing joke that the only flying rations that Knucleheads could carry in a Mirage was a packet of Jelly Beans.)
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Anyone that flew a Neptune had to have a death wish. They were almost as bad as the Shackleton Poor buggers!

Training on the Gnat or undertaking what the Poms called the Fast Jet Course did not do me much good. I went from scorching around the valleys of Wales at 480 knots (or thereabouts cos I was student then) to flying Iroquois at zot feet at 90 knots. The only commonality was that they each had a single jet engine plus I suppose a joystick.

Nonetheless both were brilliant fun to fly and from my experience both crash landed well, I Cat 4'ed one of each.
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 09:06   #30 (permalink)
 
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ozzie - pse check your PM's
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 15:42   #31 (permalink)
 
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Anyone that flew a Neptune had to have a death wish. They were almost as bad as the Shackleton Poor buggers!
I almost take exception to that.

Whilst flying from Townsville to Darwin in our trusty Shack, Don W (the captain) commented along the lines of 'thank god for 4 engines and not two like the Neptune' as he showed us where he had parked a Neptune in the outback during his Australian exchange.

We also had three or four Australian exchange guys at Acklington on 6 FTS (67-68) - at least two went on to Mirages and I believe quite high rank.
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Tis a long way from Linton to Oz and the countries are often worlds apart so you can imagine how confused I was when the RAF called their bases 'stations' yet I knew a station as a sheep or cattle property out west or somewhere for a train to pull up in. And as for our alps, I have yet to find any in Australia, certainly not on the Darwin Townsville run. I think even the Pennines are taller than our 'mountains'!

to COJONES a couple of more stoodes from No 5 Course at Linton were James (Singapore - he suffered hypothermia badly near Gunnerside during a survival exercise and had to be evacuated), Andy Dudley-Smith. Pete Bailey,

I recal a BN coming into Darwin on a ferry flight with fuel shortage en-route to PNG from Indonesia but diverting due to fuel shortage. I was the SAR pilot and had to go on standby in case the pilot ditched. Around mid-70's from memory.
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Bruce Hartwich was an instructor at 1FTS Point Cook when I went through in 1979.

Sadly, he was killed in a grain silo accident in December 2007.
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Old 25th Apr 2011, 17:33   #34 (permalink)
 
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Leeming was "Instant Chop."
We probably just weren't as good as the Linton boys
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Old 2nd May 2011, 11:19   #35 (permalink)
 
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That's not good news about Bruce though having farmed after leaving the RAAF I can understand how these do happen.
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Yep checked and replied tonight
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Old 18th May 2011, 20:53   #38 (permalink)
 
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Ozzieone,

Just had one of those recollection moments, and I now think you were right about there being a fourth RAAF pilot on No 6 Course. Possibly a little older than Paul, Ian and Bruce, but again I'm struggling to remember his name. John ......? I think he was married, and had previously been a quantity surveyor (or something similar) in civvy street. Any help?
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Kindler???
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John Simmonds ?

Not Kindler, that I recall. But possibly John Simmonds?
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