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Old 30th Jan 2008, 11:34
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Flight Deck Security

Why would an airline captain publish photos of his passport, pilots licence FAA medical certificate, company ID and various documents on a photo sharing website?

The FAA medical certificate is dated March 07 so I guess this is still valid?

Surely this must be in breach of all sorts of regulations - some of the documents are not current but surely the risks of publishing such documents on the internet are clear.

If someone from an appropriate authority or a PPRuNe MOD would like to contact me here, I can give the hyperlinks to have this information removed immediately!

Within the terms of the UK Terrorism Act, this is "information which could be of use to terrorists"
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 12:10
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Which part of the First Amendment do you not understand? Your acceptance of the British Government's appalling restriction of rights and information are getting to you.

Chill out and go and live in a free country.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 12:38
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At the very least the idiot has set himself up for identity theft since all the documents are downloadable.

I just wonder what makes a serving captain want to publish his ID pass or is he daft enough not to realise the potential consequences.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 12:40
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Monty, as they say in your part of the world "Calm down, calm down. Eh! Eh! Eh!".

Do you honestly think that any well resourced criminal or terrorist organisation would find it particularly difficult to obtain the necessary information to forge any of the documents you have listed? Don't forget that they can obtain an original through any of their nefarious means and then forge away. What is more likely is for an individual of dubious background to use them for criminal purposes, including identity theft.

Whilst it is a very vain pilot who has a need to publish copies of his ID and licence on the internet and is probably a sign of some serious social deficiencies, I doubt very much if it is a breach of any "regulations" to actually publish them. He's just an idiot if doesn't realise the implications. If I'm wrong, then so be it, but as 'moosp' points out, it may just be a throw-back to our own British governments insidious dulling of our own civil liberties and the much more tortuous way we have to obtain our freedom of information.

As for the PPRuNe moderators being able to do anything about it, what powers do you think they have that you don't? Why not just publish the links anyway for all and sundry to be able to point out the deficiencies of the pilot concerned? We may as well have a laugh at someone else's expense whilst those with a sense of humour deficiency can harp on about the seriousness of the security implications.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 13:14
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Good Point!

Cargo Boy - I actually agree with what you say. My main point is why would someone as senior as a capatain do something so basically silly!

Having been directly affected by 9/11, perhaps I am sensitive to security issues but I would hate to see this guy's ID used to get past airport security and lead to another 9/11 type scenario! I bet the FBI in Florida now take a keener interest in who is attending the flying schools!

The link is deleted by moderators......
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 13:27
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In my opinion it does seem quite foolish to publish such personal items on the internet, as mentioned identity theft would be the main reason.

As also mentioned though, I agree if some undesirable was intent enough on obtaining the documents this might make it a little easier to forge, but if would not be impossible without them, they would find a way!!

Moosp;

First Amendment??

First Amendment to what, never heard of it!!!
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 14:08
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Thumbs down

Monty mate, get a life !
Go and worry about something that actually needs to be worried about.

The guy in question looks like a complete muppet - you could probably be good friends
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 14:09
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What's the bet that at least 5 credit card applications have been made already in this guys name!

Does anyone else sense a need for self congratulation by this individual? I'll await for the analysis of those PPRuNers with degrees in psychology or psychiatry. In the meantime I'll try and contact Amir and let him know that discretion is the better part of valour.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 14:46
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I believe Jeremy Clarkson, BBC's Top Gear presenter and newspaper columnist, recently ridiculed the risk of identity theft and published his bank details in a Sunday newspaper column. He subsequently found an expensive direct debit had been taken out in his name!
The other issue here, the security risk, would seem to have some validity but as others have pointed out, I guess if the terrorist want to find a way, they will.... Having said that, one can say that about any of our security measures. Explosive baby milk, anyone?
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 14:53
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Extremely interesting........

Considering that this person never checked out to fly the E170 as a Captain whilst in Saudi Arabia, how did he convince the Indian DGCA that he was qualified to be an instructor?

Also considering that his Saudi ATP is only valid whilst flying for Saudia, how was this used to gain his Indian validation?


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Old 30th Jan 2008, 16:42
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Which part of the First Amendment do you not understand? Your acceptance of the British Government's appalling restriction of rights and information are getting to you.

Chill out and go and live in a free country.


wot he said.

chill.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 17:41
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 18:27
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Things like licenses and certificates are made to be displayed ... if we weren't allowed to show them to anybody then we'd just have to take everybody's word for it that they have one.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 20:15
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The only potential threat is that taxpayers dollars will be spent hunting down those who took the bait for the identity theft. No need to be paranoid Monty.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 20:36
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Ok I admit it i'm sorry, I told a little white one, but I was only saying it to illustrate a point that maybe nobody has picked up on.

Can anyone explain to me why the First Amendment to the United States Constitution is being referenced several times in this discussion.

If this were a guy in the US, of course it would be relevant, but he is not. Even if the posters were American, which I am assuming they are not by their locations, one might expect some ignorance. I saw the link before it was removed and although there is an FAA license included I feel that has no relevance either (Just wanted to cover the bases here)

What I am asking is why people from countries outside the US believe that the US Constitution has any bearing whatsoever in this matter. Last time I checked I cannot commit a federal offence by copying my licence and handing it personally to my someone in my town!

Maybe I am wrong, and if someone knows more please enlighten me!

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Old 31st Jan 2008, 11:42
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Chill out and go and live in a free country.
I was rather amused by this comment posted from Hong Kong of all places....
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 12:08
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"information which could be of use to terrorists"
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